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I think it's time for another female agent to meet up with Bond again. We haven't had one since Jinx, and I think it's time for another one to fix the problem with the last one.

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Charmed & Dangerous wrote:

...I'm all in favour of a strong female counterpart, though not necessarily an agent; Vesper, Camille and Madeleine Swann are all accomplished, interesting counterparts.

I was just thinking about Swann in this sense
we've had several female agents over the years, from Anya Amasova through Jinx
and we've had a few amateur adventurers, usually on missions of revenge, like Melina Havelock or Camille
I think Swann has potential as the latter. She is the daughter of one of CraigBonds greatest foes, and tells him she learned as a child how to shoot guns and defend herself. she just chooses not to be part of that world anymore. Yet when Bond is losing the fight to Hinx in the train, it is Swann who shows up with the gun she'd said she wouldn't use and saves Bonds life. So the character has the background needed to fight by his side if the situation demands.
We are all assuming she will die at the beginning of the next film, like Tracy. Maybe there's more interesting exciting things that could be done with her character?

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Swann and Camille would be very interesting in one film, with one (presumably, tragically) dying and the other one crossing paths with Bond once more.

As far as I'm concerned, it isn't a far-out scenario and one that I'd be interested in seeing.

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Barbel wrote:

Yes, let's get back to the topic.

Camille returning works for me.

No returning, no looking backwards for me. Camille was interesting but would not want to see her as a major component A cameo where Bond crosses her path might be  good. I just have a horror of a lazy back story piece...

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I agree. Camille might be mentioned or even be seen in a short scene, but I have no wish to see her in a major role in a Bond movie again. I've got nothing against her, but neither do I see her as more special than other Bond Girls.

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Ah, but she is unique among the Bond Girls.... (the main ones, anyway)- our James didn't consummate his relationship with her in the traditional manner!

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It could lead to a very interesting  scene,  with Bond
Infiltrating  an Enemy organisation.  Only to find Camille
Is being interrogate in front of him.
  Leading to many possibilities  ?

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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With Camille, I agree that if she returns, the amount of screen time should be limited. But I really like the idea of Bond connecting again with characters from past adventures, as long as it works in the context of the plot. I thought the amount of screen time given to Felix (and the role he played in the plot) in QoS was pretty much spot on. And I also really enjoyed having Mathis back in that film (I wish they hadn't killed that character).

On the other hand, M, Q and Moneypenny all had far too much screen time in Spectre, IMO. I understand Eon has some amazing talent playing those parts, but I feel like the script shoehorned in the whole 9 Eyes plot just to give them opportunities to "act".

So, ideally for me, M, Q and Moneypenny would be kept at the start and end of the mission. Felix and Camille return in 5 to 10 minute cameos to give Bond intel or assistance necessary for his mission. Something like Felix's role in TLD would work for me. And the new female lead, whatever her job, is as well written as Vesper. Then give her and Bond enough screen time together to create an interesting and dynamic relationship. #wishlist

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Good post, canoe2. I agree with you.

I keep going back and forth about whether I'd like to see Camille in B25. On one hand, Camille is a very underrated Bond girl and I thought her character was a real highlight of QoS. On the other, I fear that her reappearance would feel forced if not written in a very specific way. So I'm still on the fence.

Felix, however, is a must for me.

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[Edited by Barbel. Daniel Bond, you've been asked already to post on topic or not at all. Please do so.]

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Jarvio wrote:

Jinx too, albeit a very bad one

Edit: Oh I see you mentioned Jinx

Why does everyone hate Jinx so much?  I thought she was one of the better counterparts.

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Because she was objectively terrible.

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Well, it just might happen! Bond may very well have a female counterpart/colleague, but not in the way it's been in the past: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente … 60911.html

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
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Is there any 00 Agent a woman ?? ... Dunno ...

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There's a woman 00 shown briefly in THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH.

https://screenmusings.org/movie/blu-ray … h-0208.jpg

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We can also glimpse a female 00-agent in TB

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Miranda Frost's MI6 ID card says she is a 00.

Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.

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Good to know there are female 00 Agents ... thanks for the infos  ajb007/smile

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caractacus potts wrote:

we've had several female agents over the years, from Anya Amasova through Jinx and we've had a few amateur adventurers, usually on missions of revenge, like Melina Havelock or Camille

Camille was an agent for Bolivian intelligence. When Bond and Camille are taking off in the old plane Bond says, "My sources tell me your Bolivian secret service. Or used to be."

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Quentin Quigley wrote:

Miranda Frost's MI6 ID card says she is a 00.

Is this correct? Do we see her card in the Movie?

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I thought she was just very " nought -y "  ajb007/embarrassed

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Yes, I got the impression she was an "ordinary" MI6 agent.

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I don't think it's confirmed that she's an 00. Miranda even says ''He's a double O, and a wild one,'' like she isn't one herself. But her file seems to say something else https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtIEjcZXQAAOgQj.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtIEkYTX4AQWvVY.jpg

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Number24 wrote:
Quentin Quigley wrote:

Miranda Frost's MI6 ID card says she is a 00.

Is this correct? Do we see her card in the Movie?

It is correct, but the ID was seen in exhibits - not the film.

DutchJamesBondFan wrote:

I don't think it's confirmed that she's an 00. Miranda even says ''He's a double O, and a wild one,'' like she isn't one herself. But her file seems to say something else

True, it does seem like Frost is a regular agent. We know they originally planned to use Gala Brand, with the name change being a last minute decision. Brand's file has her as 0089, and from what I can tell, all details from her file (except for the name, obviously) are the same as on Frost's file. Therefore, it would be reasonable to assume Frost became 0089.

In conclusion, either Frost is indeed a 00 in the film; OR Frost is a regular agent - and the last minute name change saw all other details (Brand's '00' status) remain on the props, possibly due to time restraints.

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