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He chopped him to Pieces instead  ajb007/lol

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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Blackleiter wrote:

Pros

The first part of the movie up until Bond leaves Cuba.

Cons

The rest of the movie!

And I must comment separately on Jinx (Halle Berry), as I see that some commentators consider her as an asset, while others view her as one of the film's worst elements:

Pros

Seeing Berry on screen. She is top of the line when it comes to the gorgeousness of Bond Girls.

Cons

Just about every time Berry opens her mouth. She has absolutely some of the worst lines and worst line readings in the entire series.

+1 Agree with everything you say BL.

"Any of the opposition around..?"

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Hehadlotsofguts wrote :
" I liked him as well TP. An arrogant, power hungry jerk. Toby Stephens played him perfectly"
Yes, he was an arrogant tosser, I wanted Bond to kick the sh*t out of him  ajb007/martini

I'd settle for tossing the dude through a burning jet engine.  ajb007/lol

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Virgil37 wrote:

I've gone through my reasons for considering TND the all time low of the franchise. Others feel that way in this forum, so I'm not the only one.

Really? Can you name one? I mean, someone who feels TND is 'the all time low'? I can't recall seeing it dead last on anyone's list but yours... I could be wrong...

with your "chinese girls" and "personal prejudice" comments you are clearly crossing a red line

A 'red' line? Is that Commie reference? Are you saying I should move to Russia? ajb007/mad

ajb007/lol  Okay, seriously, by 'personal prejudice' I mean something in your past that affects your judgement of the film- like for ME, I was severely traumatized by Bambi as a child, and consequently when a beloved or main character dies in a movie, my first reaction is 'this movie sucks'. When Matrix Revolutions came out I flat out stated that it was THE worst movie ever made. ajb007/lol
Now I can say it's a well made flick that I just can't enjoy.   
For years I couldn't watch YOLT because of Aki's death! ajb007/amazed
That's what I mean.

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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Thegreatgalling wrote :
  " I'd settle for tossing the dude through a burning jet engine "

Yes either way he was toast !  ajb007/wink   although to be a bit of a dick about it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsrNEeqd6Q
You can go through a jet engine, with only minor injuries.  ajb007/biggrin
But I wouldn't want to try.  ajb007/lol

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Must be something in the alignment of the stars ?
Sir Miles and Number24, arguing,  Virgil37 and Chrisisall  arguing
Last night it was Blackleiter and myself !
This really is getting more and more like an old folks home !  ajb007/tongue   ajb007/lol

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Now we are missing a good old Higgins and ASP9MM Row  ajb007/lol

1.On Her Majesties Secret Service 2.The Living Daylights 3.license To Kill 4.The Spy Who Loved Me 5.Goldfinger

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Must be something in the alignment of the stars ?
Sir Miles and Number24, arguing,  Virgil37 and Chrisisall  arguing
Last night it was Blackleiter and myself !
This really is getting more and more like an old folks home !  ajb007/tongue   ajb007/lol

WHY WHEN I WAS A KID.....

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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We didn't even think you could remember THAT far back !  ajb007/tongue   ajb007/lol

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Thegreatgalling wrote :
  " I'd settle for tossing the dude through a burning jet engine "

Yes either way he was toast !  ajb007/wink   although to be a bit of a dick about it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5FsrNEeqd6Q
You can go through a jet engine, with only minor injuries.  ajb007/biggrin
But I wouldn't want to try.  ajb007/lol

Sure on an A6 intruder with a lengthy 8-9 foot air intake. That guy's life was spared because on that engine, the blades were deep within, and his arm prevented him from being sucked through the blades. When his helmet was sucked off and hit the blades, it killed the engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3Iz7b95-8

On typical airliners, the blades are close to the edge and make for interesting entertainment during bird tests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1f0Tk-tD6k

EDIT: I know you were just joking around, but I had remembered this video and wanted to prove my intelligence to my deep seeded insecurities.  ajb007/lol

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Bloody hell, that's like watching a Saw movie.  ajb007/lol
" When his helmet was sucked off !". That's the way I want to go !  ajb007/wink

I'm always will to be taught new stuff,  I have that printed on my business cards
That I  leave in phone boxes .  ajb007/wink   ajb007/lol

Interesting videos  ajb007/martini

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Bloody hell, that's like watching a Saw movie.  ajb007/lol
" When his helmet was sucked off !". That's the way I want to go !  ajb007/wink

