Connery Back?...For A Price

LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
edited March 2007 in Quantum of Solace - Bond 22 (2008)
I especially love this one, as I got slapped around on these very boards back in '05 for suggesting it:


http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=4854

I've always felt the death of Bond's parents deserved a look...but Sir Sean's getting on a bit to be climbing the Aiguille de la Perseverance...

Perhaps Tim Dalton :v ;)

...And whomever would play Monique Delacroix-Bond, she's have to be waaaayyyy younger :o

Given the mention of Hannes Oberhauser in the latest Bond Dossier, however, one has to wonder whether such a thing might be in the offing sometime before Craig's arc is finished...but Sir Sean would be 80 before he could do it, if it weren't in #22...

This is a bit cheeky on Connery's part, though, isn't it? "It will definitely cost them." Yes...I should think it would...and I can't imagine them paying whatever he might demand...

Of course this is most likely nonsense...but, as rumours go, it's more interesting---to me---than hearing Colin Salmon talk about still wanting to be Bond :s
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  • Red IndianRed Indian BostonPosts: 427MI6 Agent
    edited March 2007
    Interesting buzz Loeff! I wonder if this has come about because of Spielberg and Lucas trying to land him for Indy IV? I'm quite certain he'll do that film; he always said it was his favorite role.

    Didn't like the poison shoe?!?! That's straight out of the novel! EDIT: Oops, just remembered it was knitting needles! ;) But come on, a dagger in a shoe is not that futuristic Sean! It always amazes me how he has no recollection for details of the role he originated! Just like Harrison Ford with Indiana Jones! When he was on Inside the Actors Studio he couldn't remember how Indy got his name! It makes me wonder if these guys are just trying to be cool and laid-back about their iconic status...

    I can't see Wilson and Broccoli paying him what he would want to do a new Bond film. I'd imagine he'd ask upwards of $20 million - you know he would love to stick it to them after their history! They're paying Craig $15 million (?) for three films, so I don't think they'd pony up for Connery.

    It's fun to think about, but I don't know that I would like to see a former Bond in one of Craig's grittier films. Just for fun though, what about Lazenby and Dame Diana as his parents? Too old though...

    This brings to mind an interesting question: Who would you like to see play Bond's parents? What about Christian Bale or Gerard Butler and Kate Winslet? (By the way, I think she would have been great as Vesper). I could see Sam Neill as Bond's father, although again for the flashback maybe he's a little too old now. I guess you would want a couple in their 30's - 40's. Suggestions?

    I think it's really cool how the slate has been wiped clean. This is a GREAT opportunity for EON to create some really wonderful moments with the franchise. I could see a young James getting into some sort of accident and some quiet/emotional moments with his parents. If done properly it could really add to some of the great scenes we've had in OHMSS and CR.

    I don't know why but I always imagined Bond having a VERY close relationship with his parents. Maybe it's because Fleming made Bond such a romantic. I think it really adds to the arc of the character. He is capable of very deep emotions/love, but after his experiences with his parents, Vesper, and then Tracy, he always keeps those feelings in check. How old was he when they were killed?

    P.S. What about Bond actually witnessing his parents' death from afar? I'm hearing John Barry's "Centrifuge And Corrinne Put Down" from Moonraker! Oh, the possibilities if done properly... Whatever happens, please don't screw up what you just started!
  • SeanConnery007SeanConnery007 The Bond Archive - London, EngPosts: 169MI6 Agent
    How exactly would Bond's parents appear in a film!?
    The concept of a 'flash back' sequence sounds terribly poor.
    Perhaps Bond's parents could appear in a Young Bond film?
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  • Red IndianRed Indian BostonPosts: 427MI6 Agent
    edited March 2007
    What about a nightmare? I'd venture a guess that 007 has some pretty crazy dreams...
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,224Chief of Staff
    Red Indian wrote:
    Didn't like the poison shoe?!?! That's straight out of the novel! EDIT: Oops, just remembered it was knitting needles! ;)

    You were right both times! Both are in the novel. :p
  • Red IndianRed Indian BostonPosts: 427MI6 Agent
    I must be suffering from gadget-isis! 8-)
  • Neville JamesNeville James Posts: 29MI6 Agent
    I'd like to see Connery as M!
    Dame Judi is fab but she can't go on forever.
    If not Connery then I have always thought Stephen Fry would make a great M
    But only if they let him smoke his pipe!!!!
    Yes... Stephen is a propper chap!
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    edited March 2007
    SeanConnery007 wrote:
    How exactly would Bond's parents appear in a film!?
    The concept of a 'flash back' sequence sounds terribly poor.

    I'd do it in the PTS---show them climbing the mountain...and the accident (if that's what it was :v )...Then, after the titles sequence, superimpose: "Twenty-Nine Years Later"...
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  • Baron_BondBaron_Bond Posts: 17MI6 Agent
    They could show how his parents died using flashback or in the PTS. But they couldn't use Sean Connery, I think he's a little to old to play Bond's father when he dies in the climbing accident.
    Maybe M... personally I'm not sure how I feel about that. When he says 'for a price' it makes me think he might not take it seriously, and it would be novelty. Just SC because it is SC. But then again having IMO the two best Bond's in the same Bond movie, it is enticing.
  • DAWUSSDAWUSS My homepagePosts: 517MI6 Agent
    The whole flashback thing is an invitation for either a YJB film, or fans picturing that Bond in the flashback as the Bond in the YJB series...
  • DEFIANT 74205DEFIANT 74205 Perth, AustraliaPosts: 1,881MI6 Agent
    Neville James wrote:
    I'd like to see Connery as M!
    Dame Judi is fab but she can't go on forever.
    If not Connery then I have always thought Stephen Fry would make a great M
    But only if they let him smoke his pipe!!!!
    Yes... Stephen is a propper chap!

    The only time I've seen Stephen Fry is in Black Adder, so I can't envisage him in a serious role. But I'm all for Connery being cast as M, but will the audience accept him as M? For some Bond fans, Sean Connery IS James Bond, and it would be a bit wierd having him behind the desk rather than in front of it. Aside from that, I have every confidence that Connery will be a very capable M - he is always at his best in "no-nonsense" roles, and M (the literary M, anyway), is a "get to the point and cut the crap" kind of person.
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  • IanT007IanT007 Posts: 117MI6 Agent
    There is no way Connery could be cast in the new Bond films without seriously undermining their credibility. It would be celluloid suicide.

    As for a flashback of Bond's parents dying...what would be the point?
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    edited March 2007
    If it's done in the PTS---the first scene of the movie---obviously it won't be a flashback. Perhaps the only point would be to show that the mountain climbing 'accident' wasn't an accident at all.

    The James Bond dossier from the official CR website* talks about an Austrian man named Hannes Oberhauser, who became a mentor to teen-aged James Bond, and instructed him in snow-skiing, mountain-climbing, etc., prior to his mysterious disappearance.

    With that in mind, the following is pure speculation on my part, but this is how I'd write it:
    It could be that Oberhauser might reappear in one of Craig's Bond films...and somehow become linked to the death of Bond's parents.

    Naturally, using Bond's parents as a story element doesn't hinge on Connery---or any previous Bond---in fact, as has been pointed out, it would probably be more effective to make them a pair of forty-somethings...

    * I will gladly send a PDF file of this along to anyone who wants one...just send me a PM :007)
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Don't we get these Connery is going to cameo rumours every time a new film is in production? I can remember reading in a national newspaper just before CR was released that the big man actually appeared as a man who is scared by an explosion. They even quoted a 'source' who had supposedly seen the film. :D There was a similar rumour before DAD. Here's a couple of links I found that helped spred the word.

    http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Sir+Sean+Connery+s++Casino++cameo-9323.html

    http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/2006/04/sean_connery_cameo_in_new_bond_film.html
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    Absolutely. As long as Connery's body temperature remains higher than that of whatever room he's in, these rumours will persist...

