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Very interesting quotes.  I think I'm looking forward to Forster's Bond moreso than any director since Hunt.

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The Kite Runner isn't getting great reviews. Many cite Forster's direction as a key problem, that his style is too stuffy and reverent (to the book). I can see this, actually, going by Stranger Than... though I haven't seen Monster's Ball or Finding Neverland. I'm not sure Forster has real momentum in his movies.

"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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Though I should add that others give it good reviews, seen on the posters. Empire gives it 4 stars. Mind you, it gave xXx three stars...

"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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With a lot of the casting now announced, I believe the wild card for this film is Foster.  Known more for his emotional scenes the action scenes one wonders can he deliver a Bond film.  I know many times second units handle the action scenes, but it is his hand at the helm, we will have to see.

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I know this is a really old thread, but I'm re-activating it coz I watched Stranger Than Fiction last night and thought it was fantastic piece of work. I was very surprised to see it was a Marc Forster movie. Reading the posts on this threasd, i can see I am not alone however in wondering exactly why he was chosen to direct QOS.
I'm not going to knock his craf, he's good at what he does; and if QOS had been about the development of 007s psyche and a relationship with Camille and/or Mathis / Felix, well, he would have had his uses.
But if the producers hired him to this effect (esp given the great critical response to all the "emotion" in CR) then it really begs the question: why did they saddle him with a script that panders to chases and fights and leaves precious little room to develop the stuff the director's good at.
Learning this now, I think Forster was a very, very bad move by MGW and BB, not because he's a bad director (he isn't) but because he wasn't able (or allowed?) to stamp his own mark on the franchise.
I think he either 1. let the 2nd unit take all the glory and forgot he had a job to do as well!
or 2. realised he had an impossible job to do with the script and said "balls to it"

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chrisno1 wrote:

Learning this now, I think Forster was a very, very bad move by MGW and BB, not because he's a bad director (he isn't) but because he wasn't able (or allowed?) to stamp his own mark on the franchise.
I think he either 1. let the 2nd unit take all the glory and forgot he had a job to do as well!
or 2. realised he had an impossible job to do with the script and said "balls to it"

The problem is that I don't think he's a versatile director. In fact, I don't know if he is even all that talented.  I loved Monster's Ball, and on that basis, I think he does have some talent. However while I did enjoy Stranger Than Fiction, I never saw the spark of brilliance in it that others have. Finding Neverland is a film (along with QOS) which makes me question his talent, as IMO it's a superficial and badly executed film which presents it as a 'family drama', but which instead of delighting me, offended me instead. I never saw any evidence that he was appropiate for a Bond film, and I would be shocked if he's rehired.

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I'd give you your point re: Finding Neverland, which I thought was awful; but perhaps the problem is still with the screenplays. Neverland is a pretty mawkish subject; both Monster's Ball and Stranger Than Fiction I thought have very strong storylines, allowing us to see the effect people's lives have on others. The characters grow and develop in mature ways. Didn't happen in Neverland.... wasn't ever likely too in QOS

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I can only agree. What I found about both S Than Fiction and The Kite Runner is that while not bad exactly, I simply stopped caring about an hour in. It was just one damn scene after another. It didn't bring me along.

Then again, we don't talk about Forster, everyone talks about that Bourne second unit guy whose name escapes me, and not in a good way. Cos the film is so action packed, it's all about him and other than that it's only the distinctive cinematography that catches attention.

On top of all that, Forster complained he didn't have enough time (half as much as necessary) to edit the film to his satisfaction.

I think Mickey and Babs were overwhelmed by the critical response to Casino Royale and wanted a big name quality director who could carry on that success, when Martin Campbell turned down the chance to return.

"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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i just hope he brings back the traditional characters monypenny q etc and gadgets of course otherwise i think ill loose interest in 007 altogether ajb007/crap

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I should of known QOS was going to be Badly shot from the opening scene, the lake is at an angle. Breaking one of the basic photographic rules,after all all the water would run to one side of the lake. ajb007/lol

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I think you guys have hit the nail very close to the head.
I liked Quantum of Solace. All in all, I thought it was a solid entry, despite one serious flaw: it was top heavy on action.  The film has way too much action at the beginning (to the point where I start to feel a bit bored). And then, from the scene right after the boat chase, it starts being a memorable film with some truly excellent moments. The impression I get is that the producers wanted to have their cake and eat it (high octane action as well as depth of character)  so they saddled Forster with a big-name second-unit director.
The result is a wealth of action footage for which the director has no real use, and which he wants to get out of the way so he can start telling his story.

I think the film would have been vastly improved with two slight changes, intended to lighten the action load:

1. A different type of PTS (i.e. remove the car-chase, and have Bond drive down the Italian peninsula, enjoying the gorgeous views, maybe exchanging seductive glances with some girl in a sports car in the manner of the OHMSS opening, and then deciding to be the mature professional and not chase the girl...). In other words, focus more on sexiness, luxurious views and ironic character development and less on mind-numbing speed and car damage. This would have the advantage of increasing the impact of the next two actions sequences (Siena and Haiti).

2. Deleting the boat chase in which Bond compromises himself to save Camille. I thought that was pretty dumb and unnecessary. The whole sequence could have been removed (from right after Greene's "But we own whatever we find" to the "sea-sick" quip) with little or no damage to the storyline. Bond might have been shown spying on Greene's and Medrano's meeting from a safe distance. By then, we would have seen Camille leaving the premises waiting for a better chance to kill Medrano (and why would Greene risk Medrano's life and the whole deal by keeping her around?)
Then we would have had the cut to Bond walking away from the site and contacting Tanner.

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The top-heavy action thing is a carryover from CR, had the same issue IMO.  Thought Forster handled it better than Campbell, 2 cents.

Interesting reading again criticisms of QOS, the slightly less BO take somehow equating to it not being as good a film as CR (the writing was rushed, Forster's failings, etc.) has always seemed more fan projection than reality IMO.  For comparison, OHMSS originally lasted 6 months on the NY Times bestsellers list, YOLT - published right when cinematic Bond was blasting off - only 5 months.  Did Fleming botch his revenge tale?  Why didn't it do better business than OHMSS, and build on that story's (and EON's early) success?  I think it's simply, in general and with no scientific basis whatsoever, folks prefer romance over revenge.  I'm glad Fleming wrote, and EON filmed, both as well as they did.

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