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Based on my response to a film on first viewing, LALD would have to be the one. The blaxploitation style elements, the supernatural stuff, obviously Kananga's inflation at the end, LALD had many weird things that took me by surprise on first viewing and caused me to not enjoy the film much at all. A few years later I rewatched and absolutely loved the very things that I didn't enjoy on the first go.

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Diamonds Are Forever.

And not in a good way, several pointless scenes, weird things going on here and there, and feels more like a spoof Bond film because of the camp.

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I would also go with OHMSS. It's admirable, and tries to be. That in itself is weird for a series all about guilty pleasure. Lazenby, sorry, seems a bit weird, his odd accent and then trying to be a baronet on top of all that. Of course, Blofeld is trying to be someone else too! Then that odd queasy bit on the soundtrack when Bond sees the Piz Gloria gals, ugh!

Don't fancy any of the Bond girls in it either. I fancy Rigg as Mrs Peel but not here.

Another contender is TMWTGG. It's down to its sub-standard mid 70s cheap vibe mainly, the three nipples, naff theme song and rubbish action scenes. Also, no one is really trying to kill Bond for most of it, he just thinks Scaramanga is, assuming he was the one who sent the bullet. It feels like a naff Disney action flick gone wrong.

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OHMSS is amazing. One of the best. But still very weird. Imagine that as a bond film today!it worked for its time.

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NSNA (although not official) - totally strange

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Totally unwatchable  ajb007/mad   ( I have tried many times )

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Must be bad then  ajb007/lol

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Then again I cant watch more then 10 mins of Casino royale 67

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Yes, that's another. I keep trying  every so often but give up very quickly.  ajb007/biggrin

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welshboy78 wrote:

Then again I cant watch more then 10 mins of Casino royale 67

I love how it's so mish-mash...it's just all over the place, but in a good way...plus the music is superb  ajb007/martini

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Sir Miles wrote:
welshboy78 wrote:

Then again I cant watch more then 10 mins of Casino royale 67

I love how it's so mish-mash...it's just all over the place, but in a good way...plus the music is superb  ajb007/martini

I agree with that! I find it much easier to watch the '67 version over the '06 version.

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Sir Miles wrote:
welshboy78 wrote:

Then again I cant watch more then 10 mins of Casino royale 67

I love how it's so mish-mash...it's just all over the place, but in a good way...plus the music is superb  ajb007/martini

ajb007/wink  I can't help but enjoy it, despite myself...and I have the Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass vinyl that has 'Casino Royale'---one of my favorite songs of all time. Guaranteed smile every time I hear it.

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start it where Peter Sellers character is introduced and its a little better
some great individual sequences, specifically the Look of Love sequence in Vesper Lynn's apartment ... if you just showed somebody that, they'd assume it came from a much better film

too bad Sellers walked off the job before they completed his storyline though, otherwise you could just turn it off before Woody Allen appears and you'd actually have a close adaptation of Fleming's plot

great soundtrack all the way through, not just Herb Alpert but Burt Bacharach who wrote it and Dusty Springfield

Wikipedia claims the soundtrack album has a reputation as an audiophile classic, suitable for demonstrating top end hi-fi's ... I agree my own copy of the LP does sound good, but not really complete without shag carpet and aquarium

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Agree with Potts, it's awful from the beginning and the whole tiresome Bond has a stutter thing kills it.

Tune in 40 mins it and it's better. The Sellers thing is funnily covered in The Life and Death of Peter Sellers with Geoffrey Rush. The songs are great but that naff thing where Coop is acting out seducing enemy spies is imo toe curling.

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Yes Casino 67' Is completely, utterly, and totally cooked.  Without question one of the most, if not the most, bizarre and nonsensical film that I ever seen. Chaos. Man the 60s had some mental stuff going on  ajb007/lol Obviously if one were to include is in the official canon then it would unquestionably be the weirdest. But I just can't bring myself to do it so it's still Diamonds for me. Moonraker and Live and Let Die are also pretty weird  ajb007/lol

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An interesting but bizarre thread in itself. Isn't 99.9% of Bond weird? That's the nature of it all - heightened reality.

Metal hands, razor sharp bowler hats, laser beams, shark pools, piranha pools, hollowed out volcanos, voodoo, three nipples, steel teeth, gold painted girls, etc, etc. The list can go on & on.

Even the more 'sensible' Bonds (e.g. FRWL, OHMSS, FYEO, LTK) have their fare share of whacky affectations.

As Timothy Dalton says most amusingly in TLD, "You don't find too many normal people in this business, Q."

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BIG TAM wrote:

An interesting but bizarre thread in itself. Isn't 99.9% of Bond weird? That's the nature of it all - heightened reality.

