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Re: Bond's darkest moments (pre - Craig)

Diabolik wrote:
Jamesbondjr wrote:

It's been mentioned before but the killing of Corrine in Moonraker could have been a scene from The Omen, it's easily the darkest moment of Moore's reign and one of the nastiest (in a good way) scenes in the series.

Yeah it was dark, especially with the music. The track is called "Corrine Put Down" if I'm not mistaken; a great track from one of my favorite Barry scores.

I wonder what ever happened to those evil hounds...

There's probably an agency for evil villains to hire bloodthirsty  guard dogs.

Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

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Re: Bond's darkest moments (pre - Craig)

hehadlotsofguts wrote:
Colonel Shatner wrote:
Jarvio wrote:

Howe's death in AVTAK

I was more weirder out and disgusted when the Walken Uzi'd down scores of employees.

AVTAK has a lot of dark moments;

Tibbett's death

Mine massacre

KGB agent death at the oil well.

Aubergine's death

A surprisingly dark film, given it's Roger as Bond. Think he's said that this is his least  favourite film, because of its dark tone.

^ That right there is why I think it is one of the best Bond films. It is for sure a dark film, preparing us for the Dalton era straight after. The death of the KGB agent at Zorin's oil station was always tough to watch. It is incredibly dark, and this may be disagreed on but I found that scene more dark than Krest's death in LTK.

1. FYEO 2. TLD 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. OHMSS 6. TSWLM 7. GF  8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. DN 11. SP 12. MR 13. SF  14. CR 15. TB 16. LALD 17. GE 18. YOLT 19. TND 20. TMWTGG 21. TWINE 22. TND 23. DAF 24. DAD

1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig  6. Brosnan

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The killing of the agent (forget the name) in the hotel in Port au Prince in QoS. While it isn't an innocent person (like Corrine in MR) it still makes me recoil. I remember hearing a few gasps in the audience at the movies.

Many other deaths fit within the context of what's going on, or made light of - "What a helpful chap".

1. TWINE  2. FYEO  3. MR  4. TLD  5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS  7. DN  8. OP  9. AVTAK  10. TMWTGG  11. QoS 12. GE  13. CR  14. TB  15. FRWL  16. LTK  17. GF  18. SF  19. LaLD  20. YOLT  21. TND  22. DAD  23. DAF.

"If you'll forgive me, that's a little too scented for my palate."

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heartbroken_mr_drax wrote:

The killing of the agent (forget the name) in the hotel in Port au Prince in QoS. While it isn't an innocent person (like Corrine in MR) it still makes me recoil. I remember hearing a few gasps in the audience at the movies.

Many other deaths fit within the context of what's going on, or made light of - "What a helpful chap".

The one you mentioned in QOS just made Daniel Craig out to be a ruthless killer for no particular reason. Whereas with Timothy Dalton in LTK, he doesn't actually kill someone physically really, and lets the villain take care of that.

1. FYEO 2. TLD 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. OHMSS 6. TSWLM 7. GF  8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. DN 11. SP 12. MR 13. SF  14. CR 15. TB 16. LALD 17. GE 18. YOLT 19. TND 20. TMWTGG 21. TWINE 22. TND 23. DAF 24. DAD

1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig  6. Brosnan

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Re: Bond's darkest moments (pre - Craig)

Wadsy wrote:
hehadlotsofguts wrote:
Colonel Shatner wrote:

I was more weirder out and disgusted when the Walken Uzi'd down scores of employees.

AVTAK has a lot of dark moments;

Tibbett's death

Mine massacre

KGB agent death at the oil well.

Aubergine's death

A surprisingly dark film, given it's Roger as Bond. Think he's said that this is his least  favourite film, because of its dark tone.

^ That right there is why I think it is one of the best Bond films. It is for sure a dark film, preparing us for the Dalton era straight after. The death of the KGB agent at Zorin's oil station was always tough to watch. It is incredibly dark, and this may be disagreed on but I found that scene more dark than Krest's death in LTK.

I found the KGB agent's death at the oil well easier to watch than Krest's death. The KGB agent's death was over in a flash, whereas Krest's death was drawn out.

Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

" I don't listen to hip hop!"

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Fair enough. Still can't help but get a little disturbed by that scene, just shows how deranged Zorin is.

