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Matt S wrote:
HowardB wrote:
Someone wrote:

Trawling through Dan Romer's work, I am wondering if maybe the best soundtrack to indicate what we might get for Bond25 is actually for the video game, Far Cry 5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBcTm3xeomM&t=285s

I hope not.....

I'm with you. Of all of Romer's work, I think this is the only thing close to the genre of Bond. Scores (particularly action scores) today have become driven by percussion and ambient sounds. It's music composed by a computer rather than by the mind or the heart. Hans Zimmer and his people have given mindless action films mindless action music. And when there is melody and harmony it's often folk-music based. That kind of thing doesn't work for Bond. That said, there is some good stuff in here; it's not all mindless.

Matt, your assessment of today's film scores is dead on accurate, I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. Also agree that Zimmer is to blame.

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clublos wrote:
Matt S wrote:
HowardB wrote:

I hope not.....

I'm with you. Of all of Romer's work, I think this is the only thing close to the genre of Bond. Scores (particularly action scores) today have become driven by percussion and ambient sounds. It's music composed by a computer rather than by the mind or the heart. Hans Zimmer and his people have given mindless action films mindless action music. And when there is melody and harmony it's often folk-music based. That kind of thing doesn't work for Bond. That said, there is some good stuff in here; it's not all mindless.

Matt, your assessment of today's film scores is dead on accurate, I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels this way. Also agree that Zimmer is to blame.


Good news is that after Newman the bar is low...really low. Anything that does not actually stink up the place will be a welcome addition.

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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https://i.postimg.cc/sQn67zyG/909-DC4-F6-C77-F-40-E9-8975-582851-EEFAE5.jpg

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The teaser trailer for Bond25 may be just a month away or it may be four months away.

While we had the surprise 25 June BTS teaser, and then the 30 June picture of DC as Bond on location in London (BTS shot or is it in the film?), if they are following Skyfall and Spectre's first image release dates of 71 days after principle filming starts, then 7 July, starting from Bond 25's 25 April official filming start date (not including the earlier Norway filming), would have been 71 days. So, the Whitehall DC picture came a week early.

What may not be 'early' is the teaser. Mid-August would be the actual first teaser trailer release time if they are matching Spectre, but Skyfall's teaser took 200 days after filming started to be released. Spectre's teaser trailer came out 27 March 2015, 112 days after filming started, so for Bond25, we could be looking at around Thursday 15 August. Skyfall's teaser trailer came out on 21 May 2012, 200 days after its 3 November 2011 start, which would be 11 November. But, that seems very late even for a April 2020 release.

Then again, how long do they want to rethink the title? And will the need to publish an official poster force them to decide on a title sooner rather than later? Spectre's first poster was released 17 March, 104 days after filming started, so for Bond25, we could be looking at around Wednesday 7 August. If they match Spectre's teaser trailer release date timing, we might get the poster at the same time.

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Someone wrote:

Then again, how long do they want to rethink the title? And will the need to publish an official poster force them to decide on a title sooner rather than later? Spectre's first poster was released 17 March, 104 days after filming started, so for Bond25, we could be looking at around Wednesday 7 August. If they match Spectre's teaser trailer release date timing, we might get the poster at the same time.

Early august sounds about right.

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Shatterfang wrote:
Someone wrote:

Then again, how long do they want to rethink the title? And will the need to publish an official poster force them to decide on a title sooner rather than later? Spectre's first poster was released 17 March, 104 days after filming started, so for Bond25, we could be looking at around Wednesday 7 August. If they match Spectre's teaser trailer release date timing, we might get the poster at the same time.

Early august sounds about right.

The Skyfall teaser poster was released on 17 May 2012, just before teaser trailer and its 21 May 2012 release.
https://www.007.com/skyfall-poster-revealed/

I have a horrible feeling we'll be waiting longer than August.

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Someone wrote:
Shatterfang wrote:
Someone wrote:

Then again, how long do they want to rethink the title? And will the need to publish an official poster force them to decide on a title sooner rather than later? Spectre's first poster was released 17 March, 104 days after filming started, so for Bond25, we could be looking at around Wednesday 7 August. If they match Spectre's teaser trailer release date timing, we might get the poster at the same time.

Early august sounds about right.

The Skyfall teaser poster was released on 17 May 2012, just before teaser trailer and its 21 May 2012 release.
https://www.007.com/skyfall-poster-revealed/

I have a horrible feeling we'll be waiting longer than August.

Well if the last teaser was released 7 months before the film, then it will be around early september.
And if the full trailer was released 3 months before the film, then it will be around early January.

