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Topic: AR7 Explorer rifle

Build myself an AR-7 Explorer rifle (non-firing to keep it legal).
Hope you like it ajb007/bond
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Stock and magazine are original, other components I build myself.

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Very nice - why don't you make a silencer to go with it too.
Check with Ed - he made one for his AR7
Thanks for sharing

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really nice how did you get one, ii would love one.

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Nice.  It looks like a Charter Arms with a custom painted stock.

DG

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The original rifle was made by Armalite.

Charter Arms is one of maybe three companies that have produced the rifle over the years. "Explorer" was strictly a Charter Arms designation.

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Yep, Armalite was the original manufacturer and it's what appeared in FRWL.  The trick is finding a vintage Armalite with the correct hard to find reddish brown stock.  Ed Magianni has an original Armalite with the correct stock.  I was lucky enough to just get one myself.  When it arrives, I'll post pictures.  The one I have presently is from AR-7 Industries.  I was lucky enough to get mine when they were offering a faux wood grain stock which does not seem to be available anymore.  The look of the faux wood grain matches what we see Tilly Masterson carry in Goldfinger and what Bond has in his DBS in OHMSS.  In talking to Ed, there apparently was a real wood stock offered for the Armalite AR-7 at one time.  I've never seen one for sale.  The real wood stock version has to be the rarest variant if it indeed it exists. Due to the rarity we have both considered having them custom made.  Ed is of course the real expert in this area.

DG

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I recall the original AR7 pretty well since I have been a JB firearms fan since the age of ten, which was some time ago. I saw a couple of the reddish brown versions "back in the day",  but was too young to buy one back then and have never found one for sale since. There were not many made in the original version because they really did not work very well.

I would wager that it was James Bond who is responsible for the longevity of this firearm. One it's own merit it deserved to die years ago, and it was only with the later Charter Arms version that the rifle  actually worked fairly well.

As I remember the wood stock was only available for a year or so, and the original model was discontinued shortly thereafter.

Looking forward to the photos, DG!!!!

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Christof,
That is AB-SO-LUTLY AMAZING!!!!
I understand that real components were used but to fabricate the receiver yourself is amazing tribute to your modeling skills!!!

I was in the process of casting an AR-7 receiver in solid resin to then offer it to the Bond fans who cannot legally own this rifle. My plan was similar to yours in that the barrel, stock and magazine would be real items that would attach to the resin receiver.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/007-FRWL_AR-7Resin.jpg

I'm going to work on making the silencer and telescopic sight as well.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/5.jpg

In reference to both the telescopic sight and the mount used on the rifle… I have been researching this rifle for a VERY long time and have contacted several collectors and companies involved with the history and identification of rifle scopes and no one has been able to ID these particular parts. It may be possible that they were fabricated by Bert Luxford in the prop department. However, if anyone knows what they are please contact me!!!

I am familiar with the common 4X15 image moving Nitrogen filled scope made in Japan and used by Lazenby in OHMSS as well as the standard scope mount offered by Charter Arms for this rifle...but they are NOT what we seek.

Below are some interesting observations about this rifle from the 72-Page booklet I put together on the attaché’ case and its components….

Desmond inaccurately describes the AR-7 as a “Folding snipers rifle” as well as stating it was a .25 caliber instead of the correct .22 short round.  He also points to the rear barrel of the rifle and incorrectly identifies it as an infra red telescopic sight.

We never see or hear any mention of the silencer or scope mount. I suppose, in our imagination, they too were stored in that stock.

It is very possible that originally another survival rifle, at the time also offered by Armalite, may have been slated for use by 007. This was the U.S. Air Force M6 “Scout” survival rifle. The original “Scout” made by Ithaca did indeed fold under the barrel.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/7.jpg

The reddish-brown ABS stock is the correct version which was used on the Costa Mesa Armalite AR-7. The same rifle (minus the silencer) was used by Tilly Masterson in GOLDFINGER. The rifle makes a cameo appearance in OHMSS, now neatly tucked into the Aston Martin glove compartment. The original rifle, apparently, wasn’t available as it was replaced by the extremely rare wooden version of the stock. The scope and silencer were also different from the ones used in both FRWL & GOLDFINGER.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/4.jpg

I originally thought the wooden stock was fabricated by the prop department until I saw a firearms book which showed photos of the stock in wood. I contacted the Technical Product Manager, Rick Clancy at Armalite and he confirmed there were very few made as well as a few other variants.

Getting back to the GOLDFINGER appearance….if you look closely you’ll see that the scope was attached to the rifle BACKWARDS!!!  If anyone has ever looked into the wrong end of a scope knows…this makes the object you’re looking at seem FURTHER away. (No wonder Tilly missed…LOL)

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/1.jpg

NOTE: A publicity still of Bond hiding among the rocks, presumably aiming the rifle at the SPECTRE helicopter, shows that the magazine inserted backwards!!!!  OOPS!!!

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/3.jpg

Another interesting tidbit is that Bond recognizes the case and even states “I had one just like it”
Obviously, Bond knows that it houses a rifle….but HOW could he???

Well, I recently ran across a blueprint from EON that shows the blueprints for this case with the AR-7 stored inside. Interestingly, the blueprint is marked FRWL. This leads me to believe that the case was originally slated for use in FRWL but was deceided to include it in the attache case.
Both the handle and locking mechanism on the case match those on the attache case.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/2.jpg

In closing, I again applaud Christof for his stunning replica and Donald Grant for his latest aquasition. Besides him, I only know of 2 others in the hands of all the Bond collectors I have met throughout the years. Truly a rare find that will enhance your collection!!!

