26

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

A futher little titbit I discovered today ( If True ) was that Dino made
more money from doing The Ambushers that Sir Sean got for Thunderball !  ajb007/amazed
I'm guessing Dean Martin had a better agent than Sir Sean, the article added that
as already stated Dino had lost interest in the films but it was the murder of
Sharon Tate, that really did it for him.

https://worstmoviesevermade.com/best-wo … 1966-1969/

Last edited by Thunderpussy (13th Aug 2019 17:13)

27

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

Dean had insisted on being a full partner in the Helm pictures as a condition of his participation. Sir Sean asked Cubby and Harry for the same, and was refused. I'm not sure about the timing, but it's definitely one of the major causes of his disenchantment.

28

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

It was interesting that original scenes of Sharon Tate in "The Wrecking Crew" were featured in "Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood," which I watched just last weekend.

"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....

29

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

I was browsing a discount bookseller’s wares during the weekend and I stumbled upon a few Matt Helm novels going cheap. I’ve seen a number of recommendations for these books on AJB over the years so I am looking forward to giving them a read. I would have liked to get some of the early books in the series, but apart from the first book, most of the other ones are much later entries. I hope they will still be entertaining. The titles that I got are:

Death of a Citizen (1960)
The Betrayers (1966)
The Terrorizers (1977)
The Vanishers (1986)
The Frighteners (1989)

30

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

Thunderpussy wrote:

The Helm films also had Bruce Lee as the fight Choreographer and
an early appearance of Chuck Norris as a general " Heavy"  ajb007/wink

I didnt know this. Which films did he choreograph?

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

31

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

In further readings about “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,” it turns out that Bruce Lee trained the cast of the Matt Helm movie that was featured, which is how he and Sharon Tate became friends.

"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....

32

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

The ironic thing is the parody of Bond that the Helm and Flint movies represented predicted the direction the Bond movies would take.

33

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

Hello, my agents. I watched two Matt Helm films (because I believe that only these two were dubbed in my country). And from what I could see, it looked like I was watching an Austin Powers movie. But I didn't think there were elements that I liked. (1960s, visual, women, comedies). Have you ever stopped to think if these films were equal to 007 and passed from actor to actor? I even liked the films being different from the books, and being more comical. Those two films were what Casino Royale 67 was not for me.

Sean Connery: The best of all James Bond

34

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

Which two films were they, PAP?

35

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

The Ambushers (1967)
The Wrecking Crew (1969)

Sean Connery: The best of all James Bond

36

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

While I love them, those are weaker than the first two IMHO.

37

Re: The 60s James Bond Rivals (1): Matt Helm

I watched the Silencers the other night.
Never seen it before, or the sequels, never read the books either. But it sure looks exactly like something I've seen before.
As Barbel notes Austin Powers owes much more to this than it does to our Bond films, Dr Evil and the chest-hair rug aside.
Not just the photographer gig, but all the pacing, the jokes, the sightgags, the visual aesthetic, the gadgets...

My verdict: much better than the awful Modesty Blaise film, more enjoyable than our Casino Royale but without the artistic pretensions, not so enjoyable as Our Man Flint. Seems like there was a lot more spy film spoofs than proper spy films in those days. Oh yes, nowhere near so good as any random Get Smart episode.

Jill St John in Diamonds are Forever owes something to Stella Stevens' character doesn't she, she even repeats the machine gun gag.


The same dodgy website where I watched this, also has the other three, so I'll keep going. I'm sure I'll be a convert by the end.