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Donald Grant wrote:

The only problem is that the 1680 Submariner is not the "hero" watch because it's not shown in close-up.  I guess it can be referred to as the "stunt" watch or "stand in".  Nevertheless, at least it can be positively identified as a Submariner unlike some other so called Bond watch discoveries that can't be positively identified and that change over time.

DG

Absolutely.  This is a revelation.

..................http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/Asp9mmSIG-1-2.jpg...............

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Asp9mm wrote:
Donald Grant wrote:

The only problem is that the 1680 Submariner is not the "hero" watch because it's not shown in close-up.  I guess it can be referred to as the "stunt" watch or "stand in".  Nevertheless, at least it can be positively identified as a Submariner unlike some other so called Bond watch discoveries that can't be positively identified and that change over time.

DG

Absolutely.  This is a revelation.

Yes, indeed it is!

DG

So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
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Donald Grant wrote:

The only problem is that the 1680 Submariner is not the "hero" watch because it's not shown in close-up.  I guess it can be referred to as the "stunt" watch or "stand in".  Nevertheless, at least it can be positively identified as a Submariner unlike some other so called Bond watch discoveries that can't be positively identified and that change over time.

DG

The trouble is, in every shot that you see RM with a Sub on it is the 1680, the only time you see the 5513 is in that close up shot of him looking at the time just before Gibson is shot, Id go as far to say that that is an insert shot and maybe not even RM hand.

Strange  ajb007/lol

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So cool that there are still things to discover in these films. Nice find, Higgins!

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danjaq_0ff wrote:
Donald Grant wrote:

The only problem is that the 1680 Submariner is not the "hero" watch because it's not shown in close-up.  I guess it can be referred to as the "stunt" watch or "stand in".  Nevertheless, at least it can be positively identified as a Submariner unlike some other so called Bond watch discoveries that can't be positively identified and that change over time.

DG

The trouble is, in every shot that you see RM with a Sub on it is the 1680, the only time you see the 5513 is in that close up shot of him looking at the time just before Gibson is shot, Id go as far to say that that is an insert shot and maybe not even RM hand.

Strange  ajb007/lol

You're right, and that begs the question:

What did the filmmakers intend?  Did the filmmakers intend a 5513 or a 1680?  Of course it could simply be that RM wore his own 1680 and when they did the insert shot, RMs watch was not on hand so they used what they had, the hold over 5513 from LALD.

Very, very interesting!  Again, great find!

So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
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Donald Grant wrote:
danjaq_0ff wrote:
Donald Grant wrote:

The only problem is that the 1680 Submariner is not the "hero" watch because it's not shown in close-up.  I guess it can be referred to as the "stunt" watch or "stand in".  Nevertheless, at least it can be positively identified as a Submariner unlike some other so called Bond watch discoveries that can't be positively identified and that change over time.

DG



The trouble is, in every shot that you see RM with a Sub on it is the 1680, the only time you see the 5513 is in that close up shot of him looking at the time just before Gibson is shot, Id go as far to say that that is an insert shot and maybe not even RM hand.

Strange  ajb007/lol

You're right, and that begs the question:

What did the filmmakers intend?  Did the filmmakers intend a 5513 or a 1680?  Of course it could simply be that RM wore his own 1680 and when they did the insert shot, RMs watch was not on hand so they used what they had, the hold over 5513 from LALD.

Very, very interesting!  Again, great find!

As they are showing us a close up of the 5513, Id say that is the one that they want us to think he is wearing.

I had a chat with majik007collector today and he told me that RM isn't wearing the 5513 all of the time in LALD either, and it isn't a Rolex.

http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t513/danjaq_0ff/Live-and-Let-Die-326_zpsuavz1rx7.jpg
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t513/danjaq_0ff/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-16%20at%2012.59.14_zpskzd15e8m.png
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t513/danjaq_0ff/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-16%20at%2013.00.35-1_zpsnc3rjflq.png
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t513/danjaq_0ff/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-16%20at%2013.01.29_zpspvuvpj1l.png

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danjaq_0ff wrote:
Donald Grant wrote:
danjaq_0ff wrote:


The trouble is, in every shot that you see RM with a Sub on it is the 1680, the only time you see the 5513 is in that close up shot of him looking at the time just before Gibson is shot, Id go as far to say that that is an insert shot and maybe not even RM hand.