Metal hands, razor sharp bowler hats, laser beams, shark pools, piranha pools, hollowed out volcanos, voodoo, three nipples, steel teeth, gold painted girls, etc, etc. The list can go on & on.

Even the more 'sensible' Bonds (e.g. FRWL, OHMSS, FYEO, LTK) have their fare share of whacky affectations.

As Timothy Dalton says most amusingly in TLD, "You don't find too many normal people in this business, Q."

Well I suppose you could stretch that sentiment and say that most of cinema is weird  ajb007/lol With space westerns such as Star Wars, serial killer sharks in Jaws, and split personality hoteliers (Psycho) all relatively weird and silly concepts. I suppose when one would say  "weird" it's strictly within the context of the series. As most of those features you've mentioned are relatively standard and regular elements of the series (overblown villian, lair, gadgets, scenarios etc), the question is really about what are the films in the series that stand out from those series tropes and are truly unique or left of field. LALD is a great example which many have mentioned. The supernatural and blacksploitation elements of the film are not at all regular series tropes and thus it makes that entry quite an odd one. But you are of course right, the series is all heightened reality and is not your usual every day stuff  ajb007/smile

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Diamonds are forever

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Weird means very strange, unusual, unexpected.

That's why I have to go with Skyfall. It's the most unbondian of all the films.

There is but one sequence that really is what we would expect of a Bond film. The Macau sequence. The rest is either something else like TDK or totally unusual for Bond like the whole Skyfall sequence.

M dying is probably the weirdest part of plot ever in a Bond film.
Q as hipster nerd and being a total failure at it is another element that would better suit any other common spy/political thriller but Bond. Desmond must have turned in the grave.
No main Bond girl. That's probably the greatest sin, it's bloody Mommy (Dench) who is Craig's "love" interest in this film.

Ironically what is jarring the film most for me (Silva) is the one thing that is typically Bond. OTT acted clownesque villain. Like in TND or DAF for instance.

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Octopussy is pretty weird.
All those bright colours, the circus, and a fantastical vision of India, like something out of Sinbad the Sailor
as well as two different palaces, there's that Cleopatra-style barge
and Bond chased as the prey in a colonial hunting game, complete with elephants
I've never been to India, but does this film really represent it accurately? it seems more like a westerners fantasy vision of Victorian-era exoticism ... aside from the two local agents, brown skinned people are relegated to extras in the market scenes, while white skinned outsiders whup it up in style

then there's all this jiggly-delic sex comedy going on, even as we're supposed to accept the title character as an empowered equal to our hero ("two of a kind")

all this in the follow-up to back-to-basics, true-to-Fleming For Your Eyes Only ... even the scenes set in grey coldwar Berlin are dominated by the circus colours

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Ok.

Weird 'off kilter' - DAF
Weird 'insane' - CR-67
Weird 'Scary' - LALD.

*I'm in my forties and all that voodoo stuff still scares the crap out of me!

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caractacus potts wrote:

all this in the follow-up to back-to-basics, true-to-Fleming For Your Eyes Only ... even the scenes set in grey coldwar Berlin are dominated by the circus colours

I don't understand John Glen's motivation for OP coming off the heels of FYEO and also going head-to-head with Connery in NSNA.

What I would expect is a tougher, more gritty film, with minimal humor.

Don't get me wrong, I think OP whups FYEO soundly in almost every category. (Better villains, better score, better action etc)
However, I can at least understand where FYEO was coming from in trying to get back to basics. No clue what they were trying to do with OP other than make a wildly entertaining Bond film with no restraint.

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Firemass wrote:

I don't understand John Glen's motivation for OP coming off the heels of FYEO and also going head-to-head with Connery in NSNA.

I think Raiders of the Lost Ark came out in between, and was a big influence on Octopussy. The market chase in particular resembles a similar scene in the Indiana Jones movie, the bit where Karen Allen gets kidnapped. But Raiders... did the market chase better, and the whole film works better. I think later scenes in NSNA are also influenced by Raiders..., that film also gets very swashbuckly.
We know Raiders... incorporated the Bond films amongst its influences, alongside the old movie serials. Raiders... even has scenes in a submarine base that look like The Spy Who Loved Me! so maybe Octopussy was paying tribute to its own stylistic protege.

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caractacus potts wrote:

We know Raiders... incorporated the Bond films amongst its influences, alongside the old movie serials. Raiders... even has scenes in a submarine base that look like The Spy Who Loved Me! so maybe Octopussy was paying tribute to its own stylistic protege.

Don't forget that Octopussy seemed to influence later Indiana Jones films Temple of Doom and Last Crusade.
(The gross out dinner scene and the circus train to name a couple examples)

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DAF. Bond in a pink tie. 'Nuff said.

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