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I think the chapter with the car race uses the
Fleming material.

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But one can not say which part in the chapter is from Fleming and which from Horowitz.
Or did Anthony Horowitz mentioned it somewhere?

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Trempo wrote:

Hello,
I am new here and have a question regarding the unpublished Fleming material in Trigger Mortis.
Can anyone tell me which part of the story is from Fleming?
Or is this impossible to determine?

Thunderpussy wrote:

I think the chapter with the car race uses the
Fleming material.

he discusses it a bit in the Acknowledgements section.
He says there is a chunk in Chapter Two  of dialog and description, where Bond meets with M and Tanner, that is Flemings actual writing, "about 400 or 500 words". (400 words is not much at all. This post is maybe 300 words.)
The title of Chapter Seven ("Murder on Wheels") is the same as the proposed title for the tv episode, and I would guess this chapter covers the climax of Fleming's plot outline. He also says Fleming's outline had Bond being trained for the race by real life driver Stirling Moss, and Horowitz decided to replace the real life historical person with a new fictional character. (Actually this bit of the Acknowledgements consists largely of a genuine Fleming quote from his synopsis, giving a taste of Fleming's writing style in these plot outlines ... it is not prose)
So I guess the training scenes, as well as the race itself, were fleshed out from Fleming's barebones outline. None of the stuff with Pussy Galore, and presumably nothing that happens after the race.

But yeh, it is not clear which words are Fleming's, and since my paperback has Fleming's name in letters almost as big as Horowitz's, I think it would be more honest to specify exactly what Fleming's contribution is. Maybe include the original plot outline as a bonus feature so we can compare?

Personally I would love a book just of Fleming's various unfinished Bond related fragments, no need to complete them.


On the positive side I just noticed Horowitz says there were five remaining plot outlines from the abandoned tv series aside from the three stories that were used in FYEO. So where'd he get the material for a prequel from then? Was there to be an origin episode for the tv series, or has he got hold of completely different unfinished Fleming material?

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caractacus potts wrote:

Maybe include the original plot outline as a bonus feature so we can compare?

I believe there is a special edition that does just that.

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caractacus potts wrote:

Maybe include the original plot outline as a bonus feature so we can compare?

Barbel wrote:

I believe there is a special edition that does just that.

well then I have the wrong edition! Barbel do you have this special edition?
I was thinking: if it was to be a 1/2 hr series, like the first season of Danger Man, those scenes we do know about would add up to about a half hour of plot.
Act 1: Bond meets with M and Tanner
Act 2: training scenes with real life celebrity race car driver
Act 3: the big race
the only thing missing is, I woulda thought Fleming'd have written a part for a Bond Girl.

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No, I don't unfortunately.

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I believe Waterstones sold it, here is some info: http://www.thebookbond.com/2015/08/wate … igger.html

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Here in Spain we are still waiting even for TM, so imagine that special edition...

Could anyone make some photographs of that "Fleming material" and send me via personal message? Of course, they would be just for investigation and research, I won't publish them anywhere. Thanks.  ajb007/martini

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awesome! now I know what cover to look for
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qtLZUMMIzxI/VcoDWhEISYI/AAAAAAAAe3k/imzQsxcQVzI/s320/9781409159131-2.jpg
looks a bit like Gravity's Rainbow, except its black instead of blue and the rocket is oriented horizontally
(if you buy Gravity's Rainbow by mistake it is the better book, but not otherwise Bondlike.)
https://d3myrwj42s63no.cloudfront.net/180/014/018/859/2/0140188592.jpg
...though I note the wording is still vague about this "exclusive content from Ian Fleming". And the only comment that claims to have seen the book complains there is nothing extra. Has anybody else actually got a copy of this and can confirm that it does indeed include Fleming's original unused plot outline as an extra?

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I haven't got it, but I saw it in a Waterstone's and the black cover is the one with the extra Fleming.

Here is one on eBay for £6.40 right now: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre … 2851025033

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ggl007 wrote:

Here in Spain we are still waiting even for TM, so imagine that special edition...
Could anyone make some photographs of that "Fleming material" and send me via personal message? Of course, they would be just for investigation and research.