Strange  ajb007/lol

You're right, and that begs the question:

What did the filmmakers intend?  Did the filmmakers intend a 5513 or a 1680?  Of course it could simply be that RM wore his own 1680 and when they did the insert shot, RMs watch was not on hand so they used what they had, the hold over 5513 from LALD.

Very, very interesting!  Again, great find!

As they are showing us a close up of the 5513, Id say that is the one that they want us to think he is wearing.

I had a chat with majik007collector today and he told me that RM isn't wearing the 5513 all of the time in LALD either, and it isn't a Rolex.

http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t513/danjaq_0ff/Live-and-Let-Die-326_zpsuavz1rx7.jpg
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t513/danjaq_0ff/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-16%20at%2012.59.14_zpskzd15e8m.png
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t513/danjaq_0ff/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-16%20at%2013.00.35-1_zpsnc3rjflq.png
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t513/danjaq_0ff/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-16%20at%2013.01.29_zpspvuvpj1l.png

Yeah, that's old news.  I have seen those pictures before.  Perhaps you're right.  However I still think it's cool that RM is wearing a 1680 as Bond.  A great find!

DG

So, what sharp little eyes you've got...wait till you get to my teeth.
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ajb007/lol  maybe the 5513 shot was a leftover which was found on the cutting floor still there from LALD  ajb007/biggrin

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So, I went thru the first 30 minutes from TMWTGG.

Whenever a watch can be seen, it's a Rolex Submariner or a Submariner Date.
The other (so far unknown) model is not seen yet - and I doubt that it'll be seen later
I've done several screenshots which I have to brighten up with photoshop later

I'll keep you all updated on this.

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I was just researching and reading about Bond’s watches he’s actually worn in the movies - especially the various Submariner versions - when I stumbled upon this old thread which I herby reactivate. Since it’s been almost five years after the last post in 2015 I was wondering if there is more evidence and assurance that Roger Moore actually wore a Rolex Submariner 1680 in TMWTGG?
https://i.postimg.cc/NLW3y6Kp/1-C089-DCA-1-DC0-4591-B14-B-A049-A254024-D.jpg

If this is the case it almost had to be a Red Sub - although I cannot recognize anything in red on the dial - since there was no 1680 “white” mate dial Submariner on the market until 1976 ... at least according to Hodinkee: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/rolex … nce-points

Would love to hear your thoughts and/or new clues on this topic.

Best,

David

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Asp9mm wrote:

Excellent find.  Proves the point that even the dumbest blindest squirrel can sometimes find a nut.

Is that why you have only one?

Edit: HOLY NECROPHILIA!!! I didn't realize this was such an old thread!!   ajb007/amazed  ajb007/amazed  ajb007/amazed

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DCM wrote:

I was just researching and reading about Bond’s watches he’s actually worn in the movies - especially the various Submariner versions - when I stumbled upon this old thread which I herby reactivate. Since it’s been almost five years after the last post in 2015 I was wondering if there is more evidence and assurance that Roger Moore actually wore a Rolex Submariner 1680 in TMWTGG?
https://i.postimg.cc/m2DB5VBf/1-C089-DCA-1-DC0-4591-B14-B-A049-A254024-D.jpg

If this is the case it almost had to be a Red Sub - although I cannot recognize anything in red on the dial - since there was no 1680 “white” mate dial Submariner on the market until 1976 ... at least according to Hodinkee: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/rolex … nce-points


Would love to hear your thoughts and/or new clues on this topic.

Best,

David


Well, as it‘s very much likely Moore‘s personal watch, it could have been purchased much earlier than when the movie has been shot - or not  ajb007/biggrin

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Hmm ... what keeps me thinking is this ...

