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Nice work, Loeff. Still trying to find a 2 disc edition myself. So far I've only been able to find the single disc edition. I saw an ad claiming that one of the local music store chains is selling a 2 disc edition(Exclusive to Musica the ad claims) so hopefully I'll get my hands on it soon.

It's annoying that I'm buying the DVD knowing that it's really only a placeholder until the all singing and dancing version comes out at Bond 23 time, but so be it.

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hackett wrote:

Still (it's my seventh viewing) I am totally comfortable with the pace of the film.
I believe the humour is bang up to date and the updates from the early Bond films takes the franchise to new heights.
Roll on Bond 23

I completely agree about the pace of the film; I didn't mind it myself, but I can completely understand and see how it tends to alienate a segment of the audience.  While I would have loved to have seen a moment here or there 'breathe' a bit more (for lack of a better expression), I understand that the film, like Bond himself, was on a mission.

I agree about the humour---I should have put a paragraph in there about that!---which I found to be absolutely spot-on.  The "teachers on sabbatical who've just won the lottery" line, Mathis in the first scene with Fields ("I think she has handcuffs."  "You hope so," Bond retorts)...great stuff, and character-based, rather than the broad, Dinner Theatre BondTM to which the series has occasionally descended.

A great point!  ajb007/cheers

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Well-reviewed, Loeff! It's interesting to hear how the hand-held style holds up in the smaller format. While you do say some may not take to the film's style, you've certainly encapsulated the director's POV into a good assesment regarding the film's reasoning. Sad to hear about the lack of features. My personal opinion is that for such a departure from the Bond franchise, this DVD would be the one that most benefits from in-depth documentaries of the film.

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I appreciate that a lot, DH, since I know all too well that you weren't particularly fond of the picture  ajb007/wink  What I find fascinating---and frustrating, in equal measure---about artists like Forster is their unlimited capacity to confound expectations.  I admire his work, and his effort...but I'm also glad to hear he isn't interested in doing the next one  ajb007/biggrin

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Here is my review of the DVD, copied over from my blog.

The DVD release of Quantum of Solace has hit the shelves this week, and here are some thoughts about it – I will not go over the plot of the film, but merely comment on various aspects of the DVD.

The film has been released in both single disc and 2 disc DVD editions. Here in South Africa, the 2 disc DVD would appear to be exclusively available at Musica stores, while all others are only stocking the 1 disc release. Disc 1 (in both versions) includes the film itself and a music video, plus two trailers. The picture and sound quality would appear to be up to standard, and the menus are quite nifty, incorporating the MI6 computer interface design seen in the film. Somewhat disappointing is the low level of animation in the menus, especially the scene selections.

The 2 disc release, by Bond standards, is still somewhat bare-bones. For starters, it lacks an audio commentary, which is a staple of all the previous Bond films’ DVD releases. However, like Casino Royale, whose initial DVD release also didn’t include commentary, Quantum will most likely be re-released in a deluxe edition when the next Bond film comes out.

The documentary features on the DVD are an adequate, but not really in depth look at the production. These featurettes are very promotional in style, and offer only a glimpse of the making of the film. Compared to the making-of material on the Lord of the Rings 4 disc sets for instance, these featurettes pale in comparison. The best feature in my view is perhaps the Crew Files – short snippets concerning over 30 members of the crew, which give an idea of their functions on the production. As a film student, and someone who is very interested in how films are put together, this is the most interesting feature, as it encompasses a wide range of issues concerning the making of the film.

As a DVD set, the 2-disc special edition of Quantum of Solace is a little disappointing, but you can be pretty sure that a souped-up version is waiting a couple of years down the line. Still, the primary reason for buying the DVD is to watch the film, and it is great to be able to enjoy the latest Bond offering from the comfort of your favourite sofa.

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emtiem wrote:

I must admit that I didn't even bother pre-ordering it. It's just such a lack-lustre film ajb007/frown And the extras look pretty insulting, to tell you the truth.

Well, I got it for "completist" sake, and it sat on my coffee table for 4 days before I decided I was bored enough to rip off the celophane. 

On second viewing, with the luxury of rewinding it to try and make some sense out of the bits I thought I had missed (I hadn't), I have to say I disliked it even more.  Though I passed it as a decent enough action film on first viewing, I'm now of the opinion that it's just a really crap film, period.

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QoS will be out tomorrow in Germany.
My DVD copy is on the way from Amazon, I sincerely hope, that I'll receive the good version of that movie and not the "dog sh*t on a paper plate" version.

Loeffs, how did you manage to receive both the good version: In the cinema and on DVD?

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Bondtoys wrote:

Loeffs, how did you manage to receive both the good version: In the cinema and on DVD?

I'm sure it was through that magical portal of "perception" ajb007/wink

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wait a minute! Do you imply, that Loeffs may have perception issues? ajb007/rolleyes

That would be another explanation, why I have only seen the dsoapp* version

* dog s**t on a paper plate (Loeffs, we should use this in the glossary ajb007/cheers)

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Hmmm... the UK dvd gets a DTS track, but other countries do not apparently. Nice going ajb007/mad  (or is that the secret way to plug Blu-ray ?).

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Bondtoys wrote:

wait a minute! Do you imply, that Loeffs may have perception issues? ajb007/rolleyes

That would be another explanation, why I have only seen the dsoapp* version

* dog s**t on a paper plate (Loeffs, we should use this in the glossary ajb007/cheers)

Don't know about a 'magical portal of perception'...last time I looked through one of those, I ended up trapped inside the grooves of a Queen LP for hours  ajb007/amazed

To answer your question, Bondtoys...what can I tell you?  When you flip a coin, there's a 50/50 chance it'll come up a given way---still, there's no way to guarantee that you won't get the same outcome two times in a row  ajb007/cool  Chances are, the next three guys on the list got the "Dog S**t On A Paper Plate" version of the film. 

Perhaps an unusually large number of the DSOAPP edition* got shipped to Scotland  ajb007/crap  Too bad, that.  So much in life is beyond one's control; it calls for a particularly pragmatic brand of philosophy...

* I think you're right about the glossary, my friend.  I think I'll put it in  ajb007/biggrin

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Loeffelholz wrote:

Don't know about a 'magical portal of perception'...last time I looked through one of those, I ended up trapped inside the grooves of a Queen LP for hours  ajb007/amazed

Nothing wrong with that. ajb007/cheers Which album was it? ajb007/biggrin

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Dan Same wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:

Don't know about a 'magical portal of perception'...last time I looked through one of those, I ended up trapped inside the grooves of a Queen LP for hours  ajb007/amazed

Nothing wrong with that. ajb007/cheers Which album was it? ajb007/biggrin

The Game.  It was 1981.  I was in Zaragoza, Spain, and somewhat 'experimentally inclined' when it came to things such as hashish.  I've never heard that record the same way since.  It took my friend and I two hours to get down the stairs in his apartment building...and then, outside, on the street, we were extra late meeting up with our friends, because we were sinking up to our ankles in the concrete sidewalk.

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I have received my copy today and rewatched QoS.

With the possibility to move back to repeat certain details, the movie feels a bit better.

I also agree, that the shaky cam is a bit better on the smaller screen.

What bothered me in the movie and is bothering me even more on DVD are the fonds of the location titles, terrible! For the first time, I realized some 007-worthy notes on Arnold's score and I could enjoy the car chase a little (but only a little).

But the movie left me absolutely cold and bored back. I even stopped the movie to get some coffee twice and had not hurry to go back.

On DVD, I have to say, that the plot appears to be even thinner compared to the time, that I have seen the movie in the cinema.
The only thing, that I wanted to see more from was agent Fields, unfortunately her makeup and styling at the party has been absolutely terrible!

To reply 2 questions:
Yes, the waitress in the dune hotel wore clearly pink underwear and the boat trick has been caused by Bond applying a hook on the villain's rubber boat and then throwing the attached anchor.

Last edited by Higgins (28th Mar 2009 09:57)

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Bondtoys wrote:

To reply 2 questions:
Yes, the waitress in the dune hotel wore clearly pink underwear

How can one not love the advancement of technology?  ajb007/biggrin

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Loeffelholz wrote:
Bondtoys wrote:

To reply 2 questions:
Yes, the waitress in the dune hotel wore clearly pink underwear

How can one not love the advancement of technology?  ajb007/biggrin

I know, that nobody will believe me, but pausing was NOT necessary to find this out

But for verification, I went back with extreme slowmo, just to make sure, that AJB remains to be the accurate source that is. ajb007/embarrassed

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Bondtoys wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:
Bondtoys wrote:

To reply 2 questions:
Yes, the waitress in the dune hotel wore clearly pink underwear

How can one not love the advancement of technology?  ajb007/biggrin

I know, that nobody will believe me, but pausing was NOT necessary to find this out ajb007/embarrassed

Of course not!  It's simply a matter of focus and concentration...  ajb007/shifty  ajb007/biggrin  ajb007/lol

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Loeffs, my brother in mind ajb007/biggrin ajb007/cheers ajb007/biggrin

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My brother and I picked up the QoS BluRay today and just got thru watching it. My opinion of the film while watching it at home pretty much matched my original opinions: a quickly paced adventure not bogged down by an overly complicated plot or too much unnecessary character development. Unlike CR, which got more tedious with each viewing for me, this one still seemed fresh and watchable.

Like most films released for the home video market, the picture is considerably brighter than what I remember at the movies; this, combined with watching it on a smaller screen calibrated to my personal liking made the previously jerky action sequences much easier to follow and helped to mitigate the extremely quick editing style. There are other advantages as well, like access to the MUTE button during that title song.