Look in your mailbox...
And if anyone else is curious, feel free to PM me.

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Thanks a lot, Revelator!!

FYI: Talking with Horowitz... enter Dennis Calero!  ajb007/amazed  ajb007/biggrin  ajb007/martini

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Bond on the 1950s French Riviera sounds sweet. Oh, Yes. Can't wait.

I think it takes cojones to write a prequel to CR. Props to Horowitz. I hope he can do something interesting.

Trigger Mortis had lots of good stuff in it. It was just a relief to get Bond back in the 1950s after some of the truly awful novels with modern settings.

Please get someone good to read the audiobook. The actor who read TM put me to sleep before the end of Chapter One. Sounded like he'd taken some Camomile tea to relax before starting the read.

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I wonder how much it would cost to have Daniel Craig read it? He's done video games, why not books? He doesn't have to get dressed up or work out, just vocalize Bond. Could be cool.

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JET007 wrote:

I wonder how much it would cost to have Daniel Craig read it? He's done video games, why not books? He doesn't have to get dressed up or work out, just vocalize Bond. Could be cool.

That would be great. He has the best voice of all the Bonds so far.

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zaphod99 wrote:
JET007 wrote:

I wonder how much it would cost to have Daniel Craig read it? He's done video games, why not books? He doesn't have to get dressed up or work out, just vocalize Bond. Could be cool.

That would be great. He has the best voice of all the Bonds so far.

Well...Moore in his mid Bond days comes close for me.

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The name's Bond and Beyond. It's currently on hold, though.

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zaphod99 wrote:
JET007 wrote:

I wonder how much it would cost to have Daniel Craig read it? He's done video games, why not books? He doesn't have to get dressed up or work out, just vocalize Bond. Could be cool.

That would be great. He has the best voice of all the Bonds so far.


Shurely you jesht?

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Dirty Punker wrote:
zaphod99 wrote:
JET007 wrote:

I wonder how much it would cost to have Daniel Craig read it? He's done video games, why not books? He doesn't have to get dressed up or work out, just vocalize Bond. Could be cool.

That would be great. He has the best voice of all the Bonds so far.

Well...Moore in his mid Bond days comes close for me.

Agreed, Roger had a great narrator's voice too.  ajb007/martini

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Do we have a date for the new book yet?

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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May 31st. (Almost Fleming's birthday, May 28th)

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"Do we have a date for the new book yet?"

I was going to say,  I'm free on the 27th but I'll expect
dinner and dancing. I'm High Maintenance but I think I'm
worth it.  ajb007/wink


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Can't wait to get stuck in to another Bond adventure.  ajb007/martini

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Thunderpussy wrote:

"Do we have a date for the new book yet?"

I was going to say,  I'm free on the 27th but I'll expect
dinner and dancing. I'm High Maintenance but I think I'm
worth it.  ajb007/wink


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Can't wait to get stuck in to another Bond adventure.  ajb007/martini

I've got my Macallan and Vespers ready!

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zaphod99 wrote:
JET007 wrote:

I wonder how much it would cost to have Daniel Craig read it? He's done video games, why not books? He doesn't have to get dressed up or work out, just vocalize Bond. Could be cool.

That would be great. He has the best voice of all the Bonds so far.

Don't want to disagree with you all, but I'd put forward Toby Stephens as the man for the job -- I think he does a great job of voicing Bond in the BBC radio plays.

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https://www.thejamesbonddossier.com/new … zon-uk.htm

The cover art for the UK edition of Forever And a Day has emerged in recent days, and my anticipation for the novel is starting to grow. On first impressions, this cover is certainly not going to rank amongst my favourite James Bond novel covers, but to be fair I can't think of many continuation novel covers besides the early Gardners that stand out for me. So overall, I guess this new cover isn't bad. I like how the yacht and wake has a bullet-like appearance.

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There is also a little teaser video for the new novel out now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZjAltbcRwc