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You should watch Calvin Dyson's video on A View To A Kill as to why he thinks it's 'weird'. Its hilarious!  ajb007/lol

1. FYEO 2. TLD 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. OHMSS 6. TSWLM 7. GF  8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. DN 11. SP 12. MR 13. SF  14. CR 15. TB 16. LALD 17. GE 18. YOLT 19. TND 20. TMWTGG 21. TWINE 22. TND 23. DAF 24. DAD

1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig  6. Brosnan

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I agree DAF is pretty weird.  I don't think it's the worst but it's the one that feels the least like a Bond movie.  That makes it somewhat entertaining though, when you're feeling a little bored with the typical Bond-formula film you can always pop it in for a little change of pace.

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Unloved Season wrote:

I agree DAF is pretty weird.  I don't think it's the worst but it's the one that feels the least like a Bond movie.  That makes it somewhat entertaining though, when you're feeling a little bored with the typical Bond-formula film you can always pop it in for a little change of pace.

"Feels least like a Bond movie" depends on what you're used to for Bond films. I grew up watching the 1960s and 1970s Bond films, so compared to those I find that LTK, GE and Craig's first three films feel least like Bond films. They don't feel like DAF, but they don't feel like the 1960s Bond films either. And for the kids today who first saw Craig as Bond, they must be very confused when they watch ANY of the other Bond films. Though when I was young I always thought of DAF when I thought of Bond films, I also thought it was weird. The gorilla part especially!

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I'd definitely say LALD with all that voodoo stuff.

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Weirdest Bond film? Easy, Casino Royale 1967. I dare anyone to make sense of it.

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Revolver66 wrote:

I've been thinking about this a little lately. The series has thrown up a few films with some very strange and quirky moments! So I was wondering what people had as their strangest Bond film? I would have to say that I find Diamonds Are Forever and Moonraker to be the two weirdest, with Diamonds nudging for the top spot. I quite like it, but I just think its bizarre!

What do you guys think?

I haven't read through this whole thread but just had to do an impulse response -- there is no "weirder" movie in the Bond canon than MWTGG, and that is the only possible answer to your question.  It's basically the Drive-In Bond.  Hell, the scene where Bond goes to the c#ck fight is practically stolen from an actual drive-in movie, Wonder Women, which came out the year before.

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OHMSS is the wierdest Bond film. Girls getting hypnotised, psychadelic sound effects, Ruby, Irma Bunt in bed and scaring Bond, Bond talking to a St Bernard.

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onemonk909 wrote:
Revolver66 wrote:

I've been thinking about this a little lately. The series has thrown up a few films with some very strange and quirky moments! So I was wondering what people had as their strangest Bond film? I would have to say that I find Diamonds Are Forever and Moonraker to be the two weirdest, with Diamonds nudging for the top spot. I quite like it, but I just think its bizarre!

What do you guys think?

I haven't read through this whole thread but just had to do an impulse response -- there is no "weirder" movie in the Bond canon than MWTGG, and that is the only possible answer to your question.  It's basically the Drive-In Bond.  Hell, the scene where Bond goes to the c#ck fight is practically stolen from an actual drive-in movie, Wonder Women, which came out the year before.


Not sure it's weird, just not very good, now OHMSS is weird in my view but very good.  It's my Birthday today and it will be my afternoon movie before going out for Dinner.I know it's not everybody's cup of Darjeeling, but it is mine. I love it's oddness.

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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zaphod99 wrote:
onemonk909 wrote:
Revolver66 wrote:

I've been thinking about this a little lately. The series has thrown up a few films with some very strange and quirky moments! So I was wondering what people had as their strangest Bond film? I would have to say that I find Diamonds Are Forever and Moonraker to be the two weirdest, with Diamonds nudging for the top spot. I quite like it, but I just think its bizarre!

What do you guys think?

I haven't read through this whole thread but just had to do an impulse response -- there is no "weirder" movie in the Bond canon than MWTGG, and that is the only possible answer to your question.  It's basically the Drive-In Bond.  Hell, the scene where Bond goes to the c#ck fight is practically stolen from an actual drive-in movie, Wonder Women, which came out the year before.


