AJB live commentary on CASINO ROYALE 06

HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
edited June 2020 in Off Topic Chat
Time for another group-viewing, this time, it‘s

CASINO ROYALE




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London Summertime: 20:00
Paris Summertime: 21:00
New York local time 15:00
LA local time 12:00



PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE ALL STARTING 10 MINUTES LATER !

The 19:00 deadline is set so that everybody has enough time to find their DVDs/Blu Rays, boot their players and get done with the menus and pause right where usually the gunbarrel would begin.

WE ARE STARTING PRECISELY AT 19:10


- Please make sure that everybody has their BluRay/DVD/VCR ready and start the player latest 19:00 GMT to get done with all the dodgy menus.
- PAUSE YOUR PLAYER RIGHT WHERE IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS JAMES BOND THE GUNBARREL REALLY SHOULD BE
- HIT PLAY PRECISELY AT 19:10.

I‘ll post some timecodes during the thread just in case that somebody has messed it up
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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,631MI6 Agent
    I am so looking forward to seeing David Niven, Woody Allen and Peter Sellers again!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Gymkata wrote:
    I'll come armed with plenty of Eva Green gifs.

    Oh yes.

    Great!
    I could imagine some ‚excitement‘ building up with Barbel :D
    Or his friend :v
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,774MI6 Agent
    Hooray! My fav Bond film.

    I'll be there.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    Eva Green is a lovely woman ….
    Eva Green is a lovely woman …
    Eva Green ….


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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    Gymkata wrote:
    I'll come armed with plenty of Eva Green gifs.

    Oh yes.

    Great!
    I could imagine some ‚excitement‘ building up with Barbel :D
    Or his friend :v

    Hey at my age I'm glad to still enjoy looking! :007)
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    I thought, that in your age, you are happy about anything building up anywhere :)) :))
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    edited June 2020
    I know how Roger Moore would have reacted to Eva: :007)

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  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,965MI6 Agent
    Seeing these gifs reminds me that she really was perfect casting as Fleming's Vesper, even by looks alone.
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Gymkata wrote:

    She's a very pretty woman, that's for sure. It must also be said, she looks amazing in black and white. SIN CITY: A DAME TO KILL FOR is not a good movie but she's outstanding in it (and you see...ahem...a lot of her).

    I believe they had to change the advertising for that very reason.
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Controversial opinion but I really don’t get the appeal of Green—it looks like she turned up to set for the day of shooting and was only then briefly told how to act as well as be sexy/seductive {:)
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,774MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    Controversial opinion but I really don’t get the appeal of Green—it looks like she turned up to set for the day of shooting and was only then briefly told how to act as well as be sexy/seductive {:)

    JTM, with due respect - There is something wrong with You! :))

    Lets just say, it takes a truly exceptional woman to stir my curiosity and Ms Green is a perfect example.
    I saw CR-06 at the cinema seven times in the end, and she was def a contributing factor to that.

    I think although she looks sexy, sultry and enigmatic, she is a self professed shy geek,
    and one with a deliciously naughty playful sense of humour. Look at the gif of her in the red blouse with white buttons.
    - Thank You Gymkata by the way...
    Her eyes sparkle with a naughty energetic sense of fun to rival Jill St John or Dame Judi herself.
    Vesper is a broken character, as denoted in the film. - By contrast Ms Green is playful entertaining and funny.
    Although she joins the film almost halfway through she is a shining spark of vitality, grace and nuance from
    start to finish.

