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Re: How did M know about Marco Sciara?

Thunderbird 2 wrote:

  (Minus the DB10. Ugly car!!)    ajb007/insane

I'm relieved that I'm not the only one who thought that. ajb007/cheers

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Re: How did M know about Marco Sciara?

Thunderbird 2 wrote:
MarcAngeDraco wrote:

I'm curious to know what your issues are with the computer drive, Patrice's painting victim, Mr White, Blofeld's entrance, etc.

Computer drive - blatent macguffin. Silva could have just hacked the data, as he does M-Manf's files later on. The Computer drive is a weak excuse for the chase sequence. Good chase sequence, but weak reasoning. Why not a deadly bacterium, nuclear material sample, or perhaps powerful but toxic fuel vial? -  Alongside the hacked data would have proved more effective in the chase scenes, and upped the stakes.

It's all part of Silva's plan to lure M and MI6 in, just as the Lektor was. You're right, if he simply wanted the agents name, he would have hacked, but that wasn't his end game.

Patrice's Painting Victim.  - Padding! Who was he, did he have any relevance to the story? If yes what was it? (We know he didn't because there is no reference to it later on at all, when Silva explains everything.) Its more padding to drag out the scene where Bond kills Patrice. Yet a few lines of dialogue could have made good use of the scene in its entirety, including Seravine's involvement.

It's all part of a deleted scene, as you are probably aware, but the visuals do make it pretty clear what's happening. Lure in a buyer, kill him, have the transaction take place at the casino - it's how Silva funds his operations (well, before SP retconned that idea). Plus it's full of intrigue. We don't need Silva to explain every little detail. Too much exposition is boring and suggests audiences aren't clever enough to pick up on the smaller things.

Won't bother with SP... It's not worth debating.  ajb007/lol

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Re: How did M know about Marco Sciara?

MarcAngeDraco wrote:

Yeah I was wondering why no one knew about it. Of course, if C had surveillance on everything, and SPECTRE was behind her death, would he have had access to her files? Why not have told Mallory or Tanner? Or Bond in the car? ................................................
All Bond needed to say was that "M told me to track down Marco Sciarra". And on top of that - why would M send Bond a secret tape, knowing how much grief Bond has put her through - wouldn't she want him to go through the proper channels for once?

I've doctored your quote there a bit but I think the reason M didn't tell anyone else or go through proper channels is she knew that they had been infiltrated and couldn't trust anyone else or put it in 'writing' so to speak.


Mr Martini wrote:

Personally I think it was just a way to have Judy Dench in another Bond movie. They love her so much they just can't let go. What next? Bond having dreams about her? Maybe her Ghost will appear in a future installment? Or maybe she faked her death and is Blofelds right hand women?

I agree with you. Anything to shoe horn Judi Dench in for one last time. I was delighted to see the back of her in Skyfall then she managed to squeeze her way into Spectre ... I think she's going to need a stake through her heart  ajb007/shifty

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Re: How did M know about Marco Sciara?

Lady Rose wrote:
MarcAngeDraco wrote:

Yeah I was wondering why no one knew about it. Of course, if C had surveillance on everything, and SPECTRE was behind her death, would he have had access to her files? Why not have told Mallory or Tanner? Or Bond in the car? ................................................
All Bond needed to say was that "M told me to track down Marco Sciarra". And on top of that - why would M send Bond a secret tape, knowing how much grief Bond has put her through - wouldn't she want him to go through the proper channels for once?

I've doctored your quote there a bit but I think the reason M didn't tell anyone else or go through proper channels is she knew that they had been infiltrated and couldn't trust anyone else or put it in 'writing' so to speak.


Mr Martini wrote:

Personally I think it was just a way to have Judy Dench in another Bond movie. They love her so much they just can't let go. What next? Bond having dreams about her? Maybe her Ghost will appear in a future installment? Or maybe she faked her death and is Blofelds right hand women?

I agree with you. Anything to shoe horn Judi Dench in for one last time. I was delighted to see the back of her in Skyfall then she managed to squeeze her way into Spectre ... I think she's going to need a stake through her heart  ajb007/shifty


M is of course a codename, oh damn it it is a codename. Doh! ajb007/lol

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