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Returningson wrote:

and thanks for all of the compliments guys! That 260 lb returningson is dead. I buried his ass somewhere in the desert. That was my second confirmed kill I needed to attain my 00 status.  ajb007/lol

Hope you don't have the police after you...

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ajb007/lol

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Ens007 wrote:
David Schofield wrote:
walther p99 wrote:

Thought i would share this too, this is a pic of Daniel Craig after a trip to Vitamin Shoppe in NYC in 2011, the products he bought are NO-Xplode (a pre-work out supplement) and Cellmass (post work out creatine) both by BSN. I've  bought both a few times before and they are pretty solid products but there's definitely better stuff out there, and NO-Xplode tastes horrible. Do you guys use any (legal) supplements?

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4511/bbbbbbws.jpg

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You'll be telling us next you know better than DC on fitness supplements.

Oh, wait. You already have...  ajb007/rolleyes  REALLY looking forward to your summer photos.

Not sure if I've read this right (so apologies if I'm wrong), but this hasn't read particularly well to me ... Are you knocking Walther for what he's posted??

Yeah. Just reckon DC might have been advised better by his ££££/$$$s advisers than a Bond website poster's knowledge?

Could be wrong though, as you seem to believe?

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David Schofield wrote:

Yeah. Just reckon DC might have been advised better by his ££££/$$$s advisers than a Bond website poster's knowledge?

Could be wrong though, as you seem to believe?

ok, let me rephrase it, i have used products that have worked better for me personally then NO-Xplode and Cellmass. i apologize, didnt mean to make it seem like i know better then DC about what supplements to pick.

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David Schofield wrote:
Ens007 wrote:
David Schofield wrote:

You'll be telling us next you know better than DC on fitness supplements.

Oh, wait. You already have...  ajb007/rolleyes  REALLY looking forward to your summer photos.

Not sure if I've read this right (so apologies if I'm wrong), but this hasn't read particularly well to me ... Are you knocking Walther for what he's posted??

Yeah. Just reckon DC might have been advised better by his ££££/$$$s advisers than a Bond website poster's knowledge?

Could be wrong though, as you seem to believe?

Yes I do think you're wrong. There are plenty of better products on the market than those in the photo IMO, but bear in mind that most of the high end trainers are usually sponsored by a particular supplement company, therefore they promote their products to clients.  I've used both of these products before, but have found better results through using different brands & formula.  That is just opinion though as a humble little gym goer.

Not entirely sure that there's a need to try to belittle a fellow poster, but I'll leave that one there now.

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walther p99 wrote:
David Schofield wrote:

Yeah. Just reckon DC might have been advised better by his ££££/$$$s advisers than a Bond website poster's knowledge?

Could be wrong though, as you seem to believe?

ok, let me rephrase it, i have used products that have worked better for me personally then NO-Xplode and Cellmass. i apologize, didnt mean to make it seem like i know better then DC about what supplements to pick.

No probs.

And, of course, as should be emphasised to all the nutcases aiming for the "perfect DC body", age, lifestyle and available time, body type and mass, AS WELL as the support £££/$$$s team behind you, are extremely signtificant!

Don't want anyone being delusional, expecting goals they just cannot achieve. Nor, perish the thought, killing themlselves

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David Schofield wrote:
walther p99 wrote:
David Schofield wrote:

Yeah. Just reckon DC might have been advised better by his ££££/$$$s advisers than a Bond website poster's knowledge?

Could be wrong though, as you seem to believe?

ok, let me rephrase it, i have used products that have worked better for me personally then NO-Xplode and Cellmass. i apologize, didnt mean to make it seem like i know better then DC about what supplements to pick.

No probs.

And, of course, as should be emphasised to all the nutcases aiming for the "perfect DC body", age, lifestyle and available time, body type and mass, AS WELL as the support £££/$$$s team behind you, are extremely signtificant!

Don't want anyone being delusional, expecting goals they just cannot achieve. Nor, perish the thought, killing themlselves

Not forgetting their base genetics too.

Completely agree with what you've said here.

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My experience so far echos a lot of the comments above. When I wanted to get in shape I talked to a friend of mine who runs a cross fit gym, and he told me 70% of the look I was trying to achieve would cone from sticking to a 'good' diet ( lots of meat and greens, little or no bread, pasta or beer, very low sugar intake ), 20% would come from working out, and 10% would be down to genetics. The first month involved a lot of cardio in order to get body fat down to the 10% area that you need to show good ab definition, then after that its much more emphasis on weights and body weight work. The best piece of equipment I own is the pull up bar that you can hang in the doorway, which doubles as a base for various push ups and dips, and it only cost 20 bucks. One good online resource is Rusty Moore's 'Visual Impact Muscle Building'. You pay for online book downloads and he sends regular updates and tips. His whole philosiphy is about achieving what he calls the lean Hollywood look with 'tight' muscles, not big puffy body builder type mass - he often cites DC as an example. Also looking forward to seeing Mantis' new series on this on his site.

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Awesome achievement to lose all that weight! Well done you. Must have taken incredible will power!!

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http://s8.postimage.org/5lbg7219t/image.jpg

Used to box a bit and play a lot of rugby. Now at nearly 40 I just try to stay as fit as I can for as long as I can. I train in my garage. I have a power rack with a high and low pulley. Also a vertical leg press and about 300 kg of free weights. I have a dip bar attachment for the rack and a pull up bar. I do a 3 way split routine. Run 4 miles on the fifth day and then have a day off. Just added photo taken yesterday as there is nobody will take any notice of someone offering fitness tips if they're a wreck! For me personally the oy supplements I use and would recommend are. Fish oil and whey protein of any description! This year I need to eat less sugar and bin the cheeky smokes when I'm out on the piss. I like threads like this they're inspiring.... Especially stories like returningson's!

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Polynikes wrote:

http://s8.postimage.org/5lbg7219t/image.jpg

Used to box a bit and play a lot of rugby. Now at nearly 40 I just try to stay as fit as I can for as long as I can. I train in my garage. I have a power rack with a high and low pulley. Also a vertical leg press and about 300 kg of free weights. I have a dip bar attachment for the rack and a pull up bar. I do a 3 way split routine. Run 4 miles on the fifth day and then have a day off. Just added photo taken yesterday as there is nobody will take any notice of someone offering fitness tips if they're a wreck! For me personally the oy supplements I use and would recommend are. Fish oil and whey protein of any description! This year I need to eat less sugar and bin the cheeky smokes when I'm out on the piss. I like threads like this they're inspiring.... Especially stories like returningson's!

Impressive! and i agree that fish oil and whey are great supplements to use. whats your diet like?

Last edited by walther p99 (9th Feb 2013 20:38)

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Returningson wrote:

December 2008 (260 lbs)
http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i365/Travmax11/206518_1065236674935_548_n.jpg

August 2010 (150 lbs)
http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i365/Travmax11/44610_1563264125310_577734_n.jpg

these are 18 months apart but it took me less than that but these are the pics I have on hand.


WOW! That's one of the greatest transformations that I've seen. +1000 to your health ajb007/martini

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Thanks!  ajb007/martini

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I just wanted to add to the congratulations to returningson. A fantastic achievement.

I come from a very unhealthy family; my dad was 300 pounds when he was my age. We ate huge portions of food, lots of takeout, always had lots of dessert, and stayed in and watched TV from the time we got home from school/work until the time we went to bed. And we never played sports or were physically active. When I was 16 I was 145 pounds (5'9") but even at that weight I had a bit of a gut and a huge ass - and not an ounce of muscle. Thank god I had a teenage metabolism to counteract everything else.

When I was 17 we moved into an apartment building with a gym room. I tried working out there three nights a week for a year and although I got a little bit stronger I didn't see much physical change. But then my cousin visited, and this was on break from university where he was studying to become a gym teacher. He gave me a lot of guidance and after that I was able to lose the gut, the butt, and add 40 pounds (!) of muscle.

Because I knew that if I could make that change just about anyone could, I became a personal trainer to help people achieve what I could. I still train people part-time; every week I meet people who say that they are a prisoner of their genetics or schedules or age. It simply isn't true, like anything in life you must have a plan and it must be personal to you (think of trying to get a finance degree if you take all the philosophy courses that a friend did). No one's body is immune to science, but it has to be the *right* science for them. And then once they have the plan they MUST follow it :-)

Depending on whether I'm in maintenance mode or needing to improve something (such as coming back from an injury) I do either 3 or 4 one hour workouts a week. I don't use any supplements other than protein powder as it's difficult for me to get the minimum 100 grams of protein a day from food. A general rule about supplements is that they work best for people who need that tiny little edge to push them from great to exceptional. They won't turn a 145 pound 16 year old like I was into Daniel Craig, that comes from the work. A couple of the trainers that I work with use NO-Xplode and have had really good results from it but they're operating at a really high level where every little bit helps.

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Don't normally go for threads like these as they are usually full of competitive idiots who think they are arnie, or worse, just better than everyone else.

But have to say this thread is impressive (mostly).

Returningson, amazing accomplishment... I doff my cap in awe... And seems you've considered all the angles... Especially the Post-diet health.... The body isn't designed for bungee-weight changes.... Especially the heart, so losing quite so much needs to be (as you say ) when you're younger and take care afterwards. Gyms are great but you don't need one of you apply yourself properly. You are an objective lesson to all of us.  ajb007/martini

As regards scoffer, ignore him. He probably didn't mean anything but if he did it's irrelevant.

I was particularly interested in the supplement advice wp99, and your opinion (that there are better/cheaper products than DC's choice) is just that- an opinion! I take supplements and am a massive fan.... I box 2hrs and was finding my wrists were hurting a lot... The supplements I take now have strengthened the joints and improved flexibility to the point that I feel little now and am punching much much harder.

But I suspect it's all personal and some won't work for me or others... Hence hearing what works for you and others on here is particularly useful. I was also shocked to hear that some can wreck organs... Good warning...

Finally, for me it's all about motive. I work out 7hrs a week cos 2 yrs ago my mother died and over the 3 mths caring for her I put on 45lbs. After her death I vowed to get rid of it before my 53rd birthday which is in 6 mths.

I'm now down to 201lbs having lost abt 50lbs, and am stronger and fitter than I've ever been.
But I did (do) it for me.... I don't post pics of my abs or shoulders, I don't lecture others and I don't look down on those who for whatever reason arn't perfect.

The only competition is with yourself.... If you beat your own targets and objectives then that's what it's all about.

There are no prizes or accolades (apart from genuine well meaning congrats from fellow travelers when your efforts are clearly visible - oh and the odd compliment from the opposite sex ajb007/smile )

But there is the satisfaction of knowing only you could have done it.

Cheers paul

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thelordflasheart wrote:

I just wanted to add to the congratulations to returningson. A fantastic achievement.

I come from a very unhealthy family; my dad was 300 pounds when he was my age. We ate huge portions of food, lots of takeout, always had lots of dessert, and stayed in and watched TV from the time we got home from school/work until the time we went to bed. And we never played sports or were physically active. When I was 16 I was 145 pounds (5'9") but even at that weight I had a bit of a gut and a huge ass - and not an ounce of muscle. Thank god I had a teenage metabolism to counteract everything else.

When I was 17 we moved into an apartment building with a gym room. I tried working out there three nights a week for a year and although I got a little bit stronger I didn't see much physical change. But then my cousin visited, and this was on break from university where he was studying to become a gym teacher. He gave me a lot of guidance and after that I was able to lose the gut, the butt, and add 40 pounds (!) of muscle.

Because I knew that if I could make that change just about anyone could, I became a personal trainer to help people achieve what I could. I still train people part-time; every week I meet people who say that they are a prisoner of their genetics or schedules or age. It simply isn't true, like anything in life you must have a plan and it must be personal to you (think of trying to get a finance degree if you take all the philosophy courses that a friend did). No one's body is immune to science, but it has to be the *right* science for them. And then once they have the plan they MUST follow it :-)

Depending on whether I'm in maintenance mode or needing to improve something (such as coming back from an injury) I do either 3 or 4 one hour workouts a week. I don't use any supplements other than protein powder as it's difficult for me to get the minimum 100 grams of protein a day from food. A general rule about supplements is that they work best for people who need that tiny little edge to push them from great to exceptional. They won't turn a 145 pound 16 year old like I was into Daniel Craig, that comes from the work. A couple of the trainers that I work with use NO-Xplode and have had really good results from it but they're operating at a really high level where every little bit helps.

thanks alot for sharing this and congrats on improving your self physically! im sure your personal trainer knowledge could certainly come in handy here.

