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I don't remember any Bond film in London where I grew up having an intermission but when I saw GF in Amsterdam in the mid 70's  there definitely was one when JB crashed the DB5.

Most of the intermissions I remember were when the likes of The Great Race, Mad Mad World and Lawrence Of Arabia were shown.
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I saw "Inglorious Bastereds"  at a cinema in Reykjavik once.  There was an intermission for comercials,  it seemed to be the norm there. The Icelanders are clearly still barbarians  ajb007/amazed

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Firemass wrote:

In the spirit of this thread I re-watched Where Eagles Dare tonight.
Just as I remembered, the film totally rules until the 1 hour 40 minute mark and then almost becomes unwatchable.

After the interrogation scene with Cartwright Jones is over I get the urge to skip the next 30 minutes and cut to the chase with the red bus.

1. Smith and Shaffer assisinate everyone in the room, yet take 3 hostages?! They are in no position to do so. Just kill them like the rest!!! Besides, it's not like Smith is too keen on courtroom trials anyway. It's such a hassle to keep an eye on them and of course things go wrong.

2. Why do they think a big diversion is needed in order to escape?
They could just walk out of there and no one would even notice. Everyone who knew the truth would be dead in that room and not discovered until the next morning. No need for dynamite and creating tons of chaos. I thought this was a stealth mission.

3. Clint sneaking up on the guy with the knife is so retarded. Why not use the silenced pistol? Then right after he has sounded the alarm, Burton easily shoots him from the doorway. OMG
Triggering the alarm has a huge effect on the plot which draws more attention to this gaffe.

Glad to hear you gave it a rewatch!

I would say that you're right that the first half is the stronger part of the film. It's more stealth and espionage and when everything goes to hell in the second half it does become a bit implausible as you have pointed out. I actually rewatched OHMSS after watching this and I would have to say that Majesty's is the stronger film. Though outside of the Bond fan community it would seem that WED is rated higher. Still WED is a cracker of a film  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

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WED has just started on itv4  ajb007/wink

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18 year old me was very, very stupid. I got a tattoo on my leg and I hate it. I started the process of having it removed but it is beyond painful. They literally burn you over and over. I have decided to get a cover up of the gondola from WED with the men on the top. It needs to be tall so I think it will work out well because I can have the mountain and river included so it does not look totally random. Maybe underneath I will have Clint put in a heart  ajb007/lol  Anyway no one in real life cares and I am really excited so I thought I would post it.

And just because. A small(er) scale set.

https://s24.postimg.cc/yji2v8a5t/Where-_Eagles-_Dare-_Schloss-_Adler.jpg

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VesperMelograno wrote:

18 year old me was very, very stupid. I got a tattoo on my leg and I hate it. I started the process of having it removed but it is beyond painful. They literally burn you over and over. I have decided to get a cover up of the gondola from WED with the men on the top. It needs to be tall so I think it will work out well because I can have the mountain and river included so it does not look totally random. Maybe underneath I will have Clint put in a heart  ajb007/lol  Anyway no one in real life cares and I am really excited so I thought I would post it.

And just because. A small(er) scale set.

https://s24.postimg.cc/yji2v8a5t/Where-_Eagles-_Dare-_Schloss-_Adler.jpg

Share a picture of it on here when you get it done  ajb007/smile

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Will do! I am really excited!

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Fans of Where Eagles Dare and Bond should certainly check out the 1963 episode of The Saint called The Sporting Chance. It features Darren Nesbitt who is most famous for playing the SS Officer in Eagles. He is seriously so great! It was such a treat to see him in another role. I am surprised he was not a bigger star because he has so much charisma and charm as a villain.


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I did watch this film on television only a few days ago. It is the first time I have seen the film. I laughed at how they could contact England from Germany without problem in such a area they were transmitting from with a little aerial from a ordinary radio! I also laughed at the explosive! I wouldn't think that they would use sticks of explosive like the cartoon! It was also very funny how they could blow things up like the brigade by just sticking the explosive on in just a short time. The plot was very not realistic also I think they went to much trouble to get the names of the agent! I enjoyed this film but not for the reason I think that other people do.

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Joshua wrote:

I did watch this film on television only a few days ago. It is the first time I have seen the film. I laughed at how they could contact England from Germany without problem in such a area they were transmitting from with a little aerial from a ordinary radio! I also laughed at the explosive! I wouldn't think that they would use sticks of explosive like the cartoon! It was also very funny how they could blow things up like the brigade by just sticking the explosive on in just a short time. The plot was very not realistic also I think they went to much trouble to get the names of the agent! I enjoyed this film but not for the reason I think that other people do.

I always enjoy reading your posts because you have a very interesting perspective.  This is a favorite of mine, but it is outlandish. That is part of what makes it so amazing.

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Well, that's one way of looking at it. I think Joshua's outlook is the right one, I think when they made it they knew it was totally ridiculous, but maybe that makes it The Expendables of its day.

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When I said brigade I meant bridge. In real life it would take many hours to demolish  that bridge and more than 2 men. I think this film was entertaining because of all the mistakes. I also did see the guns of navaron film and the force ten from navaron films as I am interested in world war 2. These films were by the same writer of the books. They were all very entertaining to me because they were so silly!

