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Looks great Abel! Glad you managed to grab the card holder 
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Ready willing and Abel 
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I must ask, in real life would a secret agent carry a card that identifies him or her as a secret agent?
While in the building, yes, but on the streets and even abroad?!
BTW this looks like a good quality prop.
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Joshua wrote:
I must ask, in real life would a secret agent carry a card that identifies him or her as a secret agent?
While in the building, yes, but on the streets and even abroad?!
BTW this looks like a good quality prop.
The answer is yes!
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Joshua wrote:
I must ask, in real life would a secret agent carry a card that identifies him or her as a secret agent?
While in the building, yes, but on the streets and even abroad?!
BTW this looks like a good quality prop.
Yes and no.
When inside the HQ Building, yes, he (or she) would be required to use the card to gain access and be required to wear it.
They would not take it abroad.
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Bond Collectors' Weekends wrote:
Joshua wrote:I must ask, in real life would a secret agent carry a card that identifies him or her as a secret agent?
While in the building, yes, but on the streets and even abroad?!
BTW this looks like a good quality prop.
The answer is yes!
Actually the answer is most definitely no.
Keep in mind that not all employees at a state's foreign intelligence agency are actually employed as foreign intelligence officers—the number of analysts for example far exceed the number of IOs. When posted locally, all employees (IOs, analysts, linguists etc) carry relatively similar identification, similar to Bond's fictional one, that identifies their employer but generally not their specific position. When posted in another country, generally embassies, IOs come in two types*, declared and undeclared. Declared IO will carry identification when in that foreign country that does identify them as an IO of a certain country—this practice is quite common. Next you have the undeclared IOs, the real "secret agents"... 
These individuals are generally placed in embassies around the world, without the host country knowing their true role, being passed off as regular diplomats while conducting covert intelligence gathering. These "spies" certainly do not carry around identification that labels them IOs, they use documentation that conforms to their diplomatic cover, whatever that may be.
*Okay yes there are also the more Bond-like clandestine IOs that are sent to gather intelligence in foreign counties as tourists, students, employees of a random company etc. These people definitely do not carry identification that label them IOs or even government employees.
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JTM this is what I think. Why bother having secret agents if they are going to carry identification that identifies them as secret agents? I used to work a lowly cleaner in an office block. I had to pick up a pass every time I went there and give it back when I left and sign for it in and out. I think SIS would do something similar so no one would carry ID or even have chance to lose it outside the building.
And a photo ID? Would it not be something biometric (is this the correct word?)
Like I already said the prop card is good and nothing is meant by my asking these questions as the card follows what is seen in the films, but I think in real life SIS would not do this.
Could an real secret agent be given documents like a passport and driving license etc which he could use under a different name but that name and details kept by SIS and given friendly services like the CIA if the agent was in their country so they alone could identify the agent? If so I think this identity would change every mission.
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Next up we're going to need a visitors badge 
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Nice one! We saw M's new card on his desk too. Looks like it has a hologram or something circular in the corner.
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state's foreign intelligence agency are actually employed as foreign intelligence officers—the number of analysts for example
I was just at a Washington party with numerous Agency personnel. They all have business cards--albeit not identifying them as with the Agency. 
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And now I have a great Q And M card in my collection to 
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Henrik, they look tagnificent
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Super job Henrik 
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Abel wrote:
And now I have a great Q And M card in my collection to
So none of you guys are going to offer the correct Bond 007 badge to the rest of us plebes?
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Impressed by the job ...
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HalfMonk HalfHitman wrote:
Abel wrote:And now I have a great Q And M card in my collection to
So none of you guys are going to offer the correct Bond 007 badge to the rest of us plebes?
Sure I have extras.
P.m. me if you're interested
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What a journey! Thanks to the forum members who stepped up and made it happen.
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Next lot:
My first B25 prop - and premature, but why not have fun now and we'll see how inaccurate it is later.
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Whoa, amazing catch!
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HalfMonk HalfHitman Thanks, mate!
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