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BondJasonBond006 wrote:

Because Avengers takes in 1.5 billion and is worth again that number in merchandise/home video market?

EON with one flop will be finished. So far the risks paid off. But that is not a guarantee for the next film.

Haha - wishful thinking???

Bond 25 won't flop with DC in the role.

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It's both news and not news. I mean, it's a long long way off, so can't see them announcing the title or anything else this year, because why? Why make a decision until you have to? I doubt the script is even in its initial draft yet, and a lot could change politically in the next year. No title either, as you'll just get a lot of similar sounding movies popping up in the next year. It's good in that it stops speculation and the usual who will be the next Bond boring stuff, that's all.

Odd to read by Purvis and Wade that Spectre closed things off and the next film will be different (I would have thought that Blofeld would be back), and that Trump is a real Bond villain, it's a bit divisive!

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welshboy78 wrote:
BondJasonBond006 wrote:

Because Avengers takes in 1.5 billion and is worth again that number in merchandise/home video market?

EON with one flop will be finished. So far the risks paid off. But that is not a guarantee for the next film.

Haha - wishful thinking???

Bond 25 won't flop with DC in the role.

Has any Bond film actually flopped or lost money?  bond also enjoys a healthy hone video market.

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BondJasonBond006 wrote:
Number24 wrote:
BondJasonBond006 wrote:

If that happens it will make up HUGELY for all the mistakes EON made since 2008. But somehow I doubt it, because that would require BB to think ahead...

Like she did when she hired Daniel Craig. ajb007/shifty

That's my point. She didn't think as well back then...

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one  ajb007/lol

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Napoleon Plural wrote:

Odd to read by Purvis and Wade that Spectre closed things off and the next film will be different (I would have thought that Blofeld would be back), and that Trump is a real Bond villain, it's a bit divisive!

Maybe back then that was the view that DC had retired from the role??

I guess we will have a title released first day of shooting like Skyfall, SPECTRE

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I've been critical of Craig for the wrist slashing comment and other things leading up to and following Spectre. But I don't believe for a second that he only came back for the money.

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Whoo....lots of negativity here regarding the franchise and Craig's return. The longest running and most successful franchise in movie history has survived all manner of difficulties including protracted legal issues and court battles, beloved/iconic Bond actors leaving, changes in popular culture and film styles, etc, etc. The worst Bond film with Daniel Craig (pick whichever one or ones you don't like) are cinema classics compared to the stink bombs that are dropped into movie theaters these days. And please don't buy into the trolls that dominate the internet. They are in the business of profiting off of taking extreme negative and contrarian positions that are made up for those purposes. Honest criticism is rare on the 'net. Fortunately it still exists on the AJB with the exception of a few trolls here and there. With regards to Bond 25, I hold out hope that the shortcomings of SPECTRE are corrected in Bond 25. Despite being reviled by some (and deservedly so at times), the pattern is that EON typically rebounds very well after a disappointing effort, whether that be artistically or box office wise.

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HowardB wrote:

Whoo....lots of negativity here regarding the franchise and Craig's return. The longest running and most successful franchise in movie history has survived all manner of difficulties including protracted legal issues and court battles, beloved/iconic Bond actors leaving, changes in popular culture and film styles, etc, etc. The worst Bond film with Daniel Craig (pick whichever one or ones you don't like) are cinema classics compared to the stink bombs that are dropped into movie theaters these days. And please don't buy into the trolls that dominate the internet. They are in the business of profiting off of taking extreme negative and contrarian positions that are made up for those purposes. Honest criticism is rare on the 'net. Fortunately it still exists on the AJB with the exception of a few trolls here and there. With regards to Bond 25, I hold out hope that the shortcomings of SPECTRE are corrected in Bond 25. Despite being reviled by some (and deservedly so at times), the pattern is that EON typically rebounds very well after a disappointing effort, whether that be artistically or box office wise.

