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chrisisall wrote:
BruceMurdock wrote:

My problems with TLD really stem from Tim's weak performance

TLD is my #1, my #3 is a Brosnan, I must be mad... ajb007/insane

No, your tastes differ from mine. That's all. Though our tastes are pretty similar.  ajb007/cheers

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chrisisall wrote:

TLD is my #1, my #3 is a Brosnan, I must be mad... ajb007/insane

Oh yes!  ajb007/tongue

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Higgins wrote:
chrisisall wrote:

TLD is my #1, my #3 is a Brosnan, I must be mad... ajb007/insane

Oh yes!  ajb007/tongue

We're back, we're bad,
you're black; I'm mad!

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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Wonderful movie!

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Mooresflares wrote:

Wonderful movie!

The best. ajb007/martini

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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Just seen TLD for the first time in years. I used to think it was dull, but I really liked it this time. The plot is not the most straight forward and i used to be confused by it, but I get it now (having googled it!).

An interesting thing about the film is how there are several set ups (Kara thinking Koskov is good; he believing she is dead - and, later, that Pushkin is too; Saunders' initial dislike of Bond, Bond's skeptism upon hearing Koskov's claims) and every one of them are resolved. It's one of those tricky stories were you have to keep in mind what each character knows and doesn't know. Cool, also, that the ticking bomb was started by Bond himself after years in which the bad guy did it. As such, the plane sequence shows Bond abandoning his plan to blow up the opium and deciding to fly away with it instead, thereby using his witx and rolling with the punches.

Koskov, I think, was a very different villian. He's a weasel: manipulative, duplicitious, shallow, calculating, greedy and deadly. I can't help but like the rascal, particularly when he meets Pushkin at the end and has to think on his feet.

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My Top 10 Bonds: Octopussy, Goldeneye, From Russia With Love, Tomorrow Never Dies, Licence to Kill, For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, The Spy Who Loved Me, Goldfinger and Moonraker.

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This is the first Bond film I saw in the cinema. I adore Dalton's performance in this film. He has some great moments. In the sequence just after Saunders is killed look at the subtle shifts of emotions he communicates in less than a minute of screen time. From his lines 'bad accident back there' he tries to protect Kara from the truth, then he's suspicious of Kara when she says she knows Whittaker, then he's slightly hurt when Kara mentions Koskov and then venomous when she asks if he heard from him..."yes, I got the message." Brilliant work and it's little things that Dalton brings to the performance that make it so rewarding rewatching his Bond films.

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Living daylights is very far up there for me. In the top 5 surely. Dalton is great in it, the plot, the music, the last bond flick with that feel they had since dr no.

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I liked that some of the humour was character-driven, like Kara insisting they go back for the cello, Moneypenny's skee-whiff specs, Bond changing the wine from the one on the shopping list and - perhaps most subtly - near the end, in Afghanistan, when Bond creeps around a corner and Kara is, for a moment, too distracted to follow him. Such stealth is obviously new to her.

My Top 10 Bonds: Octopussy, Goldeneye, From Russia With Love, Tomorrow Never Dies, Licence to Kill, For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights, The Spy Who Loved Me, Goldfinger and Moonraker.

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While the PTS of TLD is very good I've never liked the bit where bond is running after the SMERSH assassin and a SAS trooper shoots Bond with paintball. The trooper tries to block 007 and Bond just nudeges into him more like a very busy and bully trying to get Ahead in the que in the  sales in a mall than two of Britain's most elite fighters. They should have Bond perform a cool martial arts move on the surprised SAS trooper. The trooper gets up, ready to defend himself when Bond shouts to him: "The exersise is terminated - this is for real!"
It would be cooler than what we got, but also a mission statement for Dalton's New Bond.

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I rewatched it this weekend, and while a few of the comedy elements really do stick out (mainly in the beginning) and Felix Leiter is perhaps needlessly shoehorned in, and Brad Whitaker might've been better off recast (I never liked Joe Don Baker in any of his Bond appearences), I think it still works, thoroughly enjoyable, the score is a great adieu to John Barry and Dalton is just brilliant. Loved it always.

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Still my favourite Bond movie after all these years. ajb007/martini

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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I really enjoy both Dalton Bond films   ajb007/martini

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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It got better for me that it's my second favourite James Bond movie.

1. FYEO 2. TLD 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. OHMSS 6. TSWLM 7. GF  8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. DN 11. SP 12. MR 13. SF  14. CR 15. TB 16. LALD 17. GE 18. YOLT 19. TND 20. TMWTGG 21. TWINE 22. TND 23. DAF 24. DAD

1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig  6. Brosnan

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It's never going to be my number one, but I agree TLD has aged much better than many of the eighties OO7s.

This is mostly because Timothy Dalton's performance, given time and understanding, is better appreciated now than it was in 1987. His is one of the very best performances by an actor as James Bond. I like that he's serious, yet still able to pass off the Moore-esque humour which occasionally pervades. There are a couple of missteps, but that isn't Dalton's fault, more the screenwriters. His character is multi-textured. The scenes in Austria are excellent and Dalton has a real romantic spark with Maryam D'Abo's ingenue agent. You can't tell if Bond's really falling in love or if he's merely acting the part. Dalton is great too in his early scenes, all action in the PTS, dismissive of his superiors, suspicious of Koskov, reluctant to pull the trigger on his friend Pushkin. I reckon Daniel Craig watched this film a lot to perfect some of the nuances in his own portrayal.

TLD is also very Cold War, probably the most realistic Bond ever got, especially that foray to Afghanistan, where the audience [and Bond] witness the chaos of a genuine, bloody war.