    Perhaps saying something like "It would definitely cost them" is his way of having fun with it.
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  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    Something tells me that Connery's days with Bond are over, and have been since he sued the makers of NSNA.
  • JennyFlexFanJennyFlexFan Posts: 1,497MI6 Agent
    I'd bet Moore would be a bit nicer about taking on the project of being Bond's "dad" than Sean would. Nothing against him, but he tends to distance himself from Bond and is a bit "egotistical" while Roger could not be any more embracing of the series.

    Roger would be my #1 Bond Father choice, he'd be a jolly and likeable gentleman while still having the serious edge.

    Monique... Alison Doody. ;)
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    edited March 2007
    JennyFlexFan wrote:
    I'd bet Moore would be a bit nicer about taking on the project of being Bond's "dad" than Sean would. Nothing against him, but he tends to distance himself from Bond and is a bit "egotistical" while Roger could not be any more embracing of the series.

    Roger would be my #1 Bond Father choice, he'd be a jolly and likeable gentleman while still having the serious edge.

    I'd have no problem with that...honestly. My issue with Moore, at this stage, would run very similar to my concern with Connery: Getting either of these old gents on the side of a mountain :o
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  • JennyFlexFanJennyFlexFan Posts: 1,497MI6 Agent
    No problem getting Alison up that mountain though. :D
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 21,766MI6 Agent
    I don't think bringing back Bond senior would be a good idea, particularely at this stage.
    Sir Roger would also be the wrong kind of actor in a Craig movie. I can't think of two Bond actors more different.
  • JennyFlexFanJennyFlexFan Posts: 1,497MI6 Agent
    Roger did a very good "serious" character in 'The Wild Geese'.
  • Lyle Dark-008Lyle Dark-008 Posts: 64MI6 Agent
    It'd be cool for Sean Connery to play Andrew Bond! :)
  • DAWUSSDAWUSS My homepagePosts: 517MI6 Agent
    If we're going to bring people back, let's bring back John Barry...
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,989Quartermasters
    Connery might be easier :#

    I miss Barry as well...
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  • Moore Not LessMoore Not Less Posts: 1,095MI6 Agent
    Who doesn't miss the great John Barry.

    But to be fair to David Arnold, with the exception of the action music he really produced the goods in Casino Royale. Overall, he may not match up to the great man but he has produced some gems in all four of his Bond scores.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 36,224Chief of Staff
    Moore Not Less wrote:
    Who doesn't miss the great John Barry.

    But to be fair to David Arnold, with the exception of the action music he really produced the goods in Casino Royale. Overall, he may not match up to the great man but he has produced some gems in all four of his Bond scores.

    Complete accord with that. Arnold's always been better with the slower stuff (to pick one from each film: "Paris And Bond", "Casino", "Going Down Together", "City Of Lovers") than his action cues, which often seem to overly rely on percussion. This is why his CR score is his best yet, since the structure of the film allows more for the emotional pieces.
    And without knocking Arnold, put me in the "missing John Barry" club, too.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,743MI6 Agent
    I think both Connery and Moore would be too old to play Andrew Bond. Wasn't Bond's father relatively young when he died?
  • Agent WadeAgent Wade Ann ArborPosts: 321MI6 Agent
    The only film to use a flash back didn't exactly rank so well among the other Bond films. I'd be much more willing to see the "climbing accident" as a PTS treatment. Having another flashback would be as weird as seeing Anakin's dreams in Revenge of the Sith. It breaks the formula in an undesirable fashion.
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  • DAWUSSDAWUSS My homepagePosts: 517MI6 Agent
    I believe Goldeneye
  • Agent WadeAgent Wade Ann ArborPosts: 321MI6 Agent
    Bond channels his will to slow his heartbeat by remembering his time spent in the P.O.W. prison.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited April 2007
    Agent Wade wrote:
    Bond channels his will to slow his heartbeat by remembering his time spent in the P.O.W. prison.
    You mean in DAD? Well, I don't think that could be described as a flashback. Nonetheless, I do agree that unless done correctly, flashbacks don't always work.
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