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The Boffins at the AJB nerve centre, are working on a select
Band of " Dalton Guide Dogs"  to be used by those who can't see
How good he was.
  The dogs will quietly bark at great acting moments, and growl
When they hear the beginnings of a disparaging comment.  ajb007/wink
If there is no change in attitude then the dogs will pee on the
Nearest pair of gaudy trainers  !  ajb007/lol

“I remember the last thing my Nan said to me before she died.
‘What are you doing here with that hammer?’”..... Lee Mack.

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ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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Absolutely_Cart wrote:

http://i.imgur.com/2WS40st.jpg

That's the Dalton that Higgins sees! ajb007/lol

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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I did watch it again recently.  Unfortunately, my appreciation for it waned a little bit bit.  I totally agree with the direction it wanted to go into (a dark gritty cerebral) plot but the cast and acting was weak.  The villains didn't have much depth or originality.  Kara Milovy wasn't sexually objectified, but that aside, she was bland and her relationship with Bond wasn't very convincing.

The 2nd half of the movie gets interesting for sure, but the first half isn't very good.  They wanted to have the standard Bond formula (Moneypenny flirt, "one hour - better make that two") elements, but while these were well suited for Connery and Moore, they come out as plain awkward with Dalton.  License to Kill was a much better outlet for Dalton's darker take on Bond.

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LTK and TLD are two completely different films. TLD is a semi serious Bond film, which has the gadgets and car equivalent to previous films, with a more realistic plot, which results in realistically bland villains. LTK is a dark revenge film, that is toned down on gadgetry, but has a memorable Bond villain. They're both very good films though.

1.LTK  2.AVTAK  3.OP  4.FYEO  5.TND  6.LALD  7.GE  8.GF  9.TSWLM  10.SPECTRE  11.SF  12.MR 13.YOLT  14.TLD  15.CR (06)  16.TMWTGG  17.TB  18.FRWL  19.TWINE  20.OHMSS  21.DAF  22.DAD  23.QoS  24.NSNA  25.DN  26.CR (67)

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MilleniumForce wrote:

LTK and TLD are two completely different films. TLD is a semi serious Bond film, which has the gadgets and car equivalent to previous films, with a more realistic plot, which results in realistically bland villains. LTK is a dark revenge film, that is toned down on gadgetry, but has a memorable Bond villain. They're both very good films though.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/0c5ff1346a1548363f56405ffecf0a39/tumblr_n0u9aeI1lD1smt9e6o2_500.gif

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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Barbel wrote:
Asp9mm wrote:

  A huge problem for me is the very slow score.  They play the Bond theme so slowly in the action scenes that all tension is lost.  It's more suitably paced for a slow ice skating video, not a high speed fight on top of a Land Rover.  This fault is repeated in the music in pretty much all the action scenes.  It's not something I really noticed in the previous gazillion views, but somehow tonight it stood out and is just annoying me.  There was always something I couldn't put my finger on with this film, and now I know.

Disagree 100%, I love this score.

I have to disagree too, it is one of the best, and suits every scene perfectly.

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MilleniumForce wrote:

LTK and TLD are two completely different films. TLD is a semi serious Bond film, which has the gadgets and car equivalent to previous films, with a more realistic plot, which results in realistically bland villains. LTK is a dark revenge film, that is toned down on gadgetry, but has a memorable Bond villain. They're both very good films though.

http://makeameme.org/media/created/give-that-man-twb0fr.jpg

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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There's a few problems with TLD.

1) It wants to be serious but remains jokey in parts
2) Dalton does not do the oneliners well.
3) Uninteresting villains.
4) Too many John Glen "trademarks" like the monkeys, the family of 3 (and their dog) swerving, explosion of box/shed directly behind car.  I don't mind those things, but doesn't fit in TLD.

HOWEVER, TLD is top 2 for me at the moment. Why?

1) The score, one of if not the best
2) Necros vs Green 4 is one of the best fights in the series.
3) Fight hanging from back of plane, another top stunt/fight
4) Car chase, cello scene
5) Spy thriller
6) Dalton

Despite having some out of place humour, I like the mix between the serious and the fun....best of both worlds.

