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Topic: Pros and Cons: Dr. No

The very first James Bond film.  Features Sean Connery.  It was a struggle for Eon to get this movie in production, but they did it, and with a sizable but very limited budget of 1 million, they managed to pull it off.  Was initially criticized for having too much sex and violence, but now is seen as tame, and the movie that started this massive 007 franchise.

Pros:

  • One of Connery's best performances

  • Connery and Andress had chemistry

  • Dr. No is a terrifying villain

  • Beautiful colorful island scenery

  • The dinner table talk begins "talking villain syndrome"

  • Influenced so many aspects of the entire series

  • Smart directing and sound emphasizes important subtleties

  • Is humorful and creative, but still is overall serious ; well balanced

  • It's pure ; Bond as a spy - not an action hero

  • First half is suspenseful but surely paced

  • Second half is tense/bleak with a nice climax

  • Quaint and nostalgic sense of minimalism all around

Cons:

  • Somewhat of a condescending British "White mans burden" attitude

  • The tank "dragon" wasn't very convincing.

  • Honey Ryder, as a character was a 10 y/o in a 25 y/o's body

  • ^^ That's not sexy!!  That's borderline pedophile.

Dr. No is a great Bond film.  It was one of the very first ones I watched.  I thought I would like it less over time once I watched the other films, but this gem really does hold up.  I am a fan of the more modern post-Thatcher Bond films, but sometimes it's good to put away the gunshots and explosions for more of a nuanced atmosphere.  Sometimes less is more.

Last edited by Absolutely_Cart (19th Mar 2015 17:40)

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Re: Pros and Cons: Dr. No

Pros -

Amazing Location
Vibrant Atmosphere
Intimidating Villain
One of the sexiest Bond Girls ever

Cons -

Fetch my Shoes!  ajb007/crap
Slower then the later Films

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Forgot to add a pro about the great location/scenery.  Will do that.

Ursula Andress may be very attractive, but Honey Ryder is NOT sexy.  She's jail-bait.

As for the speed of the film, I partially agree.  I watched this movie a few months ago, and it was too slow so I turned it off.  I returned back to it last week and watched the whole thing in full.  I guess it just depends on what you're in the mood to watch.

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Pros
The Jamaican locations

Honey's vulnerability when she is in the same room as No. She looks absolutely terrified throuhout.

The soundtrack

Dr No is a great villain

Bond's false exit tecnique when he meets Dent.

A hot femme fatale in Miss Taro

First appearance of a reccurring actor (Milton Reid)

Cons.

The fight between Bond and No was to quick.

Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

" I don't listen to hip hop!"

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I forgot to mention Bonds Introduction  ajb007/martini

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Pros: Everything about it except the back projection in the chase sequence

Cons: The back projection in the chase sequence

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Back Projection for Films in the 60's was common.

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Yes, all those older films did it. I guess that was the best they could do for the time.  ajb007/smile

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Yes, all those older films did it. I guess that was the best they could do for the time.  ajb007/smile

We must attempt time travel so we can go back to the making of Dr. No & explain how camera mounts & tow vehicles can be used to film actors in driving scenes.

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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Look at the similar films of the day, North by Northwest for instance.   ajb007/wink
They were made at a time when films were Movies and not  realistic
Documentaries.  ajb007/biggrin
  We could also travel back in time to teach the mediaeval artists about
Perspective ?  ajb007/tongue

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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Thunderpussy wrote:

  We could also travel back in time to teach the mediaeval artists about
Perspective ?  ajb007/tongue

NOW you're talkin' a rather serious paradox.... ajb007/wink

Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool. Craig is too.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.QOS 4.DN 5.GF/GE 6.SP 7.FRWL 8.TB/TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT

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chrisisall wrote:
Thunderpussy wrote:

  We could also travel back in time to teach the mediaeval artists about
Perspective ?  ajb007/tongue

NOW you're talkin' a rather serious paradox.... ajb007/wink

But just think how epic the Bayeux tapestry would look!  ajb007/lol

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It would bring life to the " Naughty bits" of it   ajb007/wink

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Blackadder ?  ajb007/lol

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hehadlotsofguts wrote:

The fight between Bond and No was to quick.