... according to this comprehensive Rolex reference guide (https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/rolex … nce-points) - see also the table at the end of the page - the first Rolex Submariner with Date was released in 1969 and produced until 1976: the Red Sub. And if we ignore the COMEX (Mid 1970) which we can rule out because of the easy identifiable dial - the first Submariner with Date and “white” matte dial wasn’t produced/released before 1976.

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Were the red 1680's made for the American market ? im sure that I have heard this before, but im a novice, so what do I know  ajb007/biggrin

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This is from Golden Gun:


https://i.postimg.cc/zLzDsghF/3f96b0faaaab6696b2cf5df2f029271f.jpg

https://screenmusings.org/movie/dvd/The-Man-With-the-Golden-Gun/images/The-Man-With-the-Golden-Gun-248.jpg

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HalfMonk HalfHitman wrote:

This is from Golden Gun:


https://i.postimg.cc/zLzDsghF/3f96b0faaaab6696b2cf5df2f029271f.jpg

https://screenmusings.org/movie/dvd/The-Man-With-the-Golden-Gun/images/The-Man-With-the-Golden-Gun-248.jpg

Yes but not the scene with the other Submariner the above refers to

Look at post 37.  The sub has a cyclops

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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/279/921/796.jpg

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welshboy78 wrote:

Look at post 37.  The sub has a cyclops

Ah! Posting before coffee again, apologies.

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Coincidentally I was watching Golden Gun this weekend and you can see he's wearing the one with the cyclops fairly clearly in the hotel room scene with Goodnight and Anders. Looks like he wears it all the way through the film.

Higgins wrote:

Well, as it‘s very much likely Moore‘s personal watch, it could have been purchased much earlier than when the movie has been shot - or not  ajb007/biggrin

I doubt it's his personal watch though, did he go in for this style? Doesn't seem very Moore. It's Bond's wardrobe.

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emtiem wrote:

Coincidentally I was watching Golden Gun this weekend and you can see he's wearing the one with the cyclops fairly clearly in the hotel room scene with Goodnight and Anders. Looks like he wears it all the way through the film.

Higgins wrote:

Well, as it‘s very much likely Moore‘s personal watch, it could have been purchased much earlier than when the movie has been shot - or not  ajb007/biggrin

I doubt it's his personal watch though, did he go in for this style? Doesn't seem very Moore. It's Bond's wardrobe.

He owned a Pepsi GMT (which coincidentally appeared in a promotional still for TSWLM), so I would say that a bezeled steel sports watch is indeed Moore’s personal style.

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He seems to be wearing a Tissot Seastar in nearly all the New Orleans-shot exteriors from LIVE AND LET DIE, and I wondered if that was his personal watch (it seems partly visible in non-Bond shots of him before filming).

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We have watched LALDyesterday,, and HH is correct!

https://share-your-photo.com/img/74dcc26ab6.jpg

https://share-your-photo.com/img/55d945713b.jpg

https://share-your-photo.com/img/6e71149025.jpg

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https://i.postimg.cc/qNFHnznj/LALD-NOLA-Watch-23.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/KkSXqw0T/LALD-NOLA-Watch-25.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/BjbGXx8j/LALD-NOLA-Watch-27.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/PL8sMTQh/Live-and-Let-Die-468.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/SYdwKskL/LALD-NOLA-Watch-2.jpg

It's so curious - in that same director's chair photo shoot at the airport, they pose him with the Sub:


https://i.postimg.cc/0KNqDmtX/LALD-NOLA-SUB.jpg

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Not sure about the first image, but yes, the other pics show the Tissot quite clearly

Last one is the Submariner 1680 with the date cyclops that is not seen in the movie.
Movie watch is a 5513 which has no date and no cyclops

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HalfMonk HalfHitman wrote:

It's so curious - in that same director's chair photo shoot at the airport, they pose him with the Sub:


https://i.postimg.cc/0KNqDmtX/LALD-NOLA-SUB.jpg

How strange, that one has a date window which the movie one doesn't.

He's not in costume is he? I don't recall that outfit. So I wonder why bring that watch along? I'd say maybe they were using it for promo purposes for Rolex but they never really did that then, did they?
Very odd, well done for finding it - I've never seen that photo before.

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