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1. Octopussy
2. TSWLM
3. Goldeneye
4. YOLT
5. TLD
6. FYEO
7. FRWL
8. Moonraker
9. LALD
10.TWINE
11.Goldfinger
12.Dr No
13.LTK
14.OHMSS
15.DAF
16.TMWTGG
17.TB
18.AVTAK
19.TND
20.DAD

I think there is a difference between personal favourites and what is technically speaking a good film. I would in no way suggest that Octopussy is a better piece of film making than Goldfinger (for example), its just I happen to enjoy it more! Likewise YOLT probably isn't Connerys finest hour, but I have watched it more than any of his films. Go figure!

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Goldeneye.

Last edited by Tilly Masterson 007 (29th Aug 2005 09:00)

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Tricky sorting out the middle order, but here goes:-

1.  Goldfinger
2.  The Spy Who Loved Me
3.  From Russia With Love
4.  You Only Live Twice
5.  For Your Eyes Only
6.  Moonraker
7.  License to Kill
8.  On Her Majesty's Secret Service
9.  Live and Let Die
10. Dr No
11. Thunderball
12. The Living Daylights
13. Goldeneye
14. Diamonds are Forever
15. The World is Not Enough
16. A View to a Kill
17. Tomorrow Never Dies
18. Octopussy
19. The Man with the Golden Gun
20. Die Another Day

Goldfinger is by far the best IMO, with the perfect combination of story, cast, design, director, effects, gadgets and score. Die Another Day looked pretty good for an hour, but its truly appalling second hour relegates it to last place.

Green figs, yoghurt, coffee very black.

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For people who put LTK 20th, I suggest you watch the film instead of basing it on other peoples reviews who don't know anything about Bond.

1.Licence To Kill
2.The Living Daylights
3.On Her Majestys Secret Service
4.Octopussy
5.Goldeneye
6.A View To A Kill
7.For Your Eyes Only
8.Moonraker
9.Goldfinger
10.Diamonds Are Forever
11.Die Another Day
12.From Russia With Love
13.Live And Let Die
14.The Man With The Golden Gun
15.Thunderball
16.The World Is Not Enough
17.You Only Live Twice
18.Tomorrow Never Dies
19.Dr.No
20.The Spy Who Loved Me

Last edited by Hells Angel (17th Apr 2005 19:33)

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Yeah, LTK was the first Bond Film I saw, and dare I say it, but it was SUPERB, gritty, yes, but I've read the books and that is Fleming right there, hah... (look at mine, LTK is high up...) Plus for all who put TB down, it is slow and can get boring but has the highest Bond kill count (21) and the sexiest Bond girl and villaness and, and has sharks (like LTK)

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1.   On Her Majesty's Secret Service    (best film and best theme song)
2.   You Only Live Twice        (best Photography)
3.   The Man with the Golden Gun    (best incidental music)
4.   From a View to a Kill        (best bad guy)
5.   Thunderball            (best lineup of Bond girls Largo makes a great badguy)
6.   Goldfinger            (most classic Bond film)
7.   Live and Let Die
8.   Diamonds are Forever
9.   Goldeneye
10.  The World is Not Enough
11.  The Spy Who Loved Me    (best Bond Girl)
12.  Dr. No
13.  Die Another Day
14.  Moonraker            (best pretitle sequence)
15.  Octopussy
16.  From Russia with Love
17.  The Living Daylights
18.  License to Kill
19.  For Your Eyes Only
20  Tommorow Never Dies

My top 4 are the ones that I like the incidental music the best.   Good music dosen't get as old as fast as lets say a good plot or a good scene.  If I was including Casino Royale I would have it very high on the list because of its music.  The last 6 on the list are the films that I am the least familiar with.   Like some of you others my list changes all the time.   For example; Thunderball used to be at the top of my list.

Last edited by Kissyfan (14th Apr 2005 21:17)

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I've got my decision finally!

1 GE
2 LALD
3 TLD
4 TB
5 GF
6 TND
7 DAF
8 MN
9 LTK
10 OHMSS
11 DN
12 TMWTGG
13 AVTAK
14 DAD
15 FYEO
16 TSWLM
17 YOLT
18 FRWL
19 TWINE
20 OP

I my mate saw this list, she would totally freak! Good job she doesn't come to this site! ajb007/biggrin
The first few is because I've got a thing for. The first 4 is them and then it's GF because everyone likes that and I do too.
The bottom might freak people out. I just can't stand OP and I'm not the biggest fan of TWINE. Sorry about FRWL and TSWLM but that just happened because they were left after the others.

