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question for historian Number24:

Would the Japanese consulate in New York have been closed after Pearl Harbour?
Because if it was, that would limit when Bond could have made his first kill.

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It was supposedly based on a real event, though more of an exercise set up by Bill Stephenson, than a full-blown assassination. This came up up earlier. Clearly, Fleming kept it in mind when he was writing. What I've found strange is Fleming would have been very aware of the stories surrounding his 30 AU men from their written and verbal reports, yet he ignored the majority of this reports, probably because of the Official Secrets Act, though there were ways around it.

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caractacus potts wrote:

question for historian Number24:

Would the Japanese consulate in New York have been closed after Pearl Harbour?
Because if it was, that would limit when Bond could have made his first kill.

Wikipedia says the Japanese consulate was closed after the attack on Pearl Harbour. That's all the information I have.

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B19 wrote:

It was supposedly based on a real event, though more of an exercise set up by Bill Stephenson, than a full-blown assassination. This came up up earlier.

yup. that was me who brought it up earlier, in post 9, i think I read that story in Pearson's Fleming biography.
My question was kind of offtopic, but I asked it here because I trust No24 as my History expert. And the news yesterday that the Chinese consulate in Houston was forcibly closed reminded me.


My off-topic interest is just me overthinking the Bond timeline once again.
Later volumes tell us Bond was promoted to Double-O in 1950, that seems like a long wait after those two kills. And the obit in YOLT tells us Bond joined the Service in 1941 at the age of 17, I doubt the first job they'd give a teenage newbie would be an assassination at a foreign consulate.

As he went along, Fleming would revise both Bond's age and the year he joined the Secret Service, but he never mentioned those first two kills again. The timing of the first kill doesn't make any sense within the revised dates of the YOLT obit, but it didn't really make sense in CR in the first place.