Not sure it's weird, just not very good, now OHMSS is weird in my view but very good.  It's my Birthday today and it will be my afternoon movie before going out for Dinner.I know it's not everybody's cup of Darjeeling, but it is mine. I love it's oddness.

An afternoon of viewing OHMSS, sounds like the perfect birthday treat  ajb007/smile Happy returns  ajb007/martini  ajb007/martini

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Moonraker IS the weirdest Bond. It's made so much on a whim that until 1 year before release people thought they were going to watch FYEO in 1979

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Italus_NT wrote:

Moonraker IS the weirdest Bond. It's made so much on a whim that until 1 year before release people thought they were going to watch FYEO in 1979

I'm forced to disagree. "A whim" is putting matters too strongly. It was made to capitalise on the success of both the previous Bond film TSWLM and the then-current Star Wars, and succeeded financially on a grand scale. Granted, FYEO was announced at the end of TSWLM but only die-hard Bond fans (such as me, who did notice) would have cared.

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Weirdest for me would be:

Diamonds Are Forever

Live and Let Die

The Man With The Golden Gun

Moonraker

A View To A Kill

Die Another Day

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Moonraker

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I think I replied to this before, but DAF is definitely the weirdest. I dunno, a lot of it just seems trippy. And Blofeld in drag is bizarre, even for a more comedy-esque bond film. Furthermore, the fact that this is a Connery film is the icing on the cake for it to all feel odd and out of place for Connery's Bond. Not that I don't like the film. But it sure is weird.

1 - Avtak, 2 - Op, 3 - Ltk, 4 - Lald, 5 - Fyeo, 6 - Ohmss, 7 - Sf, 8 - Dn, 9 - Ge, 10 - Daf, 11 - Tmwtgg, 12 - Tswlm, 13 - Mr, 14 - Tld, 15 - Yolt, 16 - Sp, 17 - Gf, 18 - Frwl, 19 - Dad, 20 - Qos, 21 - Tnd, 22 - Twine, 23 - Tb, 24 - Cr

1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby

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TMWTGG for me. Third nipples, weird psychedelic  maze, weird henchman

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Diamonds Are Forever for me as well. Not only is the film surreal and tripped-out (why does Blofeld need all those doubles, anyway?) but it's written out of Bond history: the Blofeld in For Your Eyes Only is clearly the Telly Savalas incarnation, permanently crippled from his bobsleigh neck injury. Constructing any sort of cohesive timeline for the Bond films is virtually impossible, but based on that evidence one could argue that Bond suffered a breakdown after Tracy's death and merely imagined the events of DAF.

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Manxman wrote:

...one could argue that Bond suffered a breakdown after Tracy's death and merely imagined the events of DAF.

now this is a theory that should developed, somehow. Not quite codename, but it could acknowledge the different actors as different facets of an evolving personality.

So: Bond had matured somehow, from the casual, winking chickmagnet of the early adventures to someone more serious and ready to take a bride and maybe retire from this dirty damn business. But the trauma of Tracy's death leaves him so griefstricken he has to be locked up in a padded cell in Dr Molony's Private Hospital and heavily sedated, where he hallucinates a fun, harmless adventure as his more innocent, irresponsible younger self.
Thus it's not the audience who demands nostalgic escapism, it's Bond himself, experiencing a type of psychic fugue!
(it is a thing, see Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugue_state )

Then once the extreme grief stage is over, and he is taken of his meds and returns to consensus reality, his sense of identity is a bit scrambled and instead of resuming the more serious self that experienced the trauma, he reinvents himself as insufferably posh and smug and picking up more chicks than ever before, and this shallow attitude gets him through the next 12 years of life.
At least till that night spent with MayDay traumatises him once again into becoming nervous twitchy Bond.

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caractacus potts wrote:

At least till that night spent with MayDay traumatises him once again into becoming nervous twitchy Bond.

That would be tearful misty-eyed Bond...?

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well something stressed him out enough to cause that personality shift from arched eyebrows to misty eyes. Granted, the wrestling match with MayDay happened early in the adventure, he didn't seem to suffer any immediate side-effects. Maybe it was the shame of discovering Q using his surveillance tech to spy on him during intimate moments? He felt so, so violated! by the intrusion of that robot-cam that he underwent another psychic fugue and was never the same Bond again.

