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FRWL is far from boring  ajb007/martini

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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I believe we've covered that in PMs, Cart.

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AC, I too apologise if you feel anything I wrote was patronising, it was never
My intention. Hence why I started my post with " I'm not being a smart arse "  ajb007/wink
I simply wanted to know if you'd read the book, as some fans love the films but
Haven't read the books.   ajb007/smile
I love the first four films ( with OHMSS)  as they are so close to the books,  because
I love the books.  ajb007/smile  once again, only my opinion, but  I feel they're  practically perfect !
( to quote Mary Poppins)  ajb007/lol

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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Everyday Life on AJB  ajb007/lol

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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I find it very hard to fault this film at all.  For many years it has been my absolute favourite (1st= with OHMSS).

Also, the original novel of FRWL is just superb.

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FRWL, alongside MR can be considered Fleming's greatest Works  ajb007/martini

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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002 wrote:

I find it very hard to fault this film at all.  For many years it has been my absolute favourite (1st= with OHMSS).

Also, the original novel of FRWL is just superb.

+1 ajb007/cheers

"Any of the opposition around..?"

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Absolutely_Cart wrote:

This reply is for Thunderpussy, Barbel and Blackleiter.

I read Casino Royale.  Really enjoyed it.  Film and book are two different mediums, and one cannot be directly translated to the other.  I can't speak of the FRWL book because I haven't read it, but I'm assuming Karim Bey (and the sections associated with him) have much greater significance in the book.

Books are great at telling stories with wide breadth, but movies specifically shine when taking isolated scenes and amplifying them.  They're naturally more minimalist.  That might be why the train section resonated more with me than the Karim Bey bits.  I'm assuming the FRWL book fleshes out Bey very well, but in the movie he's mostly just an cut-and-dry escort for Bond.

Objectivity and subjectivity.  It may be my opinion that there are numerous other films in the series that are more immersive and entertaining, but objectively speaking, From Russia With Love is the most influential and innovative entry next to Goldfinger.  It did represent a crucial moment for the series between the inexperience of Dr. No and the spiciness of Goldfinger.  Some could even view FRWL as the last stand before the films got progressively more silly.

I do feel like I'm being patronized a bit because I'm young.  I don't want to put down any one, but I always try to approach the series with an open mind.  I've seen every single movie with an open mind, and I don't decide to put any particular actor on a pedestal.  I love Craig, Dalton and Moore.  I like Brosnan, Connery and Lazenby.  I enjoy silly movies like Octopussy and I enjoy serious movies like Quantum of Solace.  And as I said before, I enjoy more grounded films like From Russia With Love.

Everything ages, and nothing is perfect of above all others forever.  I don't see anything wrong with viewing through both absolute and relative lenses.  So far, my opinion of FRWL has improved during my 2nd viewing and I would definitely like to watch it again sometime.  It might continue to rise up further, but while my opinions may differ, I've been more than fair in the way I've been going about assessing them.

I agree with my honorable friends TP, chris and Barbel. Any comments about your youth were made tongue-in-cheek, and I apologize if I offended you in any way. I think your opinions about the Bond films are always thoughtful and well-reasoned, even when I disagree, and certainly those opinions are as legitimate as those of us old-timers. I know you don't need me to tell you, but please do continue to express your opinions with the same candor, thoughtfulness and insight that you have demonstrated so far - they add immensely to this forum. (Plus you get extra credit for laying off the "Fat Connery" jokes! ajb007/lol)

"Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."

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It's always me who is the Target for the 'Young Jokes' on here  ajb007/crap  ajb007/lol

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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Indeed, it's always nice to have someone, you can give a clip round the ear to.  ajb007/lol
I'm sure AJB has the whole cross section of human life, from the young to the old
From sensible reasoned debate to Higgins.  ajb007/tongue  from people who have all the wrong
Opinons to ME !  ajb007/lol

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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Lets hope it stays that way  ajb007/biggrin  ajb007/cheers

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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Us young folks have to teach these old folks something about Bond  ajb007/lol joking 99.9999% of the members of AJB know more about James Bond than me, but I do like hearing what y'all have to say about the films, novels, and etc.  ajb007/smile

Top 10 Bond Films
1. Thunderball 2. FRWL 3. Casino Royale 4. TLD 5. OHMSS 6. SkyFall 7. GF 8. TSWLM 9. GE 10. FYEO

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ajb007/cheers  Absolutely.  ajb007/martini  I wouldn't say I'm the worlds greatest Bond fan , I leave that to
Others.  ajb007/wink  I've learned lots of stuff here on AJB,  I don't know the age of those
Who've enlightened me but I'm sure some were older and some younger.  ajb007/martini

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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In my Case it's 23  ajb007/lol

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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Reminds me of the old quote  ( If an atheist can quote the Bible)  ajb007/wink
" Age is no guarantee of Wisdom".  ajb007/martini , even Bond says something
Similar in Skyfall.

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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Thunderpussy wrote:

ajb007/cheers  Absolutely.  ajb007/martini  I wouldn't say I'm the worlds greatest Bond fan , I leave that to
Others.  ajb007/wink  I've learned lots of stuff here on AJB,  I don't know the age of those
Who've enlightened me but I'm sure some were older and some younger.  ajb007/martini

ajb007/cheers  ajb007/martini

Top 10 Bond Films
1. Thunderball 2. FRWL 3. Casino Royale 4. TLD 5. OHMSS 6. SkyFall 7. GF 8. TSWLM 9. GE 10. FYEO

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I have also learned some rather obscure Bond Information since joining AJB  ajb007/smile  ajb007/cheers

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AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

In my Case it's 23  ajb007/lol

23?!?!
That IS young!  ajb007/martini When I was 23 Return Of The Jedi was just about to come out. ajb007/cool

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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I'm 23.

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I feel very young I'm 19  ajb007/lol

Top 10 Bond Films
1. Thunderball 2. FRWL 3. Casino Royale 4. TLD 5. OHMSS 6. SkyFall 7. GF 8. TSWLM 9. GE 10. FYEO

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I was 21 again on Wednesday ajb007/smile Give or take twenty years!! ajb007/lol  ajb007/martini

"Any of the opposition around..?"

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Absolutely_Cart wrote:

I'm 23.

I have shoes older than you! ajb007/amazed

"Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."

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I'm only 22 but I write very old fashioned, hence
why so many think I'm much older.  ajb007/wink

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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Thunderpussy wrote:

I'm only 22

ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  thanks for that, TP, I needed a laugh!

(And I'm still younger than Moore was in AVTAK.... but it's my birthday soon and then I won't be!  ajb007/lol )

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Blackleiter wrote:
Absolutely_Cart wrote:

I'm 23.

I have shoes older than you! ajb007/amazed

hahah i guess they dont make em like they use to