Relax darling, I'm on top of the situation ajb007/martini

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1. From Russia With Love
2. Live and Let Die (Most entertaining Moore film)
3. You Only Live Twice
4. Goldeneye
5. Thunderball
6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
7. For Your Eyes Only
8. Dr. No
9. Licence to Kill
10. The Living Daylights
11. Moonraker
12. A View to a Kill
13. Die Another Day
14. Diamonds are Forever
15. The Spy Who Loved Me
16. Octopussy
17. THe World is Not Enough
18. The Man With the Golden Gun
19. Goldfinger
20. Tomorrow Never Dies

Don't hate me because I don't like Goldfinger, it is just has the worst of both kinds of bond films. The movie is boring location wise, and the plot is too silly to take seriously, where as Roger Moore films had silly plots and silly antics, and Dr. No and From Russia With Love had serious plots and a serious tone

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My ranking:
1 Goldeneye
2 From Russia With Love
3 For Your Eyes Only
4 License to Kill
5 Octopussy
6 Goldfinger
7 The Living Daylights
8 Thunderball
9 The World is Not Enough
10 Diamonds Are Forever
11 Tomorrow Never Dies
12 The Spy Who Loved Me
13 You Only Live Twice
14 Live and Let Die
15 A View to a Kill
16 On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
17 Moonraker
18 Dr. No
19 The Man With the Golden Gun
20 Die Another Day

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It's deja vu all over again but what the heck.  Top 5-6 are pretty much the same as always, ditto the bottom 5.

1. TWINE
2. GF
3. DAD
4. FRWL
5. GE
6. TB
7. TND
8. FYEO
9. TSWLM
10. DN
11. TLD
12. DAF
13. OHMSS
14. LALD
15. OP
16. MR
17. YOLT
18. AVTAK
19. LTK
20. TMWTGG

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Done this b4 but here we go again....

1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. Goldfinger
3. From Russia With Love
4. For Your Eyes Only
5. The Spy Who Loved Me
6. Thunderball
7. Dr. No
8. The World Is Not Enough
9. Octopussy
10. Goldeneye
11. You Only Live Twice
12. The Man With The Golden Gun
13. Live and Let Die
14. Diamonds Are Forever
15. The Living Daylights
16. Licence to Kill
17. A View to A Kill
18. Tomorrow Never Dies
19. Die Another Day
20. Moonraker

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Quoting Hells Angel:
For people who put LTK 20th, I suggest you watch the film instead of basing it on other peoples reviews who don't know anything about Bond.

This is a VERY weird assumption and accusation to make. 
Do you really think most people on a Bond fansite HAVEN'T seen EVERY Bond movie at least a few times?
Most lists (certainly mine) tend to be based quite heavily on which ones we feel are good enough QUALITY to most enjoy watching AGAIN.............

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Haven't done this is a while ...

1) From Russia With Love
2) The Living Daylights
3) Dr No
4) Licence To Kill
5) Live And Let Die
6) Goldfinger
7) You Only Live Twice
8) The Spy Who Loved Me
9) Goldeneye
10) For Your Eyes only
11) Octopussy
12) Thunderball
13) The World Is Not Enough
14) Diamonds Are Forever
15) OHMSS
16) The Man With Golden Gun
17) Moonraker
18) Tomorrow Never Dies
19) A View To A Kill
20) Die Another Day

The top 5-10 more or less stay the same,the rest changes quite a bit

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I give up!

Okay, I tried to do this, but it's impossible. I'm only sure in the bottom four, and I'm pretty sure those will never change, even their order have been constant. But I just can't put the rest in any order...

Last edited by The Cat (15th Apr 2005 17:04)

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reverse order:

20)moonraker (falls off a cliff after the gondola scene)
19) diamonds are forever (campy, didnt make sense after OMHSS)
18) die another day (the first 75 mins are top notch. the last half hour is terrible. brosnan phones it in, halle berry is terrible)
17) a view to a kill (walken is good, moore is too old, uninspired bond girl)
16) octopussy (kind of boring, good performence by maud adams)
15) you only live twice (amazing theme song tho)
14) the man with a golden gun (interesting story, subpar production values)
13) the living daylights (bumped back only because others are better)
12) the world is not enough (elektra king is one of the most original characters in the series)
11) dr. no (low budget production values, great introduction to bond)
10)for your eyes only (maybe moores best performence, somewhat weak story)
9) tomorrow never dies (paris carver is a fascenating character, rehashes TSWLM)
8) thunderball (great theme song, too much underwater)
7) live and let die (great introduction to moore, the boat chase is outstanding)
6) on her majesties secret service (wouldve been THE bond film had connery made it)
5) goldeneye (brosnan is great, best fight (bond and trevelyan)
4) the spy who loved me (IMO, the grandest of the films, best visuals)
3) from russia with love (connery really comes into the role here. not technically the first, but the first real bond film)
2) goldfinger (still great, connerys best. best villian in the series)
1)licence to kill (finest movie in this series. best story, best characterization. slightly poor resolution)

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Let me fix mine.

I'll try reverse order.

20. The World is not Enough - Boring and bad villians.

19. For Your Eyes Only - First time good, but I hate the scenes in Italy.

18. Goldfinger - I don't like the setting, America (yawn).

17. Dr. No - Book was better and bad Bond girl.

16. Die Another Day - Take over the world...again? Plus, the Korean plot, eh.

15. Tomorrow Never Dies - Motorcycle chase too long.

14. The Spy Who Loved Me - Bad Bond girl.

13. You Only Live Twice - You Only Live Once, I couldn't watch it a second time, Japanese setting is also, eh. (Eh, is bad)

12. Live and Let Die - Good, but plot was weak. I really liked Baron Samedi, ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!
ha! ha!