I'm always will to be taught new stuff,  I have that printed on my business cards
That I  leave in phone boxes .  ajb007/wink   ajb007/lol

Interesting videos  ajb007/martini

ajb007/cheers  I think we can agree then that Gustav Graves became Gustav Gravy.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

B
I'm always will to be taught new stuff,  I have that printed on my business cards
That I  leave in phone boxes .  ajb007/wink   ajb007/lol

ajb007/martini

ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

1. For Your Eyes Only      2. The Living Daylights    3 From Russia with Love  4. Casino Royale  5. OHMSS  6. Skyfall

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chrisisall wrote:
Virgil37 wrote:

I've gone through my reasons for considering TND the all time low of the franchise. Others feel that way in this forum, so I'm not the only one.

Really? Can you name one? I mean, someone who feels TND is 'the all time low'? I can't recall seeing it dead last on anyone's list but yours... I could be wrong...

with your "chinese girls" and "personal prejudice" comments you are clearly crossing a red line

A 'red' line? Is that Commie reference? Are you saying I should move to Russia? ajb007/mad

ajb007/lol  Okay, seriously, by 'personal prejudice' I mean something in your past that affects your judgement of the film- like for ME, I was severely traumatized by Bambi as a child, and consequently when a beloved or main character dies in a movie, my first reaction is 'this movie sucks'. When Matrix Revolutions came out I flat out stated that it was THE worst movie ever made. ajb007/lol
Now I can say it's a well made flick that I just can't enjoy.   
For years I couldn't watch YOLT because of Aki's death! ajb007/amazed
That's what I mean.

Seriously Chrisisall, do not play games by using  "chinese girls" and "personal prejudice" in the same sentence. It sounds much worse than you intended.

I've said it many times, I'll say it again. TND is a disjointed film. Action sequences put together. It's quite noticeable that the script was not properly developed. No "personal prejudice" whatsoever, no freudian theories, no child traumas, no racial bias... I tried watching the film many times, and always think the same. Just a very bad film. Period. DAD, the topic of this thread, is a much better film.

Just accept the fact that we all have a favourite and a least favourite film. It so happens that TND is my least favourite, and your third favourite, which I respect without getting into weird theories (like you must be blind or something).

No hard feelings right?  ajb007/cheers

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I'm happy you boys have kissed and made-up.   ajb007/biggrin   ajb007/cheers

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Virgil37 wrote:

No hard feelings right?  ajb007/cheers

'Hard feelings'? Is that a sexual reference? Are you saying something about my manhood? ajb007/mad

Ha ha, no man, we're cool. I'm known for extensive deceased equestrian pulverizing... ajb007/biggrin

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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Chrisisall wrote  :
" I'm known for extensive deceased equestrian pulverizing "

ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Chrisisall and I only argue about TND. But when we do, it's tough...  ajb007/amazed  ajb007/wink

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I think a couple of thongs and a mud pit, might make it more
Of a  spectacle, for the rest of us !  ajb007/lol

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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As long as we can all at least agree that Dalton was a great Bond, all is well.

AND, on topic: NO BOND EVER was more about the lasers than DAD. ajb007/martini

Last edited by chrisisall (11th Feb 2015 01:39)

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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The Red Kind wrote:
Blackleiter wrote:

Pros

The first part of the movie up until Bond leaves Cuba.

Cons

The rest of the movie!

And I must comment separately on Jinx (Halle Berry), as I see that some commentators consider her as an asset, while others view her as one of the film's worst elements:

Pros

Seeing Berry on screen. She is top of the line when it comes to the gorgeousness of Bond Girls.

Cons

Just about every time Berry opens her mouth. She has absolutely some of the worst lines and worst line readings in the entire series.

+1 Agree with everything you say BL.

It's good to know I'm making sense to someone! ajb007/lol  ajb007/martini

"Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Last night it was Blackleiter and myself !

You call that an argument, TP? These others lads laugh at us old codgers struggling to find something about which we disagree! ajb007/lol

"Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."

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We have to be careful, with your pacemaker and my blood pressure !  ajb007/lol

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Thunderpussy wrote:

We have to be careful, with your pacemaker and my blood pressure !  ajb007/lol

So true, my friend! ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

"Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."

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chrisisall wrote:

AND, on topic: NO BOND EVER was more about the lasers than DAD. ajb007/martini

Absolutely.

Eon knew lasers were a popular trope in fiction and that they were a motif in some of the other James Bond movies.  So, they just went nuts with it.