As to the presentation on BluRay, very solid with a couple of minor quibbles. The picture has nice depth, is ultra-sharp, hyper-detailed and really colorful, especially the quarry sequence during the PTS. Lots of little details also pop out all over the place, like the plane Bond and Camille are in slowly starting to tear apart as Bond makes his climb. The nighttime scenes, often a bane of home video, are very clear with nice, deep blacks, very good contrast and good delineation; there's no difficulty at all in picking out stuff in the foreground or background. Where the video falters ever so slightly, suprisingly enough, is during a few of the daytime scenes, like the aforementioned PTS, where a very visible layer of film grain is present, almost as if the sequence was shot with high-speed cameras (which it probably was, come to think of it) and extreme zoom lenses. There's also some surprising color banding and crushed detail in Bond and Camille's hair when Bond is cradling Camille as the hotel is blowing up around them. It's as if the people responsible for mastering the film had a hard time with the extreme contrast of colors during that little scene. Still, those two quibbles add up to maybe 1 minute of screen time and hardly detract from the picture's overall quality.

The sound on the BluRay is very punchy with some great bass, very nice positional audio (explosions happen all around you and bullets whiz by your head) and a good dialog track that is easy to understand and not overwhelmed by the other audio pyrotechnics.

The extras are, as already expected, somewhat sparse. Particularly disappointing is the omission of the much discussed alternate ending featuring Mr. White.

We picked up the BluRay at BestBuy as part of a 3-movie set (along with the LTK and MWTGG BluRays) for $59.99; I also had a $5 coupon so it worked out to about $18 a movie a movie which is a great deal for BluRays no matter how you cut it.

Overall, a solid addition to the fast growing Bond BluRay library that plays even better at home than on the big screen. This one will definitely get some more playtime.

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Well, I said in my review that it was hard not to be cynical about the lack of 'special' features in the initial DVD/Blu-Ray release...

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It's depressing to have one's cynicism rewarded so quickly  ajb007/mad

But yeah, you guessed it, they'll get my money...

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You know, Loeffs, I am blaming you having woken up sleeping dogs... ajb007/crap

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Bondtoys wrote:

I also agree, that the shaky cam is a bit better on the smaller screen.

I agree and actually, I noticed that the shaky cam was in fact only used when the audience was invited to feel as though part of the running action, in other words, when it was a close up of Bond running across the roof, then it was like you were actually participating in that - it would then cut back to wide shot, when you were not so 'close' to the action so to speak. On watching the film again, I was surprised at how little shaky cam was in fact used, especially as it was discussed and criticised a lot, for some reason I thought there was more.

Bondtoys wrote:

What bothered me in the movie and is bothering me even more on DVD are the fonds of the location titles, terrible!

I actually thought the fonts were used very cleverly. Especially the London one, as it seemed it was written into the pavement. The font type and style, I thought, represented the locations very well, and I am sure they were picked for specific reasons, rather than, 'oh that looks nice' ajb007/wink But my fascination with fonts perhaps makes these types of observations obsolete (My second job and passion is desk top publishing and fonts play a large part in setting the mood for a specific piece of writing, plus all the history that comes with the psychology of how fonts look and feel)

However, it is a shame that those of you who didn't like it in the cinema, don't like it* after a second (or even dare I say it, third) viewing, but that is the nature of this beast I guess.

* although there are a few exceptions to this rule, as some have in fact found more in favour after seeing it on DVD -

batester2005 wrote:

it is good to finally see so many people finding their 'Quantum of Solace' with this film!!!! ajb007/cool

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Bondtoys wrote:

You know, Loeffs, I am blaming you having woken up sleeping dogs... ajb007/crap

Yup.  Terrible thing, discussion.

Just the plain old DVD looks beautiful, a very impressive presentation of a very impressive Bond film.

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Lexi wrote:
Bondtoys wrote:

What bothered me in the movie and is bothering me even more on DVD are the fonds of the location titles, terrible!

I actually thought the fonts were used very cleverly. Especially the London one, as it seemed it was written into the pavement. The font type and style, I thought, represented the locations very well, and I am sure they were picked for specific reasons, rather than, 'oh that looks nice' ajb007/wink But my fascination with fonts perhaps makes these types of observations obsolete (My second job and passion is desk top publishing and fonts play a large part in setting the mood for a specific piece of writing, plus all the history that comes with the psychology of how fonts look and feel)

I'm with you there, Lex.  I enjoyed the fonts---their various styles, and means of presentation.  The appearance of the word 'London', on the rainy street, was particularly clever and effective, IMNO.

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blueman wrote:
Bondtoys wrote:

You know, Loeffs, I am blaming you having woken up sleeping dogs... ajb007/crap

Yup.  Terrible thing, discussion.
.

I am pretty sure that Loeffs got the irony in my comment ajb007/rolleyes

Re. The fonts, I have been more thinking about the Haiti and Bolivia titles, which appeared to me to be out of the Bonanza series...

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