Yeah, but it was funny how Dr. No couldn't pull himself out of the nuclear waste because he had no hands.

Gosh, I love this movie.  Classic.

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Absolutely_Cart wrote:
hehadlotsofguts wrote:

The fight between Bond and No was to quick.

Yeah, but it was funny how Dr. No couldn't pull himself out of the nuclear waste because he had no hands.

Gosh, I love this movie.  Classic.

If you find his Film Death funny, then read the Novel Version.

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AlphaOmegaSin wrote:

If you find his Film Death funny, then read the Novel Version.

Yeah, I'd love to see that in a film some day!

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Dr. No is probably the best movie from the entire series

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
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So, YOLT is your subjective favorite and DN is the move you feel is objectively the best?

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Absolutely_Cart wrote:
hehadlotsofguts wrote:

The fight between Bond and No was to quick.

Yeah, but it was funny how Dr. No couldn't pull himself out of the nuclear waste because he had no hands.

Gosh, I love this movie.  Classic.

I actually felt sorry for him. Just looked helpless.

Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

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Pros:

- Has Fleming's work to base the screenplay on and stays close to it.
- Connery makes an impressive first appearance and makes EON's Bond into
  an iconic character.
- Wiseman makes a creepy, robotic like No.
- Andress is perfect eye candy for the first EON heroine.
- Filming in the real Jamaican locations.

Cons:

- Pacing is too slow even for the speed of the films of this era (compare to
  North By Northwest - an even older film).
- Connery makes an impression but IMO still seems unconvincing as having an
  Eton/upper class history.
- Andress is actually too attractive for the character (who had a crooked     
  nose) and does not convince me she is the "tomboy/camping out" type of
  adventurer her character is supposed to be. 
- Wise is a fine actor but I would have preferred Christopher Lee - he made a
  great Fu Manchu and would have been a natural for the role.
- A lot of the background music wasn't very good and comes across as music
  one is used to hearing in low budget horror films of the time.  Only the
  calypso music and the Bond theme resonate, though the track that is used
  for Bond's voyage to Crab Key is fine.
- Bond humming a tune to Moneypenny in her office.  Out of character for him.
- I liked the whole intro of Connery's "Bond, James Bond" except for the
   cigarette dangling from his mouth like a gangster or Bogart.  Not exactly a
   sophisticated action.  Damon Runyon's characters did that, not Bond.
- Connery's condescending "Fetch my shoes" line.  Ugh.  Wish they could just
   edit that out.
-  John Kitzmiller.  He was fine in some scenes (though his accent is not that
    convincing - he was an American actor born in Michigan), but in other's
    his reactions to being frightful appear almost comical. The actor Roy
    Stewart who played "Quarrel Jr." in LALD made a more convincing character
    and he was actually born in Jamaica (even though the character is from
    the Caymans).  Now HE would have been great in the film (had he been
    at that age in '62).
-  Bond in the tunnels. Not suspenseful enough IMO.  Neither is how Honey
   is supposed to be killed.  They should have shown the water about to
   drown her.
-  No's hands.  I know the pincers were difficult to do then, but they should
   have tried anyway.  Black rubber cloves are not very scary.
-  I still wanted to see No die under tons of bird crap.  Oh well...

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CmdrAtticus wrote:

cloves are not very scary.

They taste good, though.  ajb007/embarrassed

More seriously, I agree that Lee would have been a wonderful No and that most of the music stinks.

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I read in John Cork's James Bond The Legacy that the metal hands that Wiseman wore were actually metal. He said that they were uncomfortable.

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The same with Keils Teeth.

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**It's pure ; Bond as a spy - not an action hero**

Whilst I agree with the purity of the story, I see Bond more of an "investigator" than a spy in Dr. No