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Topic: Why did they remove it?

In the leaked script, the final lines of the movie were apparaently bond saying to swann "we have all the time in the world".

This did not appear on the final film, and I am just wondering why?

I have a theory as to why they cut it:

As some people suspect, there are speculations that Madeline will get murdered by Blofeld at her and bond's wedding in the beginning of bond 25. This may well actually be the case, and so the writers cut the final dialogue because they felt it would be too big a hint that this will happen in the next film - so want to keep it as much as a surprise as possible (although having said that, everyone suspects this will happen, and they hardly kept Moneypenny and Blofeld's identity a secret).

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I believe you are most likely correct...

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I'm actually glad they left that out - I don't want a Bond film to copy another one, it wouldn't even be a hommage anymore

"You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"

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+1  ajb007/cheers , Keep moving forward, always come up with new stuff.
I don't mind the odd nod to a past line, but not reusing a line
from an older Bond.

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Got no problem with that at all

Never fear the event

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I think it would have more to do with concern they won't be able to bring the cast together again for another film.  If they can't, they can just make the next one with hardly any reference to Spectre.

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I don't want to think too much about what will happen in Bond 25.

Ignorance of the future is bliss.

"Hostile takeovers.  Shall we?"

1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. OP 5. TSWLM 6. MR 7. TWINE 8. TMWTGG 9. OHMSS 10. FRWL 11. L&LD 12. SF 13. LtK 14. YOLT 15. DN 16. QoS 17. DAD 18. AVTAK 19. CR 20. TB 21. FYEO 22. DAF (SP to be included later; GE to be rewatched and re-ranked)
1) Brosnan 2) Dalton 3) Moore 4) Connery 5) Lazenby and Craig

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Agent Purple wrote:

I don't want to think too much about what will happen in Bond 25.

Ignorance of the future is bliss.

Thunderbird Too.

This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?

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Given my feelings so far, I'm more than confident that Bond 25
Will be  another great Bond film.  ajb007/martini

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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It doesn't really matter how good it is, it's all about how much people like or don't like it.

As far as I can tell, all EON Bond films are good.

"Hostile takeovers.  Shall we?"

1. TLD 2. TND 3. GF 4. OP 5. TSWLM 6. MR 7. TWINE 8. TMWTGG 9. OHMSS 10. FRWL 11. L&LD 12. SF 13. LtK 14. YOLT 15. DN 16. QoS 17. DAD 18. AVTAK 19. CR 20. TB 21. FYEO 22. DAF (SP to be included later; GE to be rewatched and re-ranked)
1) Brosnan 2) Dalton 3) Moore 4) Connery 5) Lazenby and Craig

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They're Bond and Beyond !  ajb007/martini

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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The Spectre script, being as thin as it is, does seem like a holdover from some earlier plan to make two films back to back.  That might explain why so much in Spectre just seems like set up, without a lot of integrity to the scenes in resolving a complete story.

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Gassy Man wrote:

The Spectre script, being as thin as it is, does seem like a holdover from some earlier plan to make two films back to back.  That might explain why so much in Spectre just seems like set up, without a lot of integrity to the scenes in resolving a complete story.

Which is why, IMO, it will be a shame if Craig were to walk now, with ESB in custody and Bond's romantic contentment left as loose ends. It would be a curious place for Actor #7 to step in...but I suppose it affords as many opportunities as it does challenges.

Last edited by Loeffelholz (2nd Dec 2015 23:51)

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HatThrowingHenchman wrote:

I'm actually glad they left that out - I don't want a Bond film to copy another one, it wouldn't even be a hommage anymore


I agree - If Craig said those words, it would make me cringe. They already belong to another Bond movie, and the title of the theme song is already borrowed from another Bond movie too. You can only be self-referential so much before becoming totally cliché. Plus, There is very little romance between Bond and Swann in the movie, only enough for a typical bond girl, but not comparable at all to what happened with Tracey (or even Vesper).

