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Having recently seen Inception (A good friend trusted me with the DVD from his 3 Disc set) I could see many aspects of the modern Batman in the art direction and style, and CR as well.

To me Mr Hardy could be a fantastic Bond  - after Mr Craig has had enough. But not before. To be fair though, I think it would be great if the man got his own franchise to play the lead character in. Mr C is Bond, Christian Bale has been a great Batman, and I am looking forward to see what Henry Cavill delivers as Superman.   

     As always, Hollywood is not static. Time will tell.

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Always amused by the "Tom Hardy's too short for Bond" nonsense. In LAYER CAKE he seems to be taller than Craig!!!

Fine actor, so why not?

Though like others on this thread, I wish EON had paid more attention to the Fleming physical description. But Craig has swayed me with his performance. No reason why Hardy shouldn't do the same.

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Oh, I have no doubt that Tom Hardy is a fine actor. I got my first introduction to Hardy in Star Trek: Nemesis, and I thought he played the Shinzon character pretty well. (Hardy also played a small role in Band of Brothers, but he wasn't on screen long enough for me to judge one way or the other). I haven't seen Layer Cake, but I did enjoy his performance in Tinker, Tailer, Soldier, Spy.

Would Hardy play a good Bond? I'm not sure. He might. But that doesn't change the fact that his appearance isn't much like the Bond that Fleming described.

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DEFIANT 74205 wrote:

Would Hardy play a good Bond? I'm not sure. He might. But that doesn't change the fact that his appearance isn't much like the Bond that Fleming described.

As a Fleming purist, I wish EON had been able to stick with the Fleming description.

Indeed of the six Bonds, if Fleming had to pick 'em out in a bar, he'd never tag Craig or Roger physically as his creation. And the most authentic - dark but not too big - Brosnan gets much derision from modern movie audiences for wimpishness.

And yet strangely, Fleming himself is reported as having advocated David Niven for the role of Bond. And there is NOTHING of the Fleming literary description physically in Niven...

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David Schofield wrote:
DEFIANT 74205 wrote:

Would Hardy play a good Bond? I'm not sure. He might. But that doesn't change the fact that his appearance isn't much like the Bond that Fleming described.

As a Fleming purist, I wish EON had been able to stick with the Fleming description.

Indeed of the six Bonds, if Fleming had to pick 'em out in a bar, he'd never tag Craig or Roger physically as his creation. And the most authentic - dark but not too big - Brosnan gets much derision from modern movie audiences for wimpishness.

And yet strangely, Fleming himself is reported as having advocated David Niven for the role of Bond. And there is NOTHING of the Fleming literary description physically in Niven...

Fleming advocated Niven because they were personal friends (Niven was
an officer in the army and first met Fleming at their gentlemen's club) and
because he had already seen his films.  I worked at a NATO base back in the '70s and knew a Royal Army colonel in our division who had know Niven, because he himself had worked in theatrical shows they put on for soldiers in the field during the war.  He became the theatrical director for the plays they put on at the NATO base theater while I was there as well.  He did not know Fleming, but Niven had talked about Fleming and what he thought when Fleming asked him if he though he could play Bond.  Niven loved his novels, but told him Bond was just too out of his range for him, and didn't think audiences would accept him in such a role.  He told him he wouldn't mind playing Tanner or Q, since there could be some humor involved, and it would also keep his shooting schedule short if he could play those roles.  He suggested having Robert Morley play M, though he did not say what Fleming thought of that.  He did suggest having Stewart Granger play Bond and Fleming apparently thought that was a great idea, but Granger was a little too old by then.  Anyway, Fleming's idea  of Niven playing Bond came more from his admiration of Niven as a friend and actor than as ideal casting.  Ironically, Niven took Bond's role in the '67 CR version out of his reverence for his old friend Fleming and because the script was to be just a comic farce - which Niven enjoyed doing.

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CmdrAtticus wrote:
David Schofield wrote:
DEFIANT 74205 wrote:

Would Hardy play a good Bond? I'm not sure. He might. But that doesn't change the fact that his appearance isn't much like the Bond that Fleming described.

As a Fleming purist, I wish EON had been able to stick with the Fleming description.

Indeed of the six Bonds, if Fleming had to pick 'em out in a bar, he'd never tag Craig or Roger physically as his creation. And the most authentic - dark but not too big - Brosnan gets much derision from modern movie audiences for wimpishness.

And yet strangely, Fleming himself is reported as having advocated David Niven for the role of Bond. And there is NOTHING of the Fleming literary description physically in Niven...

Fleming advocated Niven because they were personal friends (Niven was
an officer in the army and first met Fleming at their gentlemen's club) and
because he had already seen his films.  I worked at a NATO base back in the '70s and knew a Royal Army colonel in our division who had know Niven, because he himself had worked in theatrical shows they put on for soldiers in the field during the war.  He became the theatrical director for the plays they put on at the NATO base theater while I was there as well.  He did not know Fleming, but Niven had talked about Fleming and what he thought when Fleming asked him if he though he could play Bond.  Niven loved his novels, but told him Bond was just too out of his range for him, and didn't think audiences would accept him in such a role.  He told him he wouldn't mind playing Tanner or Q, since there could be some humor involved, and it would also keep his shooting schedule short if he could play those roles.  He suggested having Robert Morley play M, though he did not say what Fleming thought of that.  He did suggest having Stewart Granger play Bond and Fleming apparently thought that was a great idea, but Granger was a little too old by then.  Anyway, Fleming's idea  of Niven playing Bond came more from his admiration of Niven as a friend and actor than as ideal casting.  Ironically, Niven took Bond's role in the '67 CR version out of his reverence for his old friend Fleming and because the script was to be just a comic farce - which Niven enjoyed doing.

Happy to take this as it is.

However, the point I make still remains; Fleming describes Bond as dark haired, tall and ruggedly handsome. Yet he advocated Niven as a movie Bond (regardless of whether through friendship, admiration or that he might have thought he epitomised movie Bond). And yet we are dismayed at the image of Craig, joke at the idea of Hardy...

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Moore Than wrote:

Tom Hardy has stated "I would love to play Bond with Chris Nolan director or something, it would be awesome."

What is it they say about Papal enclaves?  He who enters as Pope leaves as Cardinal.

I think Hardy would be fine, but I reckon we'll not see any change for 5 or 6 years and anything could happen in the meantime.

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Well, Hardy might have been right after Layer Cake, playing a younger Bond. Too late now.

I think Hardy likes to mix it up a bit. He doesn't need to be tied to the Bond role, he's a big name star unlike all the other stars who have played Bond. Same with the Shame star, these actors like to experiment. Sure, Craig had some pedigree beforehand but is really using Bond as a springboard for his A-list movies and the chance to hang out with Spielburg et al imo.

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Tom Hardy as James Bond?

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IMO Hardy is the best candidate around. He has been great in whenever I've seen him (Tinker Tailor, Inception, Bronson, Layercake etc.), and I bet few people even recognised him in RocknRolla.
Plus, we know he'll be in tip-top shape.
As for the height issue, it can't be difficult to make him look taller, I don't think Craig looks short in his films even though he is reputedly much shorter than his predecessors.

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Hardy is a very talented actor. I could accept  and even like him as Bond in spite of his blond hair, relative shortness and unconventional looks - just tlike I did with Craig. But Craig`s face looks better than Hardy`s, Hardy has some feminine features while Craig looks tough. My favourite is still Michael Fassbender with Henry Cavill, Clive Standen and Max Brown as other possible candidates.

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Do you think Hardy is too old to play Bond now? If Bond 26 comes out in autumn 2022, the anniversary year, he will be 45. (Three years, however, would be a swift turnaround.)

if it's released in 2023 - four years being the current gap - he will be 46. Same age as Roger was when he started. However, that was a different time and Eon needed a safe bet which the former Saint provided.