Good post Howard

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HowardB wrote:

Whoo....lots of negativity here regarding the franchise and Craig's return. The longest running and most successful franchise in movie history has survived all manner of difficulties including protracted legal issues and court battles, beloved/iconic Bond actors leaving, changes in popular culture and film styles, etc, etc. The worst Bond film with Daniel Craig (pick whichever one or ones you don't like) are cinema classics compared to the stink bombs that are dropped into movie theaters these days. And please don't buy into the trolls that dominate the internet. They are in the business of profiting off of taking extreme negative and contrarian positions that are made up for those purposes. Honest criticism is rare on the 'net. Fortunately it still exists on the AJB with the exception of a few trolls here and there. With regards to Bond 25, I hold out hope that the shortcomings of SPECTRE are corrected in Bond 25. Despite being reviled by some (and deservedly so at times), the pattern is that EON typically rebounds very well after a disappointing effort, whether that be artistically or box office wise.


Hear hear

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Like most people I'm elated that Craig's returning. That said I don't think I will really begin to get excited until once we know who the director is and what the story will be. I remember not being that thrilled about Spectre and Mendes being brought back in 2014. Since SPECTRE was already used so many times in the past and Mendes already gave us SF. Now they have a fresh palate to give us something totally new and original, not regurgitate an organization and director from the past. Hopefully they have a more original idea and villain in mind this time so us die hard's wont know what to expect I.E. Blofeld.

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Not much negativity on the whole, just repeat posting  ajb007/lol

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Chriscoop wrote:
welshboy78 wrote:
BondJasonBond006 wrote:

Because Avengers takes in 1.5 billion and is worth again that number in merchandise/home video market?

EON with one flop will be finished. So far the risks paid off. But that is not a guarantee for the next film.

Haha - wishful thinking???

Bond 25 won't flop with DC in the role.

Has any Bond film actually flopped or lost money?  bond also enjoys a healthy hone video market.


As I said not so far. But with the staggering costs of QOS, SF and especially SP it gets more and more difficult to break even.
If they really pay Craig 100 million, then Bond 25 may even exceed SP's budget.

I am amazed on how people turn a blind eye to that obvious big risk EON has taken again and again. I am just critical of things and do not celebrate the rose-coloured-party most seem to have  ajb007/bond

That being said, I want Bond 25 to hit the billion dollar mark even if it's a boring dreary affair like SF. I am so happy SF made so much money, because I WANT THIS FRANCHISE TO PROSPER and have films on a regular basis like up to 2008 (with gaps between actors being ok).

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Im sure EON know what they are doing, its a business after all.  Last two DC films have raked in nearly 2 billion dollars  ajb007/bond

Don't worry about the finance, enjoy the films

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Actually SP sold more tickets than SF in many countries. In Switzerland SPECTRE outsold Star Wars TFA by 300,000 tickets! SP sold over a million tickets.

Without the bad exchange currency situation and Star Wars killing off SP in some countries it would have made almost as much in BO as SF. If SP had been as successful in the US as SF, it would have even surpassed SF overall.

Hopefully in 2019 the Dollar/EURO situation will not be even worse.

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It's absolutely fine that you don't like SF, this place would be really boring if we all agree on everything. I was in a Norwegian James Bond fan forum for a short while before I joined AJB. The problem was that the Mod there felt that as a Bond fan you had to think everything and everyone involved with Bond is fantastic and beyond critizism, and any discussions and rating was disloyal. God, that was boring! But it might be wise not to refering to SF as if it was a disaster and we all know it, because it was hugely popular with the audience and critics.

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So just for the sake of variety, a new rumor for everyone to chomp on… From a relatively reliable source comes that Jeffrey Wright has been engaged for Bond 25. Of course we will have to see until the official announcement but to me this makes sense...


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Woohoo - hope your right Mantis.  This and David Arnold is on my wishlist.

Little touches like this will make a huge difference.  Leiter has been missing far too long for my liking!

