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DigificWriter wrote:

There really was no way that they could've done Casino Royale as part of the original continuity of the franchise, so doing a reboot was a necessity.


The "original continuity" had always been rather loose, and completely gone long before Craig (about Dalton's time). Brosnan's Bond could not have been the one who got married to Tracy a generation earlier.

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Jag wrote:

The "original continuity" had always been rather loose, and completely gone long before Craig (about Dalton's time). Brosnan's Bond could not have been the one who got married to Tracy a generation earlier.

Comments from M in Goldeneye and Paris Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies prove otherwise.

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And this once again further proves MY timeline theory!

Connery - Moore, One person, married to Tracy
Dalton - Brosnan, One person, married to someone who died
Craig - onwards


Anyway, I don't think they need to reboot with the very next Bond. Craig's Bond is, at the least, late 30s. Let's say by the time we get a new actor, he'll be in his 40's, and this timeline will end once he reaches around 50. So if the next actor does, say, four films, we shouldn't need a reboot for at least another 10 years.

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^ M specifically calls Bond a misogynistic dinosaur and relic of the Cold War in Goldeneye, so that idea doesn't hold up either.

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DigificWriter wrote:
Jag wrote:

The "original continuity" had always been rather loose, and completely gone long before Craig (about Dalton's time). Brosnan's Bond could not have been the one who got married to Tracy a generation earlier.

Comments from M in Goldeneye and Paris Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies prove otherwise.


Those were rather loose comments. I can't recall the encounter with Dr No or marriage to Tracy mentioned!  ajb007/lol

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How is M calling Brosnan's Bond a misogynistic dinosaur and relic of the Cold War and a blatant reference to his Bond having been married - which cannot realistically be anything other than a clear reference to Tracy - representative of "loose comments"?

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The producers seem to like the continuation stories of the past 4 films whereas Dr No - DAD were always "one off stories" albeit loosely connected.

I like the idea of Bond 25's PTS opening with Bond and Swann holidaying somewhere on a coastal road, pulling over and then being machine gunned by Blofeld with Swann getting shot as we roll into the credits.  No need to overtly say whether they were married or not.

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DigificWriter wrote:

How is M calling Brosnan's Bond a misogynistic dinosaur and relic of the Cold War and a blatant reference to his Bond having been married - which cannot realistically be anything other than a clear reference to Tracy - representative of "loose comments"?

Perhaps you can stretch it and take it as a reference to Dalton's Bond, but you can't seriously expect that young Goldeneye guy to have already been around for a generation. They were probably intentionally vague with this, so that some could take it to suggest continuity with all previous Bonds the way you did, if they chose to!

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DigificWriter wrote:
Jag wrote:

The "original continuity" had always been rather loose, and completely gone long before Craig (about Dalton's time). Brosnan's Bond could not have been the one who got married to Tracy a generation earlier.

Comments from M in Goldeneye and Paris Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies prove otherwise.

Hello again, DigificWriter. Can you provide the comment from Paris Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies that proves otherwise?

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Maybe I was wrong about there being a reference to Tracy in TND, but I've only seen it once, so sue me.

Regardless, though, Brosnan's Bond is still clearly meant to be the same character - with the same character history - as was originated by Sean Connery and previously played by George Lazenby, Roger Moore, and Timothy Dalton.

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No maybe about it. You're just wrong, again.
Suing you won't be necessary.

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^ Please drop the prissy attitude.

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Name-calling won't be necessary either. I don't think you're an asset to our site, DigificWriter.
Simply put, your lack of knowledge doesn't put you in a position to make generalisations then ask others to prove you wrong.

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DigificWriter, I think we'd all prefer it if you took your misplaced ego and attitude off to another website please. Go bother the folks at MI6 or something.  ajb007/martini

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(A couple of PMs later...) Yes, that's a good idea, C&D. Bye bye DigificWriter.

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Although it's a long shot, I'm hoping for a Craig-Blofeld Trilogy  ajb007/bond  I'd like a chance to see Craig in his Royal Navy uniform...so far, only he and Lazenby haven't done it.

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Loeffelholz wrote:

I'd like a chance to see Craig in his Royal Navy uniform...so far, only he and Lazenby haven't done it.

And Dalton has not either. So half the Bonds have and half have not.

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MilleniumForce wrote:

And this once again further proves MY timeline theory!

Connery - Moore, One person, married to Tracy
Dalton - Brosnan, One person, married to someone who died
Craig - onwards

Again with the codename or timeline theories. In TWINE Brosnan even mentioned "The World Is Not Enough" to be an old family motto, and in OHMSS it's explained it's the traditional family motto of the Bond herritage. He's supposed to be the same character.
Why is it so hard for some people to accept that?

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Matt S wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:

I'd like a chance to see Craig in his Royal Navy uniform...so far, only he and Lazenby haven't done it.

And Dalton has not either. So half the Bonds have and half have not.

True! Forgot about Tim. Seems to only happen with longer tenures. The uniform is something I enjoy, and I'd like to see Craig try it on. I'd hate for the 'Commander' title to be lost or forgotten.

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I'd like Bond to go to Rio again, having seen MR this afternoon I realized what a truely beautiful location that is.

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Loeffelholz wrote:
Matt S wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:

I'd like a chance to see Craig in his Royal Navy uniform...so far, only he and Lazenby haven't done it.

And Dalton has not either. So half the Bonds have and half have not.

True! Forgot about Tim. Seems to only happen with longer tenures. The uniform is something I enjoy, and I'd like to see Craig try it on. I'd hate for the 'Commander' title to be lost or forgotten.

Was Bond referred to as Commander Bond in his obituary in SF?

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I believe he was...and that would be the only mention of it in his run as 007.

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In my mind, the ideal situation would be to usher in a new Bond, but keep the continuity. Craig is my favorite Bond, and I'll be the last to complain if he sticks around for another one or two, but I think SPECTRE is a great poetic end to his tenure. Rebooting with another actor would be a mistake, since so much effort has been put into setting up and maintaining a stricter continuity since CR. So the way I see it, the best way to go is to cast a great new actor close enough in age to Craig that he can realistically be the same 007 in the same continuity and bring back SF and SP's whitehall crew, Blofeld, and SPECTRE.

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There are golden opportunities for actors like Craig and Waltz over two more films---an epic story arc. I'd actually have them not interact personally very much (if at all) in the next one, using an Emilio Largo-type caper supervisor for #25, and then bring Craig and Waltz back together for a reimagining of the 'Death Collector' scenario from the YOLT novel in #26, which for me would be a perfect way to end this block of storytelling.

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Agreed. It was a tightrope walk to introduce a new Blofeld with all classical elements (Nehru jacket, white cat, scar) in a stylish and "believable" manner - but if they did it in 2015, it had to be with Christoph Waltz. In my opinion, he delivered perfectly. When he got into his helicopter I was actually rooting for him to get away because I wanted him to return. You don't introduce Blofeld only to have him killed in the same movie. I think they left this possibility open and I do hope they'll go down that route. If Waltz is going to commit himself to more Bond movies, however, is another question...

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