Acceptable vs. Unacceptable...

Smoke_13Smoke_13 Kitchener Ont CanadaPosts: 285MI6 Agent
This idea popped into my head while writing on another thread and joking about what I deemed to be "Over-the-top garbage." In some Bond films. ie- The double take pigeon in Moonraker, running on the crocodiles backs in LALD, Yet there are also other impossibilities in Bond films that I not only accept, but I find that I completely embrace.

So I invite the board to respond with several once sentence posts that look like this....

"In my Bond films I find ___________ acceptable, but seeing ______________ is completely unacceptable."

I'll start things off...

"In my Bond films I find "seeing a man with silver teeth bite through a chain completely acceptable," but seeing "Bond surf on a snow mobile ski with Beach Boy music playing in the background" completely unacceptable"

Hope you have fun with it :D
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  • s96024s96024 Posts: 1,519MI6 Agent
    Didn't the owner of the crocodile farm actually perform that stunt himself. Ross Kananga, and they used his name.
  • BestBondSeanBestBondSean A Bavarian in CornwallPosts: 108MI6 Agent
    He did indeed, however the crocs were strapped with heavy weights to the ground of the pond, so that they could only move their mouths and tails, mind you still hard enough to do, especially as Kananga fell into the pond several times, so the crocodiles were expecting him on his later attempts.

    I find it acceptable in DAD that Bond escapes the Icarus blast in the little rocket car and hangs of a n icy wall, i find it unacceptable that two minutes later he rides a CGI wave the size of a skyscraper back to safety.
  • JamesbondjrJamesbondjr Posts: 462MI6 Agent
    edited December 2006
    "In my Bond films I find Roger the coger in space acceptable, but seeing, or not seeing, an invisible car is completely unacceptable."
    1- On Her Majesty's Secret Service 2- Casino Royale 3- Licence To Kill 4- Goldeneye 5- From Russia With Love
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    Smoke_13, this one is for you. :p :D

    In my Bond films I find running on the backs of crocodiles in LALD acceptable, but seeing a double taking pigeon in Moonraker is completely unacceptable.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited December 2006
    I love this thread. :D Here's another one:

    In my Bond films I find it acceptable that Bond would kill an unarmed man in cold blood but I find it unacceptable that his female boss would spend most of her time psychoanalysing 007, rather than just giving him his assignments.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Moore Not LessMoore Not Less Posts: 1,095MI6 Agent
    I find Jaws acceptable in TSWLM, he's a real menace, a killer. I find Jaws unacceptable in MR, he's there mainly for laughs and has a cringeworthy romance with Dolly.
  • jbfreakjbfreak Posts: 144MI6 Agent
    Smoke_13 wrote:

    "In my Bond films I find "seeing a man with silver teeth bite through a chain completely acceptable," but seeing "Bond surf on a snow mobile ski with Beach Boy music playing in the background" completely unacceptable"

    Dido

    In my Bond films I find a spaceship that eats other spaceships acceptable, but seeing Mayday in a thong unacceptable.

    In my Bond films I find a living man with a bullet in his head unacceptable, but a man who can get shot several times and lives with voodoo unacceptable.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited December 2006
    jbfreak wrote:
    In my Bond films I find a living man with a bullet in his head unacceptable, but a man who can get shot several times and lives with voodoo unacceptable.
    Don't you mean that you find a living man with a bullet in his head acceptable? ;)

    Edit-my mistake. ;% I looked over at the TWINE thread, and you do mean unacceptable. ;)
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • s96024s96024 Posts: 1,519MI6 Agent
    I can't see whay someone couldn't have a bullet in his head and still be alive. I actually thought that was quite a good idea tbh. I can also see invisible cars being a possibility in the future.
  • positivelyshockingpositivelyshocking Posts: 53MI6 Agent
    Great Thread!

    In my Bond films I find Kamal Khan doing the "go outside and get him" gag acceptable but I find the "go get him" gag by Max Zorin in AVTAK two years later unnacceptable.

    In my Bond films I find the appalling cameo by Madonna in DAD unacceptable and the godawful mess that is the theme to Die Another Day unacceptable...... oh no hang on that is right actually!!!

    In my Bond films I find the ever changing face of Blofeld acceptable but Rog's ever more bouffant hair do as the films progressed unnacceptable.

    This is fun!
  • Smoke_13Smoke_13 Kitchener Ont CanadaPosts: 285MI6 Agent
    In my Bond films I find the ever changing face of Blofeld acceptable but Rog's ever more bouffant hair do as the films progressed unnacceptable.

    ...classic.

    In my Bond films I find a young Roger Moore seducing every woman in sight acceptable. But I find a 16 year old figure skater throwing herself at a flabby 60 year old Moore in FYEO completely unacceptable.
  • baccaretbaccaret Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    In my James Bond films I find many different actors playing blofeld and leiter acceptable, I find Denise richards and Tanya Roberts playing scientists unacceptable.
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    In my Bond films I find going in to space acceptable :))

    In my Bond films I find Goldfingers special effects unacceptable.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • Sir Hillary BraySir Hillary Bray College of ArmsPosts: 2,174MI6 Agent
    Excellent thread, Smoke -- pointing out the total lack of logic most of us use in deciding what's OK and what isn't!

    For me:

    -- A slide whistle is acceptable; a Tarzan yell is unacceptable.

    -- A tarantula clearly crawling on a pane of glass is acceptable; a CGI tsunami-sized wave is unacceptable.

    -- A constant stream of Sony Vaio laptop and Sony Ericsson phone product placements is acceptable; a single British Airways billboard is unacceptable.
    Hilly...you old devil!
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited December 2006
    Here are some more from me:

    I find it acceptable Denise Richards being a nuclear scientist; I find it unacceptable Halle Berry being a CIA agent.

    I find it acceptable that Connery would express fear and would throwup in DN; I find it unacceptable that Lazenby would express the level of fear that he did during the crowd scene in OHMSS.

    I find it acceptable that Bond would fall in love with Tracey; I find it unacceptable that Bond would seemingly fall in love in three of the past four films.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • positivelyshockingpositivelyshocking Posts: 53MI6 Agent
    I find it acceptable that Blofeld changes his appearance from a single bald American to three or more versions of himself as a white haired Englishman using plastic surgery however I find it unacceptable that dear old Rog can no longer change his expression from the same one of mock surprise in AVTAK because of his plastic surgery. (Don't try to tell me he didn't have his eyelids done between OP and AVTAK!)
    Sorry JFF!
  • Moore Not LessMoore Not Less Posts: 1,095MI6 Agent
    I find the first half of DAD acceptable. An example, three real surfers riding real waves. I find the second half of DAD unacceptable. An example, a CGI Bond riding a CGI tsunami wave.
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    Acceptable
    Bond crashing an automobile off of a multi-story carpark into a rental car agency in TND.

    Unacceptable
    Bond shooting and exploding an embassy in Madagascar in CR!
  • s96024s96024 Posts: 1,519MI6 Agent
    darenhat wrote:
    Acceptable
    Bond crashing an automobile off of a multi-story carpark into a rental car agency in TND.

    Unacceptable
    Bond shooting and exploding an embassy in Madagascar in CR!

    He shot the gas tanks didn't he?
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    s96024 wrote:
    darenhat wrote:
    Acceptable
    Bond crashing an automobile off of a multi-story carpark into a rental car agency in TND.

    Unacceptable
    Bond shooting and exploding an embassy in Madagascar in CR!

    He shot the gas tanks didn't he?

    Yes, he did. Because we all know that embassies are fully equipped with highly-explosive fuel drums.
  • s96024s96024 Posts: 1,519MI6 Agent
    edited December 2006
    I don't see why they wouldn't have them. Where I work we have too large propane tanks outside which are used to fuel the heating and that's in the UK. I don't see why they would not need something similiar there. With there being numerous other reasons/uses they may have them.
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    edited December 2006
    s96024 wrote:
    I don't see why they wouldn't have them. Where I work we have too large propane tanks outside which are used to fuel the heating and that's in the UK. I don't see why they would not need something similiar there. With there being numerous other reasons/uses they may have them.

    Maybe if Bond spied two propane tanks, or maybe if Bond was obviously in a 'vehicle maintenance' yard, it would make sense. For me, it's one of those new cheap 'plot' (or non-plot) devices. If you need an explosion, set some oil drums or something explosive in the 'back room'. Make the audience do the thinking, rather than the writer. Sure, we can come up with some excuse as to why it's there, but I don't like it. It's something that drives me crazy, and something I view as a lazy writer's ploy to thinly stretch action to fit into the story. Just one of my little quirks.
  • Smoke_13Smoke_13 Kitchener Ont CanadaPosts: 285MI6 Agent
    In my Bond films I find a Body Gaurd with a razor brimmed hat that cuts the head of statues and flies back to the thrower completely acceptable.

    I find a bodygaurd with a metal claw that is so obviously a $10 add on to the actors existing hand completely unacceptable. :D
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    expression from the same one of mock surprise in AVTAK because of his plastic surgery. (Don't try to tell me he didn't have his eyelids done between OP and AVTAK!)

    I believe you but is there a reference to this anywhere?
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • baccaretbaccaret Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    I have a good one. I find an invisible car acceptable a remote control car acceptable even a lotus that becomes a submarine acceptable, but I find an amc matador that flys totally unacceptable!!!!!
  • baccaretbaccaret Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    another one, I find Bond in casual attire acceptable.but I find bond in a blue leisure suit totally unacceptable!!
  • James F EJames F E Posts: 140MI6 Agent
    A Black Felix is very acceptable.... A female M is absolutely unacceptable.


    Fiona Volpe: Some men don't like to be driven.

    Bond: No, some men don't like to be taken for a ride.
  • Smoke_13Smoke_13 Kitchener Ont CanadaPosts: 285MI6 Agent
    A boat chase that occasionally jumps the odd bit of ground or road work is completely acceptable. (LALD)

    A boat that drives through the city streets of London England for what seems to be about 8 city blocks is completely unacceptable. (TWINE)
  • mythrenegademythrenegade Posts: 35MI6 Agent
    I find Bond diving after an airplane, catching it, and taking control acceptable, but Bond piloting a space shuttle unacceptable.

    Joel
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    Acceptable
    A BMW that can be remotely-driven by the use of a simple touchpad at extremely high speeds

    Unacceptable
    An Aston Martin that can become invisible through the use of fiberoptics.
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