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ajb007/lol   Also he changed from " Stiff upper lip " to a more
emotional Celt  ajb007/wink  We Celts are much more emotional

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Don't get me wrong, I love DAF...But something feels very...almost macabre about it. It has a very gloomy, almost depressing atmosphere to it, which makes it somehow unwittingly spooky (as opposed to the calculated over the top spookiness of Live and Let Die). Unlike the next film there's no voodoo or supernatural powers to be found here, yet an ever present, sleazy, shady sort of gloom hangs over the film, a funereal and surreal atmosphere. It has an atmosphere unlike any of the other Bond movies, really.

Let's say we skip OHMSS for a minute and pretend DAF is more a direct sequel to YOLT - The differences become even more profound. YOLT is a truly epic film, the stakes are high, the locations gorgeous and exotic, Connery tan and looking his best if in slightly less than peak physical form, Blofeld is not the cold and calculating thug he is in From Russia With Love, but rather a truly mad diabolical criminal mastermind. Blofeld in DAF seems shoehorned into the plot and the casting of Charles Gray seems such an odd choice. His and Bond's relationship in the film seems more Sherlock and Moriarty than anything else. In YOLT, he seems not to think very highly of Bond and wants him dead; in DAF he seems almost amused - and not really even all that concerned - about Bond's persistence - it's a trifle to him more than any real thorn in his side. SPECTRE seems truly devastated - Bond's basically eliminated everyone capable and he's left with the sadistic and unhinged Wynt and Kidd.

The film just seems to reflect the faded sleaze of the 70s as compared to the glittering 1960s. Blofeld isn't pitting world powers against each other by playing international chess - he's making lasers using diamond smuggling. Bond goes from being the aggressive, seductive lover to laying in a Vegas bed with an ash tray on his chest after a round of lovemaking. Bond is puffy, greying, out of place in the 1970s but not a punchline - but he's clearly an over the hill 00 both physically and mentally it seems.

The whole film really is just surreal, jaded, and oddly depressing and yet at the same time intoxicating. It's silly and over the top - but it has an atmosphere that makes the silliness almost creepy.

Does anyone agree?

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Manxman wrote:

Diamonds Are Forever for me as well. Not only is the film surreal and tripped-out (why does Blofeld need all those doubles, anyway?) but it's written out of Bond history: the Blofeld in For Your Eyes Only is clearly the Telly Savalas incarnation, permanently crippled from his bobsleigh neck injury. Constructing any sort of cohesive timeline for the Bond films is virtually impossible, but based on that evidence one could argue that Bond suffered a breakdown after Tracy's death and merely imagined the events of DAF.

No one ever said DAF was written out of Bond history.

Even in the novels Blofeld was constantly changing his appearance. In Bond's world he'd basically be one of the most wanted terrorists in the world. His voice is different in every incarnation. He looks utterly different from the Telly Savalas version in YOLT; Does that mean YOLT didn't happen either? The only similarities between those two versions is a bald head. Also, Telly Savala's version didn't have an Arab-American accent and I don't think would offer to have bought Bond a delicatessen.

I mean, that's basically saying that every time Moneypenny's actress or Bond's actor changes, a new timeline is created. There's no need to erase movies in the original canon. Bond seems immensely satisified with killing Blofeld in the pre-titles of DAF and his assignment is a personal mission and seems to be of a vendetta nature, at least supporting in part the events of the previous film. After the pre-titles Bond thinks Blofeld is dead and gone and is sent on a much more routine mission. He still wastes no time in trying to kill Blofeld when he discovers Blofeld is behind the diamond smuggling plot.

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Agreed that Blofeld is somewhat chameleonic in the novels, but it's more blatant in the films: he ends OHMSS as a paraplegic, is fully mobile again in DAF and is a paraplegic again in FYEO. That's why I'd argue that DAF seems to exist outside the normal Bond timeline.

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Manxman wrote:

Agreed that Blofeld is somewhat chameleonic in the novels, but it's more blatant in the films: he ends OHMSS as a paraplegic, is fully mobile again in DAF and is a paraplegic again in FYEO. That's why I'd argue that DAF seems to exist outside the normal Bond timeline.

No, in a neck brace and driving a rather large Mercedes ,certainly nor a paraplegic.