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Re: Unfinished Fleming Manuscript Rumour about Kingsley Amis' Colonel Sun?

The Domino Effect wrote:
caractacus potts wrote:

McClory must of been some kind of all-persuasive bluffer ...

I do get the impression that charm (blarney?) was perhaps McClory's greatest talent.

Well, he was Irish... ajb007/biggrin

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Re: Unfinished Fleming Manuscript Rumour about Kingsley Amis' Colonel Sun?

aside from the McClory digression (my fault, and there's plenty other threads for that)...

once again we get a clue for how Amis woulda written, or rewritten, ...Golden Gun if he wanted to!
Here he's speculating how Fleming will resolve that cliffhanger, without having yet seen the as-yet-unwritten manuscript.
In the previously posted review of ...Golden Gun he actually expanded on that speculation, saying this, this and this is what should have happened. Also he identifies some of the weaknesses in the novel, and how he had hoped Fleming would have dealt with those had he had lived. Not enough gourmet meals, being one surprising detail as I recall. And of course the desire to see the homosexuality/pistol fetishism angle actually developed in the plot.
In the ...Dossier there was some overlapping criticisms, as well as his general formula for how he understood Fleming's books to have worked.
Then in Colonel Sun we can see his understanding of that formula put into practice, plus certain personal twists all his own: much more political debate, very leisurely travelogue content, graphic torture, more graphic description of the women's anatomy plus slightly more explicit, even kinky sex.

There's enough clues there, almost like a math equation ... an ambitious fanfic writer could write their own version of how Amis's version of ...Golden Gun woulda gone! it might even require two volumes to accommodate the action packed escape from Russia and the kinkier Scaramanga plotline.

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caractacus potts wrote:

what's this all about?

Kingsley Amis wrote:

...later this year James Bond will become a double agent in a sense he never suspected, with two different incarnations of himself on the screens at once...

Feldman's Casino Royale wouldn't come out for another three years. Is he perhaps talking about Thunderball?

Feldman did try to get a serious version of Casino Royale produced around that time using Ben Hecht's screenplay, and I'm fairly certain it was announced in the trades.

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Thanks so much for posting this, Revelator!  It's awesome that you share stuff like this with everyone after going to all the trouble of hunting it down.

Man, I wish Amis had revised the Dossier into like a 500-page missive on Bond...I could read his thoughts on Fleming's work all day.  Interesting that he wasn't as fond of the climax of YOLT...I recall being VERY caught up in it when I read it as a 12 year old, too many years ago...really looking forward to reading it again someday soon.  Amis's comments definitely have me looking forward to it.  But I just finished DAD so it's going to be a while until I get to YOLT...

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Re: Unfinished Fleming Manuscript Rumour about Kingsley Amis' Colonel Sun?

caractacus potts wrote:

aside from the McClory digression (my fault, and there's plenty other threads for that)...

once again we get a clue for how Amis woulda written, or rewritten, ...Golden Gun if he wanted to!
Here he's speculating how Fleming will resolve that cliffhanger, without having yet seen the as-yet-unwritten manuscript.
In the previously posted review of ...Golden Gun he actually expanded on that speculation, saying this, this and this is what should have happened. Also he identifies some of the weaknesses in the novel, and how he had hoped Fleming would have dealt with those had he had lived. Not enough gourmet meals, being one surprising detail as I recall. And of course the desire to see the homosexuality/pistol fetishism angle actually developed in the plot.
In the ...Dossier there was some overlapping criticisms, as well as his general formula for how he understood Fleming's books to have worked.
Then in Colonel Sun we can see his understanding of that formula put into practice, plus certain personal twists all his own: much more political debate, very leisurely travelogue content, graphic torture, more graphic description of the women's anatomy plus slightly more explicit, even kinky sex.

There's enough clues there, almost like a math equation ... an ambitious fanfic writer could write their own version of how Amis's version of ...Golden Gun woulda gone! it might even require two volumes to accommodate the action packed escape from Russia and the kinkier Scaramanga plotline.

Yes, I also enjoy how Amis outlines how he thinks the whole Russia thing could've gone down.  I guess the only issue is, there was no "great escape," or whatever it was he envisioned for Bond -- as we know from the opening of TMWTGG, the dude had been Manchurian Candidated when he left Russia.  So if there WAS an escape, it was just an attempt that failed...

It's curious none of the continuation authors have attempted to fill in this missing chapter of the Bond saga.  I myself, not that anyone asked, even once outlined a story of the whole "Russian brainwashing" saga, inspired by many of the comments I'd read on this very forum.  And of course in my outline the whole programming was overseen by a hotstuff Russian babe, who would present herself as the ultimate "Bondgirl" to the drugged-out captive Bond...all of it leaning on the real-world brainwashing stuff going on in the '60s, as evidenced in the creepy Sirhan Sirhan stuff with the RFK assassination.  I thought it would be a fun way to "take the piss" (as the British say) out of the series staples while at the same time honoring them....anyway it was a fun pipe dream. 

The only issue is there's no "happy ending" for the tale, as we know that Bond leaves Russia programmed to kill M.  Interesting too that Amis's CS is all about Bond saving M, as if repaying this debt.