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I also laughed when I saw Roger Moore using the little brush to send morse code in live and let die. This reminded me of that film when I saw broadsword calling danny boy!

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Napoleon Plural wrote:

Well, that's one way of looking at it. I think Joshua's outlook is the right one, I think when they made it they knew it was totally ridiculous, but maybe that makes it The Expendables of its day.

I think it is darn near a perfect movie. Granted I am very biased and will love anything with  a gondola, Ingrid Pitt and dirndls.

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Where Eagles Dare is just awesome! WWII Action Adventure, Fantastic Cast (including Miss Pitt ajb007/heart  ajb007/heart  ajb007/heart ), Snow, Cable Cars.. What's not to love?!! ajb007/cheers

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I enjoy both Where Eagles Dare and Guns of Navarone, both fun and gloriously unrealistic. I find it funny that the two members of the sabotage team in Guns of Navarone who look the least tough in the movie (David Niven and Anthony Quayle) were WWII commandoes in real life. Niven was first in Army Commandoes, later a squadron leader in the Phantom Unit. Quayle was a SOE agent in Yugoslavia.

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It's a Ripping Yarn !  ajb007/cheers

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Firemass wrote:

Fans of Where Eagles Dare and Bond should certainly check out the 1963 episode of The Saint called The Sporting Chance. It features Darren Nesbitt who is most famous for playing the SS Officer in Eagles. He is seriously so great! It was such a treat to see him in another role. I am surprised he was not a bigger star because he has so much charisma and charm as a villain.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0693583/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

Before I ever saw Where Eagles Dare I knew Derren Nesbitt from his role as Fabian in the WWI dogfighting drama The Blue Max. He plays a thoroughly likeable German fighter pilot in that film, who sadly snuffs it early on in the film. I saw Where Eagles Dare several times before realising that it was the same actor playing the SS fiend Von Hapen.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

It's a Ripping Yarn !  ajb007/cheers

All of which are currently being repeated on the Yesterday channel...and bloody good they are too  ajb007/martini

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Where Eagles Dare is a great film...  but it goes on for a year and a day! They don't make them like that anymore. Pity.

Derren Nesbit has a sad distinction, he is the last surviving No 2 from The Prisoner.
A great performance, he played one of the more machiavellian leaders in 'The Village!'

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Sir Miles wrote:
Thunderpussy wrote:

It's a Ripping Yarn !  ajb007/cheers

All of which are currently being repeated on the Yesterday channel...and bloody good they are too  ajb007/martini

Agreed 100%, loved those.

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Golrush007 wrote:
Firemass wrote:

Fans of Where Eagles Dare and Bond should certainly check out the 1963 episode of The Saint called The Sporting Chance. It features Darren Nesbitt who is most famous for playing the SS Officer in Eagles. He is seriously so great! It was such a treat to see him in another role. I am surprised he was not a bigger star because he has so much charisma and charm as a villain.


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0693583/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

Before I ever saw Where Eagles Dare I knew Derren Nesbitt from his role as Fabian in the WWI dogfighting drama The Blue Max. He plays a thoroughly likeable German fighter pilot in that film, who sadly snuffs it early on in the film. I saw Where Eagles Dare several times before realising that it was the same actor playing the SS fiend Von Hapen.

Bear with me...

If anyone has seen the Harry Palmer films Funeral In Berlin and Billion Dollar Brain (check out my thread https://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/46150/th … ry-palmer/ for more info) then they will be familiar with the character of Colonel Stok as played by Oscar Homolka:

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https://s9.postimg.cc/w0k1tifdn/aa_oldman_joanna.jpg

In the 70s a film called Spy Story was released, featuring Derren Nesbitt as Colonel Stok:

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I'm not knocking his acting, which was fine (and in a film with many problems- the budget was about £3.47- he wasn't one of them) but he was at least 30 years too young for the part: Colonel Stok is an old man- Homolka was 70'ish while Nesbitt was about 40. For anyone who's read the books (guilty as charged, and I'd ask for several similar offences to be taken into consideration) Oscar Homolka simply IS Colonel Stok- the 60s Harry Palmer movies were exceptionally well cast, from Caine downwards- and any actor would suffer in comparison.

By the way, as far as I'm aware this film has never been released on DVD or Blu-Ray (please, please advise if I'm wrong) and can't be viewed online. I think I may be one of the very few people who watched it in the cinema back in 1976.

PS- again as far as I know, this may be the only film that's been released without a screenwriter credit. It's possible that there wasn't a screenwriter and they simply filmed the book as written. This may be because of the low budget. I'd be happy to be corrected on this point.

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I agree there is no replacing Oscar Homolka as Colonel Stok. I was unaware of the adaptation of Spy Story, and that Stok had been played by Derren Nesbitt. I've read a few Len Deighton novels, but Spy Story is not one of them.

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Well here's a mad fact.. the blonde other than Ingrid Pitt - Mary Ure - played opposite Richard Burton earlier in the gritty down to earth film adaptation of the play Look Back in Anger, 1959.

"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

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Reference the Spy Story film - did this get a national release Barbel? I do not remember it at all and I used to see most movies released at the cinema in those days and living in London virtually every movie was shown somewhere or other - I imagine it played at a fringe cinema and I missed it - I do not remember reading any reviews of it either but then again my memory is probably playing tricks on me again  ajb007/lol

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