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Thank you 7289, taking the safety issues into consideration, I'm going to try casting the beretta grips in a clear resin to give the illusion that they have been removed.
     Regarding the tape, I'm kicking around the idea of duct tape since it was invented in the 40s and used by soldiers during WWII.

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Will you have to replace it ever so often?

"...I have the oddest feeling we will be meeting again sometime..."
-Roger Moore's James Bond. RIP.
I have a YouTube channel on all things Bond (amongst other things, coming soon™).
The name's Bond and Beyond. It's currently on hold, though.

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ajb007/lol

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But it isn't a rifle.  its a pistol stock. It has no serial number, right?  Did you call ATF?  I was just about to order one. ajb007/amazed I have several SBR's and suppressors.  This is the first time hearing it wouldn't be legal.

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Adding a stock to a pistol makes it a short barreled rifle. The KPOS measures 21.65" when fully extended, according to the FAB Defense website. The state of Maryland requires no less than an overall length of 29" if the barrel is less than 16" to make an SBR and you still have to pay the $200 NFA tax stamp. To meet me states requirements, I would need to have a 13.19" barrel on the Glock 17 to make an SBR since 4.5" of the barrel is covered by the KPOS. A company called IGB makes a 16" barrel for the glock so you can make it into a carbine, but the reviews aren't very favorable.

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BCFDRay wrote:

Thank you 7289, taking the safety issues into consideration, I'm going to try casting the beretta grips in a clear resin to give the illusion that they have been removed.
     Regarding the tape, I'm kicking around the idea of duct tape since it was invented in the 40s and used by soldiers during WWII.

Casting "clear" grip panels is a good idea. Much better than a true "skeleton" grip!

I had no idea that "duct tape" was used by commandos... presumably it was black back then. Are there any references/photographs of tape being used by UK commandos in WW2 to improve the "grip" on personal weapons?

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7289 wrote:
BCFDRay wrote:

Thank you 7289, taking the safety issues into consideration, I'm going to try casting the beretta grips in a clear resin to give the illusion that they have been removed.
     Regarding the tape, I'm kicking around the idea of duct tape since it was invented in the 40s and used by soldiers during WWII.

Casting "clear" grip panels is a good idea. Much better than a true "skeleton" grip!

I had no idea that "duct tape" was used by commandos... presumably it was black back then. Are there any references/photographs of tape being used by UK commandos in WW2 to improve the "grip" on personal weapons?

I think originally it was a material based tape impregnated with rubber type substance.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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The closest modern tape that would have been used by Bond in the novels is the tightly woven black hockey stick tape.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/IMG_1432_zpsnaxo3lga.png

..................http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/Asp9mmSIG-1-2.jpg...............

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7289 wrote:
BCFDRay wrote:

Thank you 7289, taking the safety issues into consideration, I'm going to try casting the beretta grips in a clear resin to give the illusion that they have been removed.
     Regarding the tape, I'm kicking around the idea of duct tape since it was invented in the 40s and used by soldiers during WWII.

Casting "clear" grip panels is a good idea. Much better than a true "skeleton" grip!

I had no idea that "duct tape" was used by commandos... presumably it was black back then. Are there any references/photographs of tape being used by UK commandos in WW2 to improve the "grip" on personal weapons?

Originally it was an "Army Green" almost like OD

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Asp9mm wrote:

The closest modern tape that would have been used by Bond in the novels is the tightly woven black hockey stick tape.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/IMG_1432_zpsnaxo3lga.png

Your collection amazes me  ajb007/martini

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Awesome! Makes sense as it is a darker profile than other tapes I've seen.

Somebody gonna get shot tonight!

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Asp9mm wrote:

The closest modern tape that would have been used by Bond in the novels is the tightly woven black hockey stick tape.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/IMG_1432_zpsnaxo3lga.png

Looks a lot like the "baseball bat" tape I used. The tape I bought was corrosive, and will rust steel after a while. Since many Beretta pistols have aluminum frames that might not be much of an issue for some. I just wrapped some vinyl tape on the handle first then carefully covered the vinyl with the bat tape.

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The stuff I used on that was actually a 1958 cloth electricians tape.

..................http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/Asp9mmSIG-1-2.jpg...............

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Nice Beretta Asp9mm! Your Big Crown, Explorer dial Sub isn't that bad either  ajb007/bond. I approve  ajb007/martini.
What was that old quote? "A gun...and a watch. I thought Christmas came once a year."