The fact that they had actually put such a line in and then cut it just illustrates that the producers are caught in a time warp and have no clear idea about what to do – get Bond stuck in the past, or move him forward. This is manifested throughout Spectre, and lets the whole movie down terribly. In Casino Royale they presented a new Bond that breaks out wit tradition, and in Spectre they are trying to turn Craig into a carbon copy of Moore. Talk about inconsistency and lack of direction!

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Moore never had his head drilled into, so perhaps 'carbon copy' is overstating it?

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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM

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Loeffelholz wrote:
Gassy Man wrote:

The Spectre script, being as thin as it is, does seem like a holdover from some earlier plan to make two films back to back.  That might explain why so much in Spectre just seems like set up, without a lot of integrity to the scenes in resolving a complete story.

Which is why, IMO, it will be a shame if Craig were to walk now, with ESB in custody and Bond's romantic contentment left as loose ends. It would be a curious place for Actor #7 to step in...but I suppose it affords as many opportunities as it does challenges.

I agree.  I enjoyed Spectre more than Skyfall, but as you know, think the scripts for both are weak.  But, I have no qualms about Craig or the cast, the best overall in decades.  I appreciate that the script at least gave Craig the chance to emote with a greater range than previously. 

I'm all but certain that Craig will return for Spectre.  They're going to have to pay him considerably more, and probably bankroll some other films he wants to do, and I have the feeling the next one will be his last.  It's frustrating that issues on the production side have hampered the films more than the artistic -- in the past, to me, the case was often the other way around.

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Loeffelholz wrote:

Moore never had his head drilled into, so perhaps 'carbon copy' is overstating it?


It isn't - the scripts are modified, you wouldn't want the script to be a carbon copy, would you? It's the actor I had in mind. And of course they have not yet fully succeeded, Craig's acting is too wooden for that. But if he stays on for another two movies and co-produces them, safari suits and Tarzan yells from Craig will certainly be the way to go! ajb007/lol

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Jag wrote:
Loeffelholz wrote:

Moore never had his head drilled into, so perhaps 'carbon copy' is overstating it?


It isn't - the scripts are modified, you wouldn't want the script to be a carbon copy, would you? It's the actor I had in mind. And of course they have not yet fully succeeded, Craig's acting is too wooden for that. But if he stays on for another two movies and co-produces them, safari suits and Tarzan yells from Craig will certainly be the way to go! ajb007/lol

Yes, yes. Of course it will  ajb007/rolleyes I hope he does do two more...just for you  ajb007/wink

Last edited by Loeffelholz (3rd Dec 2015 01:17)

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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM

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There's no loose ends in Spectre - most Bond movies finish with a babe in his arms, and we never see her again. And Blofeld is safely behind bars, something that never happened to his earlier incarnations, with a non-parole period of 6 years (presumably). One or two Bond movies will be out before then.

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Jarvio wrote:

In the leaked script, the final lines of the movie were apparaently bond saying to swann "we have all the time in the world".

This did not appear on the final film, and I am just wondering why?

Don't be surprised if Bond 25 is called All The Time In The World.

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HalfMonk HalfHitman wrote:
Jarvio wrote:

In the leaked script, the final lines of the movie were apparaently bond saying to swann "we have all the time in the world".

This did not appear on the final film, and I am just wondering why?

Don't be surprised if Bond 25 is called All The Time In The World.


Please... Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ajb007/frown

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or "all the time in the world is not enough"  ajb007/lol

"You see Mr.Bond, you can't kill my dreams...but my dreams can kill you.Time to face destiny" - "Time to face gravity"

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A story in which Blofeld tries to corner the market in the herb,
to destroy the home baking industry,  and screw up The great
British bake off.  As he now has " All the Thyme  in the world !" ajb007/biggrin

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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ajb007/lol  It'll be sages before we see that one.

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Sorry  I got Caraway-ed   ajb007/takecover

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."