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zaphod wrote:

Good for you if you find a lot to enjoy in it, but for me it is nowhere near the flawed but interesting LTK.

Oh no, LTK is a million times better than QOS- I just mean they're both films that had more or less everything against them, and they still turned out well!

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zaphod wrote:
chrisisall wrote:
hoppimike wrote:

Overall, I loved QoS.
I think it holds its own as a strong, imaginative, vibrant, visually stunning and polished entry in the Bond series.

Absolute agreement here.
It's the LTK of the 21st. ajb007/martini

For me it's TMWTGG of the 21st Century. Weak plot ( you are going to pay more for water...)
Plain Bond girl (Olga forgethername- yes she is that dull) A henchman who does nothing (Elviswasted opportunity) A villain less intimidating than my Accountant. Blink and you'll miss the one potential spot of glamour (Fields) I could go on but you get the point. I have really tried to like it, heaven knows I have wasted enough time watching it. Good for you if you find a lot to enjoy in it, but for me it is nowhere near the flawed but interesting LTK.

It's a mix of LTK and TMWTGG to me... and that's why it's such a great film to me.  It just really had everything going for it from good emotional core to great action sequences to a great villain.  But then, unlike you I also have TMWTGG in my top 5... so saying it's like TMWTGG is a massive compliment in my eyes.

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Kabraxal wrote:
zaphod wrote:
chrisisall wrote:

Absolute agreement here.
It's the LTK of the 21st. ajb007/martini

For me it's TMWTGG of the 21st Century. Weak plot ( you are going to pay more for water...)
Plain Bond girl (Olga forgethername- yes she is that dull) A henchman who does nothing (Elviswasted opportunity) A villain less intimidating than my Accountant. Blink and you'll miss the one potential spot of glamour (Fields) I could go on but you get the point. I have really tried to like it, heaven knows I have wasted enough time watching it. Good for you if you find a lot to enjoy in it, but for me it is nowhere near the flawed but interesting LTK.

It's a mix of LTK and TMWTGG to me... and that's why it's such a great film to me.  It just really had everything going for it from good emotional core to great action sequences to a great villain.  But then, unlike you I also have TMWTGG in my top 5... so saying it's like TMWTGG is a massive compliment in my eyes.

I know, I meant it as a slur, as it only occurred to me after posting that TMWTGG has its fans, and that some people actually like it. So my intended slur backfired. No offence intended. ajb007/bond

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zaphod wrote:

it only occurred to me after posting that TMWTGG has its fans, and that some people actually like it

I don't understand how, if one likes ANY of Moore's movies, one cannot like TMWTGG. He's in top form, and the flick is flat out fun.

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chrisisall wrote:
zaphod wrote:

it only occurred to me after posting that TMWTGG has its fans, and that some people actually like it

I don't understand how, if one likes ANY of Moore's movies, one cannot like TMWTGG. He's in top form, and the flick is flat out fun.

Hole in one. I don't like any of the Moore movies.  ajb007/bond

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zaphod wrote:
chrisisall wrote:
zaphod wrote:

it only occurred to me after posting that TMWTGG has its fans, and that some people actually like it

I don't understand how, if one likes ANY of Moore's movies, one cannot like TMWTGG. He's in top form, and the flick is flat out fun.

Hole in one. I don't like any of the Moore movies.  ajb007/bond

You are consistent, sir! ajb007/martini

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Not so easily pleased as a rule, no. I just think the film is better than its detractors give it credit for. Not flawless. But a great addition to the series...
And yes it's a happy life.



zaphod wrote:
Harry Palmer wrote:

I love QoS. Having seen it some 12 times by now I can safely say it's one of my top 5.
The plot makes perfect sense to me and the supposedly emotional parts don't bother me at all. In fact, I think the whole revenge/going rogue thing is misdirection. And when Bond says "I never left" he's absolutely serious.

Two criticisms I have:
1. the opening half-hour has one chase/action sequence too many. The rhythms are wrong and should have been better paced. I would have started with a more sedate PTS and then hit the action with the footchase in Siena.
2. The boat-chase is kind of lame, and uneconomical. I would cut it out.

Everything else is near-perfect for me. Including the villain. He may not be as threatening as the classic villains, but his slimy attitude and arrogance work.

good for you that you are so easily pleased...recipe for a happy life I think ajb007/bond

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Main issue with QoS other than it not being entertaining & druglike sleep inducing..was that its a crap revenge movie. LTK was a great revenge movie DAF was not. The movie starts and nothing happens to Mr. White that we see..the guy that fooled Vesper making her look like a stupid easily tricked woman is just arrested...and Quantum is introduced and he gets no revenge other than for Fields who we had no time to even know. I always care about what happens in a Bond film...I didn't care in this one.