"...I have the oddest feeling we will be meeting again sometime..."
-Roger Moore's James Bond. RIP.
I have a YouTube channel on all things Bond (amongst other things, coming soon™).
The name's Bond and Beyond. It's currently on hold, though.

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Collecting props from the books was where my screen prop collecting began.  I have about ten boxes like this with other items in.  I know the evidence is stronger in favour of the Sub being used in the literary novels, but I love the Exp 1016.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/IMG_1558_zps7w9owfoe.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/IMG_1559_zpssycqpahi.jpg

..................http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/Asp9mmSIG-1-2.jpg...............

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Fantastic stuff, Asp.

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On 7289's caution about using a live fire handgun without the grip panels, I said I would attempt to cast the beretta grips in a transparent resin to give the illusion of the skeleton grips. Well, some packages were dilivered yesterday, the baby is asleep, and wife at work  ajb007/smile

https://s15.postimg.cc/58v0shr87/20170422_135523.jpg


https://s11.postimg.cc/k4hnzvutr/20170422_135544.jpg


https://s3.postimg.cc/audju6s4v/20170422_135557.jpg


https://s1.postimg.cc/g5cdkshx7/20170422_140700.jpg


https://s30.postimg.cc/gt6z8vtx9/20170422_142605.jpg

We'll see how the molds come out in 6 hours!

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Asp9mm wrote:

Collecting props from the books was where my screen prop collecting began.  I have about ten boxes like this with other items in.  I know the evidence is stronger in favour of the Sub being used in the literary novels, but I love the Exp 1016.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/IMG_1558_zps7w9owfoe.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/IMG_1559_zpssycqpahi.jpg

I'm in awe as per usual!

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Asp9mm wrote:

Collecting props from the books was where my screen prop collecting began.  I have about ten boxes like this with other items in.  I know the evidence is stronger in favour of the Sub being used in the literary novels, but I love the Exp 1016.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/IMG_1558_zps7w9owfoe.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a77/darkcrown_1969/PRIVATE/IMG_1559_zpssycqpahi.jpg

You know, I think that the Explorer-dial Sub being the perfect compromise as it combines the beautiful dial from the Explorer while still having the usability of deep-sea diving with its water-resistance. It's like the Rolex version of the Planet Ocean. If I ever dreamt up a secret agent, he would most certainly wear that type of watch.
I love your collection, ASP but the boxes are a bit...excessive for my tastes. I would store them in places where they could be (subtly) seen if I ever had a collection like that, but thats my personal taste.

"...I have the oddest feeling we will be meeting again sometime..."
-Roger Moore's James Bond. RIP.
I have a YouTube channel on all things Bond (amongst other things, coming soon™).
The name's Bond and Beyond. It's currently on hold, though.

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BCFDRay anxious to see the results!

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I had a little bit of flash on the top of the mold so it looks a bit rough, but the important area was very sharp and crisp

https://s4.postimg.cc/sbj5y75q1/20170422_203648.jpg

And the resin has been poured


https://s7.postimg.cc/520gx71fr/20170422_210810.jpg

It's going to be a long 18-24 hours!

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Success! This side is a little tacky still, once it's completely dried and i dremel the sides, I'll mount and post the finished product (minus the tape, I'm still debating)
https://s9.postimg.cc/ga000sxjf/20170423_170724.jpg

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Looking good! Can't wait to see what the finished article looks like  ajb007/martini

"How was your lamb?" "Skewered. One sympathises."

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Sanding, finishing, and tapping will have to wait until tomorrow, but I'm pleased so far with the results.
https://s22.postimg.cc/jy4085my5/5864.jpg

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More Paperwork then.  Ugh  I have several SBR's and suppressors so what's another $200.00.  Govt extortion is what it is!!!

BCFDRay wrote:

Adding a stock to a pistol makes it a short barreled rifle. The KPOS measures 21.65" when fully extended, according to the FAB Defense website. The state of Maryland requires no less than an overall length of 29" if the barrel is less than 16" to make an SBR and you still have to pay the $200 NFA tax stamp. To meet me states requirements, I would need to have a 13.19" barrel on the Glock 17 to make an SBR since 4.5" of the barrel is covered by the KPOS. A company called IGB makes a 16" barrel for the glock so you can make it into a carbine, but the reviews aren't very favorable.