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Returningson, amazing work and good for you...I started a dedicated journey when I was 41 to get out of the "corporate executive atrophied body type" and work toward a more Bond-like body...mind you I say work toward because I know I will never have the body of Daniel Craig...but I do improve each year (as some of you have seen) and as long as I keep on this trend I don't mind the sacrifices and the 4:30 AM wake up calls....I always include the picture when I was 32 to remind myself that at 45 I can look better than I did at 32...

And David S., love the handicapping idea....!!!

http://s7.postimage.org/f3buc3muf/45david7.jpg

BTW, the below pic was taken at the end of the summer when I had upped my protein to a crazy level and more mass was put on...starting that regiment again next week....


http://s3.postimage.org/ehwqp4xov/tbeshrub2.jpg

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ke02eww wrote:

Don't normally go for threads like these as they are usually full of competitive idiots who think they are arnie, or worse, just better than everyone else.

But have to say this thread is impressive (mostly).

Returningson, amazing accomplishment... I doff my cap in awe... And seems you've considered all the angles... Especially the Post-diet health.... The body isn't designed for bungee-weight changes.... Especially the heart, so losing quite so much needs to be (as you say ) when you're younger and take care afterwards. Gyms are great but you don't need one of you apply yourself properly. You are an objective lesson to all of us.  ajb007/martini

As regards scoffer, ignore him. He probably didn't mean anything but if he did it's irrelevant.

I was particularly interested in the supplement advice wp99, and your opinion (that there are better/cheaper products than DC's choice) is just that- an opinion! I take supplements and am a massive fan.... I box 2hrs and was finding my wrists were hurting a lot... The supplements I take now have strengthened the joints and improved flexibility to the point that I feel little now and am punching much much harder.

But I suspect it's all personal and some won't work for me or others... Hence hearing what works for you and others on here is particularly useful. I was also shocked to hear that some can wreck organs... Good warning...

Finally, for me it's all about motive. I work out 7hrs a week cos 2 yrs ago my mother died and over the 3 mths caring for her I put on 45lbs. After her death I vowed to get rid of it before my 53rd birthday which is in 6 mths.

I'm now down to 201lbs having lost abt 50lbs, and am stronger and fitter than I've ever been.
But I did (do) it for me.... I don't post pics of my abs or shoulders, I don't lecture others and I don't look down on those who for whatever reason arn't perfect.

The only competition is with yourself.... If you beat your own targets and objectives then that's what it's all about.

There are no prizes or accolades (apart from genuine well meaning congrats from fellow travelers when your efforts are clearly visible - oh and the odd compliment from the opposite sex ajb007/smile )

But there is the satisfaction of knowing only you could have done it.

Cheers paul

congrats on losing 50 Ibs! whats your goal weight? and im glad you mentioned how alot of threads like this are filled with "competitive idiots" because i definitely dont want that, but rather a place for guidance, and positive reinforcement for those to reach their physical goals because it can be daunting at times.

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walther p99 wrote:
ke02eww wrote:

Don't normally go for threads like these as they are usually full of competitive idiots who think they are arnie, or worse, just better than everyone else.

But have to say this thread is impressive (mostly).

Returningson, amazing accomplishment... I doff my cap in awe... And seems you've considered all the angles... Especially the Post-diet health.... The body isn't designed for bungee-weight changes.... Especially the heart, so losing quite so much needs to be (as you say ) when you're younger and take care afterwards. Gyms are great but you don't need one of you apply yourself properly. You are an objective lesson to all of us.  ajb007/martini

As regards scoffer, ignore him. He probably didn't mean anything but if he did it's irrelevant.

I was particularly interested in the supplement advice wp99, and your opinion (that there are better/cheaper products than DC's choice) is just that- an opinion! I take supplements and am a massive fan.... I box 2hrs and was finding my wrists were hurting a lot... The supplements I take now have strengthened the joints and improved flexibility to the point that I feel little now and am punching much much harder.

But I suspect it's all personal and some won't work for me or others... Hence hearing what works for you and others on here is particularly useful. I was also shocked to hear that some can wreck organs... Good warning...

Finally, for me it's all about motive. I work out 7hrs a week cos 2 yrs ago my mother died and over the 3 mths caring for her I put on 45lbs. After her death I vowed to get rid of it before my 53rd birthday which is in 6 mths.

I'm now down to 201lbs having lost abt 50lbs, and am stronger and fitter than I've ever been.
But I did (do) it for me.... I don't post pics of my abs or shoulders, I don't lecture others and I don't look down on those who for whatever reason arn't perfect.