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James Suzuki wrote:

Daniel Kleinnman is back to do the title sequence.
https://i.postimg.cc/Hj7phmv0/66380499-2480181668885253-8043575191005036544-n.jpg

Meh. Casino Royale was stunningly good, while the rest were just generic.

About Romer -- he has the chops to do a fine Bond score.  As with the casting of Craig, going against type (though I never really believed it was beyond the blond hair) often forces the artist to work harder creatively, producing even better work.  Though I'm not opposed to Hans Zimmer's scores (and have it on good authority he doesn't write many of them or at least not the complete score anymore), there's no reason to believe that Romer's past work indicates he's not up to the job. Besides, if the franchise could survive Michael Kamen and Eric Serra, it will be able to handle any mediocrity this guy might create.

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I haven't been keeping up with a lot of news on the new Bond film, but I'm
really happy to see Daniel Kleinnman Back. Unlike some  ajb007/wink  I love his work
the titles to Skyfall are a masterpiece of visuals  ajb007/martini  I know nothing of
Dan Romer's work, but I'm glad to have a change from R Newman.  ajb007/biggrin

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Thunderpussy wrote:

I know nothing of
Dan Romer's work, but I'm glad to have a change from R Newman.  ajb007/biggrin

Randy did Toy Story; we got T Newman ajb007/wink

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ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

"Let his death be a particularly unpleasant and humiliating one."

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Apologies if this is already in the spoiler thread, which I'm not reading:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- … s-48989212

Bond 25 scenes to be shot in the Highlands

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Looking at Universal Pictures' films that are coming up, two stand out as possible movies which are appropriate to have the Bond25 teaser infront of them.

Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw, out 2 August in the USA.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6806448/?ref_=ttrel_rel_tt

And

The Hunt, a horror film that is out on 27 September.
https://www.universalpictures.com/movies/the-hunt

2 August seems a bit early for the Bond25 teaser, but maybe it would be a short, action packed, teaser as the Hobbs and Shaw film is bound to do well at the box office.

Hopefully Bond25 will have a teaser like Quantum's, my favourite of the DC films as it has so much action and has a faster pace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irmi2UR1hYo

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And the Quantum of Solace trailer was better than the movie itself in this Donkey's opinion!  ajb007/biggrin

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Revealing the title at Comic-Con San Diego could help give the film some extra promotion.

From wired.com

The annual San Diego confab is typically a bellwether of everything coming to screens big and small. There are usually sneak peeks of future blockbusters and surprise announcements about comic-book heroes getting their own movies. Often, big-name actors come out to surprise fans.

I don't think Bond films appear at Comic-Con but as the title is missing in action and Comic-Con starts tomorrow, Eon and MGM could have used the convention to market the film. Admittedly the lack of trailer footage would be a drawback.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, an autumn teaser trailer/reveal of title is more likely.

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bonded123 wrote:

Revealing the title at Comic-Con San Diego could help give the film some extra promotion. I don't think Bond films appear at Comic-Con but as the title is missing in action and Comic-Con starts tomorrow, Eon and MGM could have used the convention to market the film. Admittedly the lack of trailer footage would be a drawback.

Yeah, somehow it doesn't feel like a Bond sort of event. Although there certainly are such a thing as Bond fans, Eon doesn't really court them in the same way- I think it can make some of those things feel a bit insular and tribal; images of whooping Star Wars fans can turn some folk off and it's not really Bond's image to do that. Bond is sort of, for the want of a better word, classier than SDCC.
Bond is a bit more mass market than that (which I know is a weird thing to say when Marvel films are top of the box office!) but they aim to get their photos on the front page of the national newspaper rather than the front of a fan website.

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I edited my last post and added a quote to explain why Comic-Con is considered important. As you mention, Bond doesn't suit the comic book convention scene although Bond does have a history of comic book iterations.

Had Bond 25 started filming in January there could have been a lot of footage shot by July, most I guess. The teaser and title could have been a Comic-Con world exclusive. But Bond doesn't really fit in with the comic book superhero crowd.

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emtiem wrote:

Yeah, somehow it doesn't feel like a Bond sort of event. Although there certainly are such a thing as Bond fans, Eon doesn't really court them in the same way- I think it can make some of those things feel a bit insular and tribal; images of whooping Star Wars fans can turn some folk off and it's not really Bond's image to do that. Bond is sort of, for the want of a better word, classier than SDCC.
Bond is a bit more mass market than that (which I know is a weird thing to say when Marvel films are top of the box office!) but they aim to get their photos on the front page of the national newspaper rather than the front of a fan website.

Completely agree.