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DelicatessenInSteel wrote:

Main issue with QoS other than it not being entertaining & druglike sleep inducing..was that its a crap revenge movie. LTK was a great revenge movie DAF was not. The movie starts and nothing happens to Mr. White that we see..the guy that fooled Vesper making her look like a stupid easily tricked woman is just arrested...and Quantum is introduced and he gets no revenge other than for Fields who we had no time to even know. I always care about what happens in a Bond film...I didn't care in this one.

I'm not sure you've watched the film properly then...to say he doesn't get revenge is wrong....perhaps its not 'revenge' in a way you understand, its more 'closure'....

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Sir Miles wrote:

I'm not sure you've watched the film properly then...to say he doesn't get revenge is wrong....perhaps its not 'revenge' in a way you understand, its more 'closure'....

Pay the Deliguy no mind in this matter, Sir Miles.

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Maybe some of you know him, but the reviews from Calvin Dyson are very good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRvVc8QfCto
Also Donpfeff is very good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a52NVv888k

But I really like QoS, maybe because I don't mind that it's fast, maybe it's my age, I'm 14.
Only M was used to much.

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Quantum of solace was on channel five recently.
I have to say I’m re-evaluating this film Up now.
some of the sequences are totally outstandingly conceived shot, and executed with an incredible eye for visual composition,
It will never be my favourite , due to its violent tonality and lack of hummer,
But it gets better every time I watch it.

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salt _ 2000 wrote:

But it gets better every time I watch it.

I agree, Salt.

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I've come to the conclusion that QOS IS a better film than I first thought.  ajb007/wink

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Thunderpussy wrote:

I've come to the conclusion that QOS IS a better film than I first thought.  ajb007/wink

Add me to that bandwagon.

"Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."

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You've all seen the light!!  ajb007/lol  ajb007/martini

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ajb007/lol  Now I didn't say it had made my top five.  ajb007/wink
But it was undeserving of some of the bile I directed at it.  ajb007/biggrin

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Thunderpussy wrote:

ajb007/lol  Now I didn't say it had made my top five.  ajb007/wink
But it was undeserving of some of the bile I directed at it.  ajb007/biggrin

Not in my top five either, but it's my go-to Bond movie for a quick shot of Doubleohdreneline. ajb007/lol

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DelicatessenInSteel wrote:

Main issue with QoS other than it not being entertaining & druglike sleep inducing..was that its a crap revenge movie. LTK was a great revenge movie DAF was not. The movie starts and nothing happens to Mr. White that we see..the guy that fooled Vesper making her look like a stupid easily tricked woman is just arrested...and Quantum is introduced and he gets no revenge other than for Fields who we had no time to even know. I always care about what happens in a Bond film...I didn't care in this one.

But it's not a revenge movie. The revenge plot is misdirection. It's the temptation Bond has to overcome on his way to becoming the professional M wants him to be. I actually believe him when he tells M "I never left".

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He never left, he was just learning....? I can see that I guess.

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It's taken many years and many,many viewings but I've come to really like QOS. After years of
Ranting here  ajb007/lol . Although I put the reason down to going back and reading the Fleming novels.
Which was what many had suggested I should do at the time ( but I knew better )  ajb007/biggrin . When I
think of the arguments I had with other members, I feel somewhat foolish, So my advice to anyone
Is get back to the books and forget what the movies have taught you about Bond, the real Bond
character is there in the pages of those fantastic stories.
   Hence why QOS has gradually climbed up my list of favourite Bond films, because from going back
and reading the Books. I can see that Daniel Craig is playing Bond as close as any actor so far has gotten.
Timothy Dalton and Sean Connery are great but for me Craig has captured the rawness of the " blunt
instrument " of Fleming's Bond.
  This month I'm reading FYEO, already read the first three stories and I can easily picture Craig as the
hardened naval officer, especially in FYEO, with Bond in camouflage tracking through the woods to
Assassinate a Cuban mobster.
    So my new review of QOS is that apart from a few " movie making " styles that wouldn't be my first
Choice. It's a great stab at a modern,contemporary take on a  much loved hero. ajb007/martini

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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And once again I'm proved right...who'd a thunk it  ajb007/wink  ajb007/biggrin

Now...about the title song  ajb007/shifty

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Sir Miles wrote :

Now...about the title song   ajb007/shifty

Well no ones Infalible.  ajb007/biggrin   ajb007/lol

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Sir Miles wrote :

Now...about the title song   ajb007/shifty

Well no ones Infalible.  ajb007/biggrin   ajb007/lol

It's not bad if you take out the vocals and rearrange the music.

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Weve got QOS on   TV tonight 9pm ITV  ajb007/smile

By the way, did I tell you,  I was       "Mad"?