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Yes,  that poll is completely objective and has no agenda at all....

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Number24 wrote:

Yes,  that poll is completely objective and has no agenda at all....

You can say that about all polls.

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Not really.  The poll above words questions to put one option in a positive light and the other in a negative light.  There are more subtile ways of pushing your agenda in polls,  this is a very crude one.  Most polls are neutral.

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You can still vote how you wish.  Views won't be changed by the wording unless you are weak willed, and if the wording suggests one thing, those not agreeing with it should vote vehemently the other way surely.

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I see I'm in the majority  of the voting   ajb007/biggrin

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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The irony is, this poll was posted by a feminist to outrage other feminists and get them to pass the word on and get bigger votes FOR a female Doctor.  It seems to have backfired  ajb007/rolleyes

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People are influenced by how a poll is worked and presented,  that's a fact. If you react to how it's worded and vote in protest to that is,  you are still influenced. A professionals and objective would look more like this:

How do you feel about a female Doctor?

a)  I'm against it.

b) I support it.

c) No opinion/ I don't know.

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Number24 wrote:

People are influenced by how a poll is worked and presented,  that's a fact. If you react to how it's worded and vote in protest to that is,  you are still influenced. A professionals and objective would look more like this:

How do you feel about a female Doctor?

a)  I'm against it.

b) I support it.

c) No opinion/ I don't know.

Exactly.  This is worded to be against a female Doctor by a feminist wishing to enrage those for it and gain more votes.  Like I said... interesting.

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Women !  What are they like! Eh ?  ajb007/biggrin

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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Goobers.... and Higgins.

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Asp9mm wrote:
Number24 wrote:

People are influenced by how a poll is worked and presented,  that's a fact. If you react to how it's worded and vote in protest to that is,  you are still influenced. A professionals and objective would look more like this:

How do you feel about a female Doctor?

a)  I'm against it.

b) I support it.

c) No opinion/ I don't know.

Exactly.  This is worded to be against a female Doctor by a feminist wishing to enrage those for it and gain more votes.  Like I said... interesting.

Yes,  interesting.

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http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-07- … t-blubbing
An unexpected event left both Drs . Close to  tears.

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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http://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/celeb … o-11029204
Bradley Walsh  to be the new Doctor's  first companion.

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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I presume this is the thread to discuss classic Doctor Who, too? I did do a search...


I recently watched The Daleks/Edge of Destruction, William Hartnell's second and third serials
I've seen The Daleks before, as well as The Unearthly Child, but Edge of Destruction was new to me
a quick two episode filler, it is set entirely on the Tardis set and only features the four main actors
thus it is the first time we get a really good look at the Tardis's interior and learn a bit more about how it works
we also get to see more of Hartnell's acting, he seemd to have the least dialog of the four in the previous episodes even though it's his show: he notably messes up several lines, I wonder if that's why they usually gave him less dialog? I also wonder why they didn't just do more retakes and edits if the main actor had memory issues, these early shows look like they were filmed live-in-the-studio
the Doctor and his guests work their issues out in this story, there'd been mutual distrust in the first two serials with the Doctor being originally almost a villainous character, and things get heated
plotwise it doesn't make complete sense, but no less so than most of Moffatt's very clever plots ... we do learn more about the Tardis as a result, and best of all, the key button on the dashboard is labelled in sloppy felt-tip marker! we don't see enough sloppy felt-tip marker labels in the new episodes

bonus feature on the disc is an edited reconstruction of the completely lost fourth serial Marc Polo, using dialog and screenshots to re-tell the 7 part episode within half an hour. As a geography major and history buff, I find Marco Polo inherently fascinating, as important to European knowledge of the outside world as Columbus would be centuries later, and thus a good subject for a science fiction series that was supposedly focused on teaching children history. I wonder why this serial hasn't been properly reconstructed as an animation yet?
Also I wonder why the Doctor didn't use the Tardis (his flying caravan) to return Marco Polo to Venice, as the character kept saying he wanted to do? perhaps that was covered in the three hours of dialog not included in the condensation? probably because we've just seen in each previous serial the Doctor can't really control where the Tardis takes him


also:
I'm skimming through a book called The Doctors Who's Who (Craig Cabell, 2010). Its mostly capsule biographies of the actors who played the first eleven Doctors. But in the intro, the author mentions a first draft of The Unearthly Child where we actually learned where The Doctor and Susan came from, and the nature of their relationship. Suzanne (not Susan) was the character's earth name, the Doctor personally calls her Findoclare and says "Findoclare would rule, Findoclare would be Queen in a world greater than your minds could dream of, but her people are enslaved by Paladin hordes". The Doctor rescued her when she was a baby, and has been keeping her hidden from her enemies here on Earth. She just calls him Grandfather, as part of her cover-story and out of affection and gratitude. The show's creator Sydney Newman preferred the Doctor's origins be completely mysterious, so the backstory was written out and forgotten about until something completely different was explained seven years later (and Susan locked out on a Dalek-infested future earth and never mentioned again).

