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For a long time I've thought there should be a special thread for  BL and the
Other " Classic"  fans, who could reminisce about life, the universe,  stuff like
That !           
Then it would keep them off the others for the young dudes like me !  ajb007/lol

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Came across this Daily Mail interview with Ian Ogilvy (published on 21st November 2014) that you may not be aware of. The interview was to promote his new film We Still Kill The Old Way, in which he plays a retired English gangster. But a number of other things are commented on, including the break up of his first marriage, his relationships with other women, his drinking problem. Of more relevance to us at AJB, he comments on James Bond and The Saint.

On Bond: "The head of publicity told me, 'If we wanted another Roger Moore type, you'd be it, but we want another Sean Connery' and that's where Tim Dalton came in. I was enormously relieved, as I didn't think I had the gravitas for it. I was too lightweight an actor."

On The Saint: "I think attempts to revive The Saint are laudable, and I'm always willing to tag along if anybody wants me. They attempted to revive it again last year but it sank without trace. Roger Moore and I even had cameos. I was the bad guy, but without a knuckleduster this time. To tell you the truth, I kind of miss it."

The Saint? No, I was more of a sinner:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic … mbled.html

Moore Not Less 4371 posts (2002 - 2007)       Moore Than (2012 - 2016)

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Moore Than wrote:

Came across this Daily Mail interview with Ian Ogilvy (published on 21st November 2014) that you may not be aware of. The interview was to promote his new film We Still Kill The Old Way, in which he plays a retired English gangster. But a number of other things are commented on, including the break up of his first marriage, his relationships with other women, his drinking problem. Of more relevance to us at AJB, he comments on James Bond and The Saint.

On Bond: "The head of publicity told me, 'If we wanted another Roger Moore type, you'd be it, but we want another Sean Connery' and that's where Tim Dalton came in. I was enormously relieved, as I didn't think I had the gravitas for it. I was too lightweight an actor."

On The Saint: "I think attempts to revive The Saint are laudable, and I'm always willing to tag along if anybody wants me. They attempted to revive it again last year but it sank without trace. Roger Moore and I even had cameos. I was the bad guy, but without a knuckleduster this time. To tell you the truth, I kind of miss it."

The Saint? No, I was more of a sinner:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic … mbled.html

Interesting piece Moore Than. Thanks for posting ajb007/martini

"Any of the opposition around..?"

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Moore Than wrote:
hot crossed bond wrote:

check out the persuaders too! there something that could be made today

There was talk a few years back of a Persuaders film starring Ben Stiller and Steve Coogan but it came to nothing.

Probably just as well because I have an awful lot of affection for The Persuaders TV series, it made a big impression on me as I was entering my teen years. Roger and Tony were great together, loved the cars, loved John Barry's theme, loved Ken Thorne's incidental music. Undoubtedly, it remains a big personal favourite with a high sentimental value.

If it was going to star those two, then it's probably for the best that it was laid to rest.

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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I'm bumping this ancient Saint thread, because there's some fine and learned discussion, and it went on longer than other more recent Saint threads.
Whatever happened to Willie Garvin? he had an encyclopedic knowledge of exactly the kind of pop culture I like to learn about when I come to this forum

for the record, two other more recent Saint threads:
Jason's Avengers and the Saint thread, which was mostly that one member reviewing episodes from the two series, but also discussion of some related shows and a good explanation of ITV for us colonists
and
this thread specifically on Leslie Charteris's books

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and the reason I have bumped...

the other night I watched the long delayed 2013-ish pilot for a new Saint series.
The pilot was made in 2013, and when it was not sold it was shelved for four years, then was eventually released after Roger Moore's death. Roger was one of the producers.
It's on Netflix at the moment if anybody else wants to watch it
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/The_Saint_%282017_film%29.jpg

I've never heard of most of these actors...
Adam Rayner plays Templar. Eliza Dushku plays Patricia Holm, Templar's girlfriend from the early novels. Here she has been updated to a genius computer hacker and international adventuress in her own right. Thomas Kretschmann plays Rayt Marius, who was a villain in the early novels.
Ian Ogilvie, who played Templar in the 1970s is the main villain. The big baddy behind the other baddies is revealed near the end but I shall not spoil the surprise.

Much of the story is flashback, telling Templar's origin story, and tying him and his family to the original Knights Templar. I guess the origin story content is justified in that this could have been the beginning of a new series.
Value judgement wise I must say I found most of the pilot mediocre and derivative, and neither evocative of the books (despite the authentic character names) or the Roger Moore teevee series. A lot of the ideas seem borrowed from Batman (the origin flashbacks) or Mission impossible (the heist scenes), And Patricia Holme is so very competent she actually leaves our hero very little to do.

But worth watching as it is the last thing our Roger worked on.

Any body else seen it or have thoughts?