    Its such a damned shame she is a smoker. :#
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    edited June 2020
    JTM wrote:
    Controversial opinion but I really don’t get the appeal of Green—it looks like she turned up to set for the day of shooting and was only then briefly told how to act as well as be sexy/seductive {:)

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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    I have to admit it took me a couple of viewings to warm up to Green. At first I found her Vesper cold and unsympathetic, but then I realized the subtleties of her performance that had eluded me and became a fan. She's a good actor and it doesn't hurt that she's drop dead gorgeous.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    I wish you a swift recovery with your severe eyesight problems, JTM :p


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  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    I’m certainly not saying she’s not attractive—she actually looks shockingly similar to an ex of mine...which makes rewatching CR and other films she’s in, well, a little weird—I just think she’s quite wooden in her acting and overall screen presence. I guess that might just her “thing” though.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    Has anyone here ever before seen or heard of someone calling Eva Green's acting "wooden" before?
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,701MI6 Agent
    I'm sure you're aware, JTM, that freedom of speech is incredibly imortant and a cornerstone of democracy ...... except when it comes to celebrities and James Bond fandom :D
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Yes we sure are a emphatic bunch when it comes to our little interest :)) My opinion on a certain actress definitely doesn’t affect my opinion on the film though—CR is still at or near the top of my “list”.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,965MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I know how Roger Moore would have reacted eva_green_13.gif

    And Eva would have made a great Stephanie Broadchest in a 70s Moore Bond film :)
    Critics and material I don't need. I haven't changed my act in 53 years.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Shady Tree wrote:
    Seeing these gifs reminds me that she really was perfect casting as Fleming's Vesper, even by looks alone.

    I still think she was miscast to be honest: i don't think she's great at the repartee stuff. Craig is being sparkling but she's like a rock when it should be bouncing back and forth a bit. And also, I don't care hugely about the nationality stuff (we've had an Irish Bond and a Canadian Moneypenny of course) but I do find her a little hard to buy as a British Treasury officer.
    I also don't get why she seems to always empty her lungs just before she starts speaking :)
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    edited June 2020
    JTM wrote:
    Controversial opinion but I really don’t get the appeal of Green—it looks like she turned up to set for the day of shooting and was only then briefly told how to act as well as be sexy/seductive {:)

    You are not alone, JTM.
    Green does not much for me - the only time that she looks really stunning is in the shower scenes imo.
    Caterina Murino on the other hand is everything that you can wish from a woman.
    She is gorgeous, sexy, cute and just amazing.

    And btw, as much as I like CR as a whole, I truely hate* the „you took my armour off“ talk.
    Annoying as hell and totally unconvincingly played by both of them.

    Maybe Gymkata can find some nice Caterina Murino .gifs just to balance things out

    * on a „Oh no - he‘s weeping again“ Level
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    I'm with Higgins on disliking the "armour" dialogue.
    However (and here we go) on the subject of miscasting I don't think it's Green that was miscast in this film.
    As a lifelong fan of the book, I was thrilled to see it onscreen, more or less accurately (2nd half anyway). The book's characters (Vesper, Le Chiffre, Mathis, Leiter, M) all present and correct, some necessary updating, Fleming highlights and incidents rendered or interpreted. After all those years to see CR done right.
    It was enough to make the film an instant favourite, even though....
    I do not like Craig as Bond. Never have, never will. It doesn't stop me enjoying his Bond movies (I'm not Higgins) but to me he is not James Bond and is the weakest part of CR06.
    It's been many years now, and I do understand that I hold a minority view. Still, I won't be watching on Friday pointing this out at every opportunity (did I mention that I'm not Higgins?).
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    I do not like Craig as Bond. Never have, never will. It doesn't stop me enjoying his Bond movies (I'm not Higgins) but to me he is not James Bond and is the weakest part of CR06.
    It's been many years now, and I do understand that I hold a minority view. Still, I won't be watching on Friday pointing this out at every opportunity (did I mention that I'm not Higgins?).