The only competition is with yourself.... If you beat your own targets and objectives then that's what it's all about.

There are no prizes or accolades (apart from genuine well meaning congrats from fellow travelers when your efforts are clearly visible - oh and the odd compliment from the opposite sex ajb007/smile )

But there is the satisfaction of knowing only you could have done it.

Cheers paul

congrats on losing 50 Ibs! whats your goal weight? and im glad you mentioned how alot of threads like this are filled with "competitive idiots" because i definitely dont want that, but rather a place for guidance, and positive reinforcement for those to reach their physical goals because it can be daunting at times.

Cheers.... I'm aiming for just under 200lbs - and swapping fat for muscle. So main aim now is the tummy - tyre deflating is the true target.

I'm 6th and heavy boned so don't think much below 190 is possible or smart.

And as I said, it's the advice/tips/experiences that I and most others will be after from this thread and you're already making a lot of progress.. Keep it up.

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The Mantis wrote:

Returningson, amazing work and good for you...I started a dedicated journey when I was 41 to get out of the "corporate executive atrophied body type" and work toward a more Bond-like body...mind you I say work toward because I know I will never have the body of Daniel Craig...but I do improve each year (as some of you have seen) and as long as I keep on this trend I don't mind the sacrifices and the 4:30 AM wake up calls....I always include the picture when I was 32 to remind myself that at 45 I can look better than I did at 32...

And David S., love the handicapping idea....!!!

http://s7.postimage.org/f3buc3muf/45david7.jpg

BTW, the below pic was taken at the end of the summer when I had upped my protein to a crazy level and more mass was put on...starting that regiment again next week....


http://s3.postimage.org/ehwqp4xov/tbeshrub2.jpg

As i told you on FB already, great turn around! you can immediately see the differences between the youngest pic and the current one, your face looks more defined and your arms are obviously bigger. whats your diet like?

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AWESOME! MANTIS is the MAN!

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Great thread and awesome accomplishments!!!

I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet.  I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight,  forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc

Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down

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welshboy78 wrote:

Great thread and awesome accomplishments!!!

I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet.  I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight,  forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc

Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down

so your current goal is to up your protein intake and cardio?

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welshboy78 wrote:

Great thread and awesome accomplishments!!!

I work out 4-5 days a week however always hit a plateau due to my diet.  I do find it hard to consume my 1-1.5 grams of Protein per kg of bodyweight,  forget to eat, dont feel like eating, forget packing my protein shakes before going to work etc

Going to get back into it this week and stock up on the Whey, Tuna and Chicken breasts! Im going to attempt more cardio this time around and get my body fat down

Welshboy, there is also the fact that not all protein is equal. Proteins have a bioavailability factor - think of it as somewhat similar to the glycemic index for carbs. For example, when you cook chicken - because no one eats chicken raw - you can destroy up to 40% of the protein in it. So depending on the labels of the food we eat - does it specify cooked or uncooked protein content? - many of us get even LESS protein than we think (one of the reasons why people plateau and then they think they've just reached some sort of natural limit that they have). However, an egg has 100% bioavailability - not matter how you cook it you get all 7 grams of protein (in a large egg).

Regarding getting body fat down cardio is not the most effective way. An average size man will burn roughly 100 calories when he runs a mile. But if you add 2 pounds of muscle to your body your metabolism increases so you will burn an extra 100 calories every day - just from having that extra two pounds of muscle. And that's whether you go to the gym or not, and not counting the exercises that you do with that muscle. If you feel that you're fine with where you are for muscle development then obviously that will change what you want to do, but 2 pounds of muscle takes up so little physical space I doubt you'd really see it.

Just my two cents...

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I agree about the cardio. I used to run at least every other day sometimes as far as 8 miles. I was 16 stone then. I had decent cv fitness but I found that it made me incredibly hungry and my calorie intake rocketed yo the extent that I must have been eating st least as much as I was burning thus no weight loss. Everybody's different and there are a lot of contrasting theories out there but I find lifting weights to be the best way to stay in shape for me . That being said I have never binned running it is still my favourite cv activity. Another issue I had when I ran frequently was tendon problems with my knees. It's a high impact activity especially if you're heavy! When I cut a bit of weight and reduced the frequency of the runs my knees got healthy again.

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