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Topic: What changes were made to the original script?

From what I've seen in the leaks versus the full movie, it appears as if the original story was going to be about SPECTRE usurping control of a single document.  Concluding that it was too weak of a plot for Blofeld, they instead went for a 1984-style Big Brother plot with "Nine Eyes".

Also, the villains name was changed from Stockmann (sounds like some kind of Ayn Rand corporate hero) to Franz Oberhauser (in order to make him related to the Hannes Oberhauser).

Bond was originally supposed to kill Blofeld with a shot to the head, but the executives deemed it too brutal.

What other changes did you notice?

Last edited by Julius No M.D. (22nd Nov 2015 20:11)

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Re: What changes were made to the original script?

he did  find a tape of Vesper but never watched it  ajb007/confused

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Re: What changes were made to the original script?

Julius No M.D. wrote:

There was also supposed to be a tape of Vesper that Bond would find but never watch.  Thankfully they didn't include this.  Vesper doesn't need to keep coming back in every Bond movie.

But he DOES find the tape  ajb007/insane

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Julius No M.D. wrote:

There was also supposed to be a tape of Vesper that Bond would find but never watch.  Thankfully they didn't include this.  Vesper doesn't need to keep coming back in every Bond movie.

Maybe in the original script it was a cassette tape and not a VHS tape as in the movie.  ajb007/biggrin  . Just kidding.

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Oh, wow, that was such an insignificant part of the film, I barely remembered it.  Why even include that if they weren't going to do anything with it?

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To remind us its all linked / tie films together

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And to reinforce that he's over her.

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Julius No M.D. wrote:

Oh, wow, that was such an insignificant part of the film, I barely remembered it.  Why even include that if they weren't going to do anything with it?

Was it ? It's there to help tie everything in...

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chrisisall wrote:

And to reinforce that he's over her.

That's not how I see it...but I guess it's all relative and open to interpretation  ajb007/martini

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Sir Miles wrote:
chrisisall wrote:

And to reinforce that he's over her.

That's not how I see it...but I guess it's all relative and open to interpretation  ajb007/martini

Well, he tossed on the table like he had no interest. Didn't he (I've only seen it once so far)?

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Yes, I got the impression Bond was done with Vesper  ajb007/wink

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Yes, I got the impression Bond was done with Vesper  ajb007/wink

So you could just dismiss a woman you loved ?

You heartbreaker you  ajb007/lol

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I think it's meant to represent closure. Two films ago, he'd have killed to see that!

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He probably  doesn't have a video player, it's all bluray or HD downloads
these days. ajb007/biggrin  and made by Sony obviously.

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Julius No M.D. wrote:

Oh, wow, that was such an insignificant part of the film, I barely remembered it.  Why even include that if they weren't going to do anything with it?

It is greatly underplayed because nothing else in the film prepares the reader for it dramatically.  We're just supposed to remember all the other films, or marginally the credits sequence, and rely on those, instead, for the emotional resonance.  Weak writing.  To me, the logical place to bring it up was the conversation between Bond and White.  But it's played off instead more or less like the OHMSS scene where Bond pauses to look at the souvenirs of his previous adventures.

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Gassy Man wrote:

We're just supposed to remember all the other films, or marginally the credits sequence, and rely on those, instead, for the emotional resonance.  Weak writing.

Weak writing? Maybe to US, the real James Bond experts (no sarcasm there, btw), but in thinking about it, for a script written, re-written, and re-written yet AGAIN (by committee no less), I have to say they did a better than average job achieving what they set out to do. The final result was imperfect of course, but I have to give them kudos for coming as close as they did with what I feel is a VERY good entry into the franchise. I can quibble & nit pick with the best of them, however my expectations were totally exceeded with this one, and I call it a win for most of us. ajb007/martini

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Yes, I got the impression Bond was done with Vesper  ajb007/wink

And thank god! It's been 9 years! She betrayed him anyway, that was one of the most frustrating love stories I have ever seen.

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ajb007/lol  as he said himself " The bitch is dead" ........ now for " The next girl"   ajb007/wink

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Thunderpussy wrote:

He probably  doesn't have a video player, it's all bluray or HD downloads
these days. ajb007/biggrin  and made by Sony obviously.

Exactly my thoughts when I saw it. He wants to see it but thinks "bloody VHS tape..."  ajb007/lol

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ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  pity it wasn't a betamax  " How the hell can I watch this ?"

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Buying an old Betamax player off eBay burns time...

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chrisisall wrote:

Buying an old Betamax player off eBay burns time...

Well, they could have included it. Bond goes to a laptop, and buys the Betamax player. It surely wouldn't have slowed down more the Tangier scenes, and would have added a couple of minutes tops,so 150 instead of 148, who cares?. The payoff would be in Bond 25 when he receives the player and plays the tape  ajb007/wink

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It's odd , Mr White used such old equipment. Yet his new place
had all high Tec gear. He must have gotten  Silva in for some IT
advice.  ajb007/wink

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HatThrowingHenchman wrote:

he did  find a tape of Vesper but never watched it  ajb007/confused

Somehow Q forgot to equip Bond's phone with a VCR function  ajb007/shifty

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Thunderpussy wrote:

It's odd , Mr White used such old equipment. Yet his new place
had all high Tec gear.

I thought exactly the same thing...I expected a DVD at least... ajb007/insane

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