    Oh, I very much enjoy Craig‘s Bonds.
    Actually all of them with a preference for CR ;)
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    Like Gymkata says, it'd be a boring world if we all liked the same things.
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,418Quartermasters
    I'm looking forward to going back to Casino Royale - I think it's been a couple of years since my last viewing of it. It sits in the #2 spot on my Bond ranking just behind FRWL...I doubt that will change, but at this point I'm not quite sure where I'd place Craig in a ranking of Bond actors. When CR first came out I was certainly quite enamoured with Craig's portrayal and I think I ranked him second only to Connery. 14 years later he might have slipped down a place or two, but I'm not sure yet who would go above him. Possibly Dalton, and I think my appreciation for Moore has grown a bit in recent years.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    edited June 2020
    Barbel wrote:
    I'm with Higgins on disliking the "armour" dialogue.
    However (and here we go) on the subject of miscasting I don't think it's Green that was miscast in this film.
    As a lifelong fan of the book, I was thrilled to see it onscreen, more or less accurately (2nd half anyway). The book's characters (Vesper, Le Chiffre, Mathis, Leiter, M) all present and correct, some necessary updating, Fleming highlights and incidents rendered or interpreted. After all those years to see CR done right.
    It was enough to make the film an instant favourite, even though....
    I do not like Craig as Bond. Never have, never will. It doesn't stop me enjoying his Bond movies (I'm not Higgins) but to me he is not James Bond and is the weakest part of CR06.
    It's been many years now, and I do understand that I hold a minority view. Still, I won't be watching on Friday pointing this out at every opportunity (did I mention that I'm not Higgins?).


    He's not Fleming's Bond, no, but to be honest I find him more interesting. And he represents the flavour of those novels if not the exact character represented in them, far more so than Brosnan for example.
    He's perfectly cast for that script, whereas I'd say Green isn't.

    The moment when he crashes the Germans' Range Rover in the car park feels like the golden age of Bond coming back, and with a twist. I can't even imagine Dalton's Bond pulling that off with that much swagger- he'd be looking furtive and nervous.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Golrush007 wrote:
    I'm looking forward to going back to Casino Royale - I think it's been a couple of years since my last viewing of it. It sits in the #2 spot on my Bond ranking just behind FRWL...I doubt that will change, but at this point I'm not quite sure where I'd place Craig in a ranking of Bond actors. When CR first came out I was certainly quite enamoured with Craig's portrayal and I think I ranked him second only to Connery. 14 years later he might have slipped down a place or two, but I'm not sure yet who would go above him. Possibly Dalton, and I think my appreciation for Moore has grown a bit in recent years.

    I think it's Craig and Connery at the top as the best, to be honest. But Roger is perhaps my favourite :)
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,053Chief of Staff
    emtiem wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    I'm with Higgins on disliking the "armour" dialogue.
    However (and here we go) on the subject of miscasting I don't think it's Green that was miscast in this film.
    As a lifelong fan of the book, I was thrilled to see it onscreen, more or less accurately (2nd half anyway). The book's characters (Vesper, Le Chiffre, Mathis, Leiter, M) all present and correct, some necessary updating, Fleming highlights and incidents rendered or interpreted. After all those years to see CR done right.
    It was enough to make the film an instant favourite, even though....
    I do not like Craig as Bond. Never have, never will. It doesn't stop me enjoying his Bond movies (I'm not Higgins) but to me he is not James Bond and is the weakest part of CR06.
    It's been many years now, and I do understand that I hold a minority view. Still, I won't be watching on Friday pointing this out at every opportunity (did I mention that I'm not Higgins?).


    He's not Fleming's Bond, no, but to be honest I find him more interesting. And he represents the flavour of those novels if not the exact character represented in them, far more so than Brosnan for example.
    He's perfectly cast for that script, whereas I'd say Green isn't.

    That's a fair point of view. I don't see it that way, but I see where you're coming from.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,686MI6 Agent
    Actually, thinking again, it's probably not true of me to say he's perfectly cast for that script because he's a little bit too old! I think you can tell that ideally he would have maybe nearly ten years younger for the story they're telling. But he is the right type for it.

    I suspect they really wanted Cavill (then 23) to work out for it, but Craig was just better.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,618MI6 Agent
    Gymkata, please check your pms
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