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/6.jpg

Ed
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I would love one of these resin replicas.. I have the rifle stock .. so i would be very much interested in the barrel and the receiver... and silencer and sight very cool indeed.. would look great in my attache case with talc tin and gadgets. knifes and coin belts..

amazing work ... 10/10 great ... AMAZING !

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Exactly...I'm working on it.
Ed
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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/007_FRWL-AttachTalcumPowderTin.jpg

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thespyboys11 wrote:

Exactly...I'm working on it.
Ed
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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/007_FRWL-AttachTalcumPowderTin.jpg


That set my one ? ajb007/biggrin

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I think anyone in UK might have problems with customs ??? even if made in resin. anyone ?

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Ed,

.22 short? I thought these rifles were all chambered in .22 Long Rifle....

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OOOPS!!!! See...even I make mistakes...rarely but I do...LOL
Ed

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I would also like to offer the following:

1) The "telescopic sight" on Bond's AR7 has no provision for internal adjustment of the crosshairs. There is a small "wheel" under the front end of the scope which would appear to adjust for elevation. Without any way to make fine windage and elevation corrections, that scope would not preform in a satisfactory manner on ANY firearm. Older scopes without internal adjustments used a very bulky and  elaborate mount - which is not present on Bond's rifle. In any event, you would be unlikely to find one on a .22 rifle or airgun, which is what the small 3/4 size scope tube on Bond's rifle would be used on - centerfire rifles recoil enough to knock the guts out of such a small scope in very short order.

2) Taking into consideration the observations that the "Bond Scope" is not a viable arrangement for a real world firearm, then one can conclude it was made in the Prop shop.  It seems likely that some real firearms components were used in the construction of Bond's scope/mount. Since the scope itself has what appear to be focus adjustment rings at both ends, I would wager it is not a real riflescope.

3) No one has addressed it, but the scope could not be "infra red". The infra-red system available in the 1960's was a huge bulky affair. For an idea of what the system looked like , refer to  the THRUSH carbine on "The Man from UNCLE". It is mounted with a prop knock off of the '60s infra red system. It would not look good on the AR7!

Therefore I conclude that Bond's set-up was indeed a creation of the Prop Man. That is why after so many years of looking, no one can find a similiar real world sight system - it does not and never has existed, except in the movies!!!

Last edited by 7289 (13th Aug 2009 15:25)

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i'd just like to point out to people that although its technically just a steel tube, a barrel is classed roughly in the same way as a firearm, and UK citizens need licences to buy, sell, import, export and use them etc.

it could also be said that making replica relaistic firearms is illegal in the UK under the VCRA act 2006.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/pd … 038_en.pdf

turn to section 36, page 42 for details.

not trying to be a killjoy here, but be careful you dont go tripping up over any of the numerous gun laws people.

nice work by the way guys, im impressed.

what kinda casting method did you use on the ar-7 action ed? 1 piece or multiple piece mould?

Last edited by minigeff (13th Aug 2009 16:28)

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Alright, alright....so MAYBE it wouldn't have fit into the attache...LOL:))
Ed
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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/800px-ar7rifle.jpg

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thespyboys11 wrote:

Alright, alright....so MAYBE it wouldn't have fit into the attache...LOL:))
Ed
TheSpyBoys.com

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/800px-ar7rifle.jpg

What the #$%^  is that.


Ed is that piece in your collection ?  please explain.

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Leo,
That's just a quick photoshopped pic of an AR-7 with an Infra Red scope.....LOL
Fooled ya'
Ed
TheSpyBoys.com

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Thank you all for the positive feedback!
I am not fully satisfied with the result yet.  I want to sand the receiver and paint it again.  (The welds don't look nice.)
Edd's casting is great (but he should have told me before I went through all this trouble  ajb007/wink ).Can the magazine be taken out?  If not, it is not going to fit in the stock.
I can confirm that receiver and barrel are illegal in Belgium.  But replicas are not ajb007/tongue.

Last edited by Kleynen (13th Aug 2009 21:07)

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As 7289 stated, an infra-red scope (such as the one in my photo-shopped pic) was a VERY large setup. This particular version (sometimes referred to as the “Snooper Scope) was commonly used on the M2 carbine and was, in fact, the inspiration for the THRUSH rifle setup that was used in the TV show THE MAN FROM UNCLE, as previously stated.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/ThrushRifleInspiration.jpg

In fact, the first appearance of this on the show used that very same setup mounted on carbines as they pursued Napoleon Solo through the woods (The Iowa Scuba affair)
The prop department later made their own mockup version out of aluminum.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/ThrushRifle750.jpg

Another screen appearance was in the Sci-Fi film “THE OMEGA MAN” it was mounted atop a BAR rifle used by Charlton Heston to blast “Zombies” YAAA BABY!!!

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/OmegaMan_BAR.jpg

I agree that both the scope and the mount may have been a prop master’s creation.

In addressing the previous question…the resin replica was made using 2 piece silicone mold.

And, Christof, if I had told you about the resin casting we wouldn't have been priveledged to see the fine workmanship you did on your replica.

The magazine will be cast as a seperate unit so it can be stored in the stock.

Ed
TheSpyBoys.com

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Ed,  before I start building again.  Do you have any plans to cast a Gyrojet gun in the near future??

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Only AFTER you're doing building one...LOL
I will, however, send you some plans you might find useful.
Ed
TheSpyBoys

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thespyboys11 wrote:

Alright, alright....so MAYBE it wouldn't have fit into the attache...LOL:))
Ed
TheSpyBoys.com

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w29/TheSpyboys/BOND%20MISC/800px-ar7rifle.jpg


Now THAT is a scope!!!!

Bravo!!!!

ajb007/lol

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I told you Ed knew his stuff.

By the way Ed, I'm still waiting for my copy of the 72 page booklet on the FRWL Attache Case.  When will it be ready?

DG

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