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The Mantis wrote:

So just for the sake of variety, a new rumor for everyone to chomp on… From a relatively reliable source comes that Jeffrey Wright has been engaged for Bond 25. Of course we will have to see until the official announcement but to me this makes sense.

That would be good news.
Remaining on my list would be Arnold returning (Michael Giacchino would also be ok by me) and Monica Bellucci.

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Number24 wrote:

It's absolutely fine that you don't like SF, this place would be really boring if we all agree on everything. I was in a Norwegian James Bond fan forum for a short while before I joined AJB. The problem was that the Mod there felt that as a Bond fan you had to think everything and everyone involved with Bond is fantastic and beyond critizism, and any discussions and rating was disloyal. God, that was boring! But it might be wise not to refering to SF as if it was a disaster and we all know it, because it was hugely popular with the audience and critics.

SF is my favorite Bond film so I'm a bit bias towards it, but its interesting to see when others have a complete opposite reaction to it. That said, it is laughable to try to paint the film as some huge disaster. I think it will be a long time, if ever, until a Bond film reaches those heights again. Here's hoping Bond 25 will!

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The Mantis wrote:

So just for the sake of variety, a new rumor for everyone to chomp on… From a relatively reliable source comes that Jeffrey Wright has been engaged for Bond 25. Of course we will have to see until the official announcement but to me this makes sense...


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This just gets better,  Jeff Wright has been on my Bond wishlist since qos,  I was a bit disappointed he wasn't in sf or sp.

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welshboy78 wrote:

DC has created a goldmine for EON so I wouldn't expect him to be on peanuts.   He is box office gold and Bond 25 will make crazy money also like Skyfall and SPECTRE

Unfortunately, Craig is not box office gold in pretty much anything outside of Bond, with a long list of financial disappointments and/or failed attempts at franchises (COWBOYS & ALIENS, THE GOLDEN COMPASS, ADVENTURES OF TINTIN, the American GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO). He must know this, and it's probably a major reason why he's back for Bond 25.

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philpog wrote:
welshboy78 wrote:

DC has created a goldmine for EON so I wouldn't expect him to be on peanuts.   He is box office gold and Bond 25 will make crazy money also like Skyfall and SPECTRE

Unfortunately, Craig is not box office gold in pretty much anything outside of Bond, with a long list of financial disappointments and/or failed attempts at franchises (COWBOYS & ALIENS, THE GOLDEN COMPASS, ADVENTURES OF TINTIN, the American GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO). He must know this, and it's probably a major reason why he's back for Bond 25.

Yeah Craig isn't Tom Cruise in that regard, he's not a hugely successful leading man in non-Bond films. But then again Cruise hasn't been doing so well outside of M:I films lately either.

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Certainly not disputing that - was refering to him as Bond box office gold.

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Clearly, Eon feels he's worth whatever they're paying him, or they'd have moved on to #7  ajb007/bond

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philpog wrote:
welshboy78 wrote:

DC has created a goldmine for EON so I wouldn't expect him to be on peanuts.   He is box office gold and Bond 25 will make crazy money also like Skyfall and SPECTRE

Unfortunately, Craig is not box office gold in pretty much anything outside of Bond, with a long list of financial disappointments and/or failed attempts at franchises (COWBOYS & ALIENS, THE GOLDEN COMPASS, ADVENTURES OF TINTIN, the American GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO). He must know this, and it's probably a major reason why he's back for Bond 25.

Cowboys and aliens took over 225,000,000 and was made on a budget of 100,000,000.  And it had Harrison Ford!  tgwtdt was made on a budget of 90 million and took 280 million it also won an Oscar and numerous other awards.  ( figures include dvd sales etc) golden compass had that whole religious argument going on and wasn't really a Daniel  Craig film,  defiance was probably the worst with 68 million takings on a budget of just shy of 50 million which is a shame given the subject matter,  I don't think you can count TINTIN as a Craig film,  Really not bad profit margins. I struggle to think of any actor who carries a film just on his name alone these days?

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