2019 Bondathon...in progress (6) FRWL (7) GE (8) FYEO (9) TND (10) MR (11) GF (12) LALD (13) DAF (14) LTK (15) TMWTGG (16) TB (17) TSWLM (18) DAD (19) AVTAK (20) YOLT (21) QOS (22) SF (23) TWINE (24) SP

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I've always personally found Koskov and Whitaker interesting Villains  ajb007/martini

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

I've always personally found Koskov and Whitaker interesting Villains  ajb007/martini

Koskov, yes. Whitaker isn't so special. Necros is fantastic, though.

TLD has the worst Felix, but one of the best allies in Pushkin.

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It was the Cold war and i always liked an American General teaming up his polar opposite - a Russian General..

1. For Your Eyes Only      2. The Living Daylights    3 From Russia with Love  4. Casino Royale  5. OHMSS  6. Skyfall

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AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

I've always personally found Koskov and Whitaker interesting Villains  ajb007/martini

+1 ajb007/cheers

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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I agree, The Living Daylights does get better everytime, and look how much a fan I am now!

I found Licence To Killto be funnier of the two, due to the score, and Dalton and Davi's one liners.

1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. TLD 4. FRWL 5. LTK 6. TSWLM 7. CR 8. OP  9. GF 10. DN 11. MR 12. SP 13. LALD 14. QOS 15. TB 16. SF 17. TMWTGG 18. GE 19. YOLT 20. AVTAK 21. TND 22. TWINE 23. DAF 24. DAD

1. Dalton 2. Connery 3. Moore 4. Craig 5. Lazenby  6. Brosnan

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Wadsy wrote:

I agree, The Living Daylights does get better everytime, and look how much a fan I am now!

I found Licence To Killto be funnier of the two, due to the score, and Dalton and Davi's one liners.

Like I've said before, high point of the series for me... but just by a bit. ajb007/martini

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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Can't argue here! First time I saw this one was in 2007/2008 as I was a more casual Bond fan during my school years (growing up with Brosnan I watched all his films, my parents would show me a few Connery's and Moore's, but it wasn't until 2007/2008 that I had DVR and was able to record many of them during a Bondathon on TV). My thoughts were that this was the most boring Bond film of all time. I think this was caused by two factors. The cinematography was pretty straight forward and effects were minimal. Growing up in the Brosnan era of explosions and the introduction of digital effects, it seemed a step backward (but not as explainable like the Moore or Connery films that came years before). The second was that the plot is one of the less straight forward stories and I was multitasking on my laptop, so I quickly became lost with what was transpiring.

While watching through the films during the QoS/SF gap, it steadily rose in my opinion, with the following rankings over the years:

2012: 11th
2013: 11th
2014: 4th
2015: 2nd
2016: 2nd

ANd there you have it - so yes TLD just gets better and better  ajb007/martini

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*WARNING: HIGGINS PROXIMITY ALERT*

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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I'm already watching this close - ready to pull the trigger  ajb007/biggrin

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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I can never decide for long if TLD or LTK is the better movie,  it depends on my mood.  Regardless,  they are both good  ajb007/bond

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I can never decide for long if TLD or LTK is the better movie,  it depends on my mood.  Regardless,  they are both crap   ajb007/crap

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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Both great films, LTK would be my favourite  of the two,  Dalton is a perfect Bond  ajb007/martini

“I remember the last thing my Nan said to me before she died.
‘What are you doing here with that hammer?’”..... Lee Mack.

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I love them both,  prefer ld if only for the Aston.  These films for me have improved as I've matured.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Higgins wrote:

I can never decide for long if TLD or LTK is the better movie,  it depends on my mood.  Regardless,  they are both crap   ajb007/crap

Why do you not like either of them? I respect your opinion, just curious.

1. FYEO 2. OHMSS 3. TLD 4. FRWL 5. LTK 6. TSWLM 7. CR 8. OP  9. GF 10. DN 11. MR 12. SP 13. LALD 14. QOS 15. TB 16. SF 17. TMWTGG 18. GE 19. YOLT 20. AVTAK 21. TND 22. TWINE 23. DAF 24. DAD

1. Dalton 2. Connery 3. Moore 4. Craig 5. Lazenby  6. Brosnan

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Oh no, just what he needs- encouragement....  ajb007/crap

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Barbel wrote:

Oh no, just what he needs- encouragement....  ajb007/crap

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Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT