It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Royale - How the First OO7 Novel Got Away - Until Now.

IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD ROYALE - HOW THE FIRST OO7 NOVEL GOT AWAY - UNTIL NOW.

So you think you know everything about Casino Royale? Think again. This article may not be the final word on the history of Fleming's first book, but I promise you there will be at least one bit of information you did not know before.

So head on over to my website www.shatterhand007.com

Enjoy.

Comments

  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,990Quartermasters
    Very cool, Dr. S. It's about time this one got 'out there' in a more proper fashion.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,564Chief of Staff
    An excellent article - but I'm more than a little peeved that when AJB gets a mention it's for a negative comment, seems like a cheap shot and your much better than that Dr. S.
    YNWA 97
  • i expect u2 diei expect u2 die LondonPosts: 583MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    An excellent article - but I'm more than a little peeved that when AJB gets a mention it's for a negative comment, seems like a cheap shot and your much better than that Dr. S.

    I don't know, it seems alright to me - that kind of stuff was said, and its a genuine quote which serves as quite a microcosm for a lot of the negativity. But seeing as that quote is only there to show the contrast between opinion then and now, something positivie from the same source would have been nice.

    Excellent article!
  • Dr ShatterhandDr Shatterhand Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    edited October 2006
    I understand you being upset at the mention of AJB. But the website was not negative, just a disgruntled fan. I basically wanted to mention the source website so that others who have never been to it can link to it. It was never meant to be a 'cheap shot'.

    Of course, if you want me to remove the link, I can do it to respect your site. But I feel that those who have never been here can find out if they like it or not on their own.

    But think on the bright side, I did not link anything to MI6. Only CommanderBond, and that was for the Raymond Benson quote.

    All and all, I enjoy reading comments from all three sites. Having been in some debates between fanatical Bond fans from each and every one. Keeps the blood flowing.
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,882Chief of Staff
    I wouldn't take down the article, Dr. S--it's very comprehensive, informative, and entertaining. So we only get a mention when one of our members spouts off. . .big deal. You were nice enough to provide a link, so someone can come here and see what we're really like!

    Oh, and that picture of Joanna Pettit. . .YOWZA! :o
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,990Quartermasters
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Oh, and that picture of Joanna Pettit. . .YOWZA! :o

    I'm with you, Hardy...back in the day, she was hot hot hot :x
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 26,564Chief of Staff
    I understand you being upset at the mention of AJB. But the website was not negative, just a disgruntled fan. I basically wanted to mention the source website so that others who have never been to it can link to it. It was never meant to be a 'cheap shot'.

    I'm not upset at the mention of AJB at all - I, personally, just would have liked a positive comment from AJB as well - we do allow people to have opinions here ;)
    Of course, if you want me to remove the link, I can do it to respect your site. But I feel that those who have never been here can find out if they like it or not on their own.

    But think on the bright side, I did not link anything to MI6. Only CommanderBond, and that was for the Raymond Benson quote.

    All and all, I enjoy reading comments from all three sites. Having been in some debates between fanatical Bond fans from each and every one. Keeps the blood flowing.

    Fair comment.

    It is a great article and really should be reproduced in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang magazine.
    YNWA 97
  • Lazenby880Lazenby880 LondonPosts: 525MI6 Agent
    edited October 2006
    Sir Miles wrote:
    I'm not upset at the mention of AJB at all - I, personally, just would have liked a positive comment from AJB as well - we do allow people to have opinions here ;)
    To be fair it is made clear that the words are those of a 'disgruntled fan', with AJB merely being mentioned as the avenue through which he registered his evident disgust.

    Overall Dr Shatterhand, I felt that was an interesting article with a superlative level of research. With an editor's perusal I can definitely envisage It's a Mad, Mad, Mad Royale being reprinted in a published magazine. :)
  • Red IndianRed Indian BostonPosts: 427MI6 Agent
    Great article, thanks for taking the time. The girls in CR 1967 are absolutely incredible! I think they're the only thing that keep my eyes on that mess when it's on...
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    Excellent read, Dr! I especially enjoyed the tidbits about the filming of the live-version of CR. The fact that lines had to be snipped here and there explains alot about the version I saw!
  • superadosuperado Regent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,652MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    An excellent article - but I'm more than a little peeved that when AJB gets a mention it's for a negative comment, seems like a cheap shot and your much better than that Dr. S.

    Wasn't that a quote used in one of the early, post-announcement articles by the BBC or The Times?
    "...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,990Quartermasters
    superado wrote:
    Sir Miles wrote:
    An excellent article - but I'm more than a little peeved that when AJB gets a mention it's for a negative comment, seems like a cheap shot and your much better than that Dr. S.

    Wasn't that a quote used in one of the early, post-announcement articles by the BBC or The Times?

    More to the point...doesn't that quote belong to Dan Same? Dan, correct me if I'm wrong...
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  • Willie GarvinWillie Garvin Posts: 1,412MI6 Agent
    edited October 2006
    IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD ROYALE - HOW THE FIRST OO7 NOVEL GOT AWAY - UNTIL NOW.

    So you think you know everything about Casino Royale? Think again. This article may not be the final word on the history of Fleming's first book, but I promise you there will be at least one bit of information you did not know before.

    So head on over to my website www.shatterhand007.com

    Enjoy.


    Superb article,Dr.S!Well-researched and about as complete as anyone could want.Please don't let any complaints about the brief negative quote about Daniel Craig from AJB bother you.It's a solid representation of what many people were saying about Craig when he was first announced as the new 007.This kind of complaint was posted on all of the James Bond websites at that time.

    Your article has wonderful illustrations and plenty of in-depth information.In fact,it's probably as close to being the last word on the Feldman Casino Royale as anything could hope to be.

    Again,thanks for sharing--it's much appreciated!

    (And I agree with L880--this article really should be published offline so that wider audiences can have an opportunity to see it.)
  • Dr ShatterhandDr Shatterhand Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Thanks Willie. The article has been a labour of love.

    I have had to do some revisions on it, though notably minor in a trivial way. One is that Peter Lorre did not walk off the set after dying in the 1954 TV version. I found info about that from two sources which ended up incorrect. One reader emailed me and told me that I was wrong. After verifying it by contacting Spyguise, I have since corrected it. (Well, you can't win them all" - Bond: Thunderball)

    The second misinformation was that the distribution rights to NSNA was won by MGM from TaliaFilms in 1997 and not 1999 when the Sony case was dropped. Yet another source I got that from was incorrect. It has since been remedied.
  • caractacus pottscaractacus potts Orbital communicator, level 10Posts: 3,942MI6 Agent
    ...Peter Lorre did not walk off the set after dying in the 1954 TV version.
    are you sure? the TV special is included as a bonus on the DVD of the 1967 David Niven version
    I remember Lorre falling in a chair, presumably dead, and then opening his eyes as Cardsharp Jimmy Bond and the other characters moved to stageright, then Lorre getting up and walking off stageleft
    meybe I drempt it but someone else who has the DVD could check
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    I just watched the live CR on the David Niven version DVD a few weeks back. The last shot we/I saw of Peter Lorre was his conceding defeat while finger his hat brim on the table in front of him. I suspected he was reaching for the razor blade that was said to be stashed in there, but the show ended with Jimmy Bond wiping his brow or something like that.
  • Dr ShatterhandDr Shatterhand Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    In the Spyguise VHS version (they cannot make a DVD due to legal reasons), Peter Lorre makes one last attempt and is shot a second time by Nelson. Approximately 60 seconds is missing from the DVD version, but not enough to really make me want to cough up 19.95 for the VHS version.

    Perhaps I can find a copy on ebay for less.
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