I tried doing a Google search for the name Findoclare and got nothing. You'd think with all the Doctor Who content online there'd be discussion of this first draft, so maybe its been discredited?

EDIT: Cabell spelt it wrong. Findooclare, with two O's, produces results

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Netflix now has series 9 of Dr Who  ajb007/martini  and I did laugh at one episode where the Dr had to give Davros a bit if his
Regeneration energy, saying it might cost him a hand or a leg in a future regeneration. As I laughed my daughter
( Who's a big Who fan ) asked what's so funny. To which I replied, well it did lead to him losing his penis ! After all
He regenerates as a Woman ! .............. Then she started laughing.  ajb007/biggrin

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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If any of you have just watched the Dr Who Christmas special and wondered what the hell was that about? google "The Angel of Mons" and it may give you a bit of background as to what the translucent glass being was supposed to represent? The actual apparition originally appeared during August 1914  ajb007/martini
Two highlights in my opinion, the brief reappearance of Clara "Boing" Oswald & the TARDIS gobbing out its new peroxide pilot!  ajb007/biggrin

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I think the Angel of Mons reference being used as a throwaway gizmo in a trivial programme for Moffats own ends is utterly disgusting, despicable and sick.  It rapes and trivialises the very memories of brave men that suffered much.

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I enjoyed it,  I loved P Capaldi as the Doctor, Sad to see him go.  As for the new .......
......as Lulu might sing "  We Shall See !!"  ajb007/wink

Although my Daughter a young twenty year old, I'm guessing the new Doctor is supposed to
Appeal to, has said she's done with Dr Who now and will not be watching any more .

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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I said the same thing when the news broke in 2006 that Mr Craig was the new James Bond.
CR-06 would get seven outings at the cinema out of me, and today, it is still my outright favorite Bond film.

With the Doctor (esp now Moffat is gone) anything is possible.
But I too, will miss Mr Capaldi.
Its criminal he was never given the quality of material he deserved.

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ajb007/lol She seems very determined. I even got a rant from her, On all the strong
Female characters Dr Who has always had, and says this is all crazy " politically
Correct " cobblers !  ajb007/biggrin

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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Thunderpussy wrote:

ajb007/lol She seems very determined. I even got a rant from her, On all the strong
Female characters Dr Who has always had, and says this is all crazy " politically
Correct " cobblers !  ajb007/biggrin

The Doctor has always had strong female characters pushing him on the straight and narrow.  If the roles are now reversed, then that's not a very strong position for the female Doctor.  Unless they make the male characters dunderheads.  Which I guess will be the case.  Not very politically correct is it.

I have no interest in a female Doctor WHO, because he isn't female.  James Bond isn't either and neither is Sherlock Holmes or Robin Hood.  If they brought Romana back and gave her a spinoff series then that would be cool, but changing a male character to female to make it politic is just lazy and a bit stupid.  Do something new and leave the original character alone.  It's worked for Star Wars.  Let's make Lassie a cat, and Wonder Woman a bloke  ajb007/rolleyes

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Just saw it, and I enjoyed it. . .I like the way the first Doctor is still in the early 1960s, with his un-PC ideas and words, and a tear came to my eye when the WWI Brits and Krauts began singing carols.  As for the first female Doctor, I'll give her a chance.  I gave a certain Daniel Craig one, and I'm happy about that!

Vox clamantis in deserto

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I thought Capaldi was great in the episode (He's always fantastic) but the episode was a bit average for me.
Nice idea having the 1st Doctor back but felt a bit heavy handed (smack-Bottom etc), I get it, Moffat you are #woke and all that, doesn't mean you have shove the leftist propaganda down our throat so much, but I digress...
That being said, the best part of the episode for me, was the 12th's final speech and 13th's entrance, I am part of the wait and see crowd but I loved her first few seconds on the screen so far and the decision to keep her Yorkshire accent

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I too am happy to give her a chance, but Capaldi is a hard act to follow.

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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I haven't seen DW for a number of years - I originally stopped watching after the Hartnell/Troughton series but i did pick up again for Eccleston/Tennant but stopped again when Smith took over who was bloody awful.

But I enjoyed this episode and David Bradley was marvellous as Hartnell - quite an extraordinary resemblance and he had the character  down to a T. However a woman as DW is a big no-no and just another sop to the PC brigade. Interestingly, like TP's daughter, my 11 year old granddaughter who loves DW also says she now has no interest in the new Doctor and won't be watching.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.