1. FYEO 2. TLD 3. LTK 4. FRWL 5. OHMSS 6. TSWLM 7. GF  8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. DN 11. SP 12. MR 13. SF  14. CR 15. TB 16. LALD 17. GE 18. YOLT 19. TND 20. TMWTGG 21. TWINE 22. TND 23. DAF 24. DAD

1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig  6. Brosnan

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Wadsy wrote:

Fair enough. Still can't help but get a little disturbed by that scene, just shows how deranged Zorin is.

The sight of Klottkoff struggling in vain before he is dropped, make it disturbing for me. That scream gives me chills too!

Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

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hehadlotsofguts wrote:

I found the KGB agent's death at the oil well easier to watch than Krest's death.

Krest's death is horrific, but it's grotesque and then followed up with a brilliant one-liner. If anything, it's funny!

1. TWINE  2. FYEO  3. MR  4. TLD  5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS  7. DN  8. OP  9. AVTAK  10. TMWTGG  11. QoS 12. GE  13. CR  14. TB  15. FRWL  16. LTK  17. GF  18. SF  19. LaLD  20. YOLT  21. TND  22. DAD  23. DAF.

"If you'll forgive me, that's a little too scented for my palate."

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The darkest moment probably in any Bond film for me is Aki's death. The poison slowly falling down the string and then landing on her lips. It is pretty difficult to watch her dying... It's Aki, everyone loves Aki. Having said that Bond seems to get over her death pretty quickly so maybe I should just get over it  ajb007/lol

1.ohmss  2.cr  3.frwl  4.ltk  5.gf  6.tswlm  7.sf  8.op  9.tld  10.dn  11.lald  12.tb  13.fyeo  14.ge  15.mr  16.yolt  17.tnd  18.avtak  19.sp  20.twine  21.qos  22.tmwtgg  23.daf  24.dad

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I think quarrels Death in Dr No is disturbing being burnt alive by that motorised dragon and also Kerim bays death in FRWL too.

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Tobias wrote:

I think quarrels Death in Dr No is disturbing being burnt alive by that motorised dragon and also Kerim bays death in FRWL too.

Bonds anger and barely controlled rage is beautifully played.

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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The Wicker Man wrote:

The darkest moment probably in any Bond film for me is Aki's death. The poison slowly falling down the string and then landing on her lips. It is pretty difficult to watch her dying... It's Aki, everyone loves Aki. Having said that Bond seems to get over her death pretty quickly so maybe I should just get over it  ajb007/lol

I think Bond grieved for Aki properly, when the mission was over.

Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation?"

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Wadsy wrote:

Whereas with Timothy Dalton in LTK, he doesn't actually kill someone physically really, and lets the villain take care of that.

Well there is the brutal killing of Ed Killifer, the corrupt DEA agent, and of course the satisfying harpoon revenge kill, for killing Sharky. Not to mention setting Franz Sanchez on fire!

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Agreed, Dalton's Bond could be an effective cold-blooded killer, when needed.  ajb007/martini

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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I'm going to make things difficult for myself and name the darkest moments from each film:

DN - Quarrel burned alive.
FRWL - SPECTRE agent garroted as part of a training excercise.
GF - Mr Solo crushed in car after being shot.
TB - Largo's henchman chucked into shark pool and eaten.
YOLT - Aki's death.
OHMSS - 'He had alot of guts'.
DAF - Plenty O' Toole found drowned in swimming pool.
LALD - Rosie Carver's death.
TMWTGG - Andrea Anders off screen death and discovery.
TSWLM - Bond's dark kill of Sandor off the roof.
MR - Corrine mauled by dogs.
FYEO - Bond kicking Largo's car off the cliff.
OP - Vijay killed by buzzsaw.
AVTAK - Zorin gunning down his workers in the mine.
TLD - Necros kills Saunders at the fair.
LTK - Krest's death.
GE - Disovering Xenia's victim in the wardrobe.
TLD - Paris' off screen death.
TWINE - Bond killing Elektra/
DAD - I guess Grave's going through the propeller is as bad as it gets?
CR - Staircase scene strangling to death.
QOS - Stabbing Slate with scissors.
SF - Serverine's death.
SP - Hinx gauging guys eyes out.

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