11. Moonraker - Good, but a little campy (Jaws), but had stunning effects for its time.

10. Diamonds Are Forever - I hated it, now I like it. Heh, the world changes.

9. The Man with the Golden Gun - I laughed.....Good villian.

8. A View to a Kill - Zorin

7. From Russia With Love - Classic.

6. Goldeneye - Good action + sexy villaness = Good movie

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - I like Terry Savalas more than Donald Pleasance.

4. Licence to Kill - First Bond film I saw... GREAT!

3. Octopussy - I like it...

The Living Daylights and Thunderball are tied for first...

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Let me change mine, because this is truly how I feel.

1. From Russia with Love.
1. The Spy Who Loved Me.
1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
1. The Living Daylights.
1. The World is Not Enough.
1. Licence to Kill.
1. Thunderball.
1. Live and Let Die.
1. Tomorrow Never Dies.
1. Octopussy.
1. Goldfinger.
1. Goldeneye.
1. Moonraker.
1. Dr. No.
1. The Man with the Golden Gun.
1. For Your Eyes Only.
1. You Only Live Twice.
1. Die Another Day.
1. A View to a Kill.
1. Diamonds are Forever.

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Re: The ULTIMATE bond ranking- your 1-20

Quoting royalmile:

This is a VERY weird assumption and accusation to make. 
Do you really think most people on a Bond fansite HAVEN'T seen EVERY Bond movie at least a few times?
Most lists (certainly mine) tend to be based quite heavily on which ones we feel are good enough QUALITY to most enjoy watching AGAIN.............

yeah but most people watch Licence To Kill once then decide they don't like it,then never watch it again, if I don't feel like watching a bond film because it doesn't have a " I could watch this all the time feel to it", I don't simply pass it off as the worst bond film just for that reason.
Anyway I was mainly on about n00bs who follow everyone else's opinion on Licence To Kill

Last edited by Hells Angel (16th Apr 2005 10:45)

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Goldeneye
The spy who loved me
From Russia with love
For your eyes only
You only live twice
Goldfinger
Octopussy
Tomorrow never dies
The world is not enough
The living daylights
Thunderball
Live and let die
Licence to kill
OHMSS
Moonraker
Die another day
Dr No
The man with the golden gun
A view to a kill
Diamonds are forever

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Yeah let's do another all time list, just going to look after the old thread afterwards if anything has changed....
And to explain the low position of LTK, it's a rather mundane average action film that lacks the sophistication of the Bond Films i placed higher.

1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia with Love
3. Thunderball
4. Goldeneye
5. The World is Not Enough
6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
7. Dr. No
8. You Only Live Twice
8. The Spy Who loved Me
10. Octopussy
10. Die Another Day
12. For Your Eyes Only
12. Live And Let Die
12. The Living Daylights  * Never Say Never Again
15. Moonraker
16. Tomorrow Never Dies
17. Diamonds Are Forever
18. Licence To Kill
19. The Man With The Golden Gun
20. A View To A Kill **

*Never say never Again is placed where it would be as an official entry.
** AVTAK even though last on the list would still be rated above average in a list of all films just in the Bond Universe my least favourite.

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I only have time for my #1 right now and thats
The Man With The Golden Gun

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1. goldfinger
2. from russia with love
3. you only live twice
4. dr no
5. on her majesty's secret service
6. thunderball
7. goldeneye
8. tomorrow never dies
9. the man with the golden gun
10.die another day
11.the world is not enough
12. for your eyes only
13. octopussy
14. diamonds are forever
15. a view to a kill
16. moonraker
17. the spy who loved me
18. live and let die
19. living daylights
20. license to kill

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Only time for my top 5...
1. GE
2. FRWL
3. YOLT
4. DAF
5. TMWTGG

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Quoting Hells Angel:

Quoting Hells Angel:
Quoting royalmile:

This is a VERY weird assumption and accusation to make. 
Do you really think most people on a Bond fansite HAVEN'T seen EVERY Bond movie at least a few times?
Most lists (certainly mine) tend to be based quite heavily on which ones we feel are good enough QUALITY to most enjoy watching AGAIN.............

yeah but most people watch Licence To Kill once then decide they don't like it,then never watch it again, if I don't feel like watching a bond film because it doesn't have a " I could watch this all the time feel to it", I don't simply pass it off as the worst bond film just for that reason.
Anyway I was mainly on about n00bs who follow everyone else's opinion on Licence To Kill

Fair enough.  That goes for any movie that's low on anyone's list, yeah.  I know I've watched the movies a ton of times and there are a lot of reasons for my opinions on placing of each and every movie.  Quality is subjective, certainly, and based upon one or more of many possible factors, but that's what it all comes down to in the end.
We all should definitely make up our own minds about all of these things, from CR to TMWTGG, from DN to DAD............

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I'm glad there are so many sensible people ranking Daylights and Licence well inside their top 10s. Both are constantly underrated by 'fairweather fans' and are surely two highlights of the series. I think one can be sure that Fleming would have liked them.