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DavidJones wrote:

Do you think Hardy is too old to play Bond now? If Bond 26 comes out in autumn 2022, the anniversary year, he will be 45. (Three years, however, would be a swift turnaround.)

if it's released in 2023 - four years being the current gap - he will be 46. Same age as Roger was when he started. However, that was a different time and Eon needed a safe bet which the former Saint provided.

Roger was 45 when he did Live and Let Die and when it was released. And considering that Bond was not an action hero back then he could be 45 and have a decade to go. That isn't going to work today.

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DavidJones wrote:

Do you think Hardy is too old to play Bond now? If Bond 26 comes out in autumn 2022, the anniversary year, he will be 45. (Three years, however, would be a swift turnaround.)

if it's released in 2023 - four years being the current gap - he will be 46. Same age as Roger was when he started. However, that was a different time and Eon needed a safe bet which the former Saint provided.

People are aging much slower these days. Hardy doesn't look 41 at all.

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Sterling Archer wrote:
DavidJones wrote:

Do you think Hardy is too old to play Bond now? If Bond 26 comes out in autumn 2022, the anniversary year, he will be 45. (Three years, however, would be a swift turnaround.)

if it's released in 2023 - four years being the current gap - he will be 46. Same age as Roger was when he started. However, that was a different time and Eon needed a safe bet which the former Saint provided.

People are aging much slower these days. Hardy doesn't look 41 at all.

Huh? I thought he was older. He looks similar to a man I know in his late 40s.

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Sterling Archer wrote:

People are aging much slower these days. Hardy doesn't look 41 at all.

I agree. I thought he was only in his late 30's.

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I'll pass on Hardy as Bond; thanks. I don't think a Bond actor should ever be shorter than Craigger.

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Loeffelholz wrote:

I'll pass on Hardy as Bond; thanks. I don't think a Bond actor should ever be shorter than Craigger.

Would love to see him in a Bond film, either as another 00 or nemesis but not Bond. If my dream Netflix in period FRWL got made he would make a superb Grant (my real wish is an in period Moonraker)

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zaphod99 wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:

I'll pass on Hardy as Bond; thanks. I don't think a Bond actor should ever be shorter than Craigger.

Would love to see him in a Bond film, either as another 00 or nemesis but not Bond. If my dream Netflix in period FRWL got made he would make a superb Grant (my real wish is an in period Moonraker)

I have no idea who should be the next Bond, but Hardy would be the perfect Red Grant.

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Cheverian wrote:
zaphod99 wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:

I'll pass on Hardy as Bond; thanks. I don't think a Bond actor should ever be shorter than Craigger.

Would love to see him in a Bond film, either as another 00 or nemesis but not Bond. If my dream Netflix in period FRWL got made he would make a superb Grant (my real wish is an in period Moonraker)

I have no idea who should be the next Bond, but Hardy would be the perfect Red Grant.

Tom Cullen gets my vote

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I know he's famous due to Outlander, but Sam Heughan at age 38, would make a fine Bond after Craig.  ajb007/martini

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I don't think Heughan is too famous for Bond because of Outlander. He may be borderline too old, but he looks young for his age. I would like to see him as Bond  ajb007/bond

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Number24 wrote:

I don't think Heughan is too famous for Bond because of Outlander. He may be borderline too old, but he looks young for his age. I would like to see him as Bond  ajb007/bond

When I said famous, I meant with the ladies lol. My wife and her friends love him in Outlander. They are unaware of anything else he may have been in.

Craig was the same age in CR I believe.

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Enjoying Death wrote:
Number24 wrote:

I don't think Heughan is too famous for Bond because of Outlander. He may be borderline too old, but he looks young for his age. I would like to see him as Bond  ajb007/bond

When I said famous, I meant with the ladies lol. My wife and her friends love him in Outlander. They are unaware of anything else he may have been in.

Craig was the same age in CR I believe.

Craig was 38 in CR, the same age as Heughan is now. Unless there's a possibility of Craig dropping out for Bond 25, if Heughan becomes Bond he would be older than Craig is when he starts Bond. Good thing for Heughan is that he looks much younger.