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Whichever side you are on, it is the most disrespectful thing I have ever seen, clearly she has lost track of her own status and position and frankly I hope it comes back to bite her in the ****

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Funny that the outrage is about her being disrespectful.

If that‘s the most disrespectful thing that you‘ve seen in politics at all, you certainly have lived in a cave for the last 3 years  ajb007/biggrin

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But I can agree it's the most disrespectful thing I've seen Pelosi do. I comentator thought the tearing of papers looked pre-planned and theatrical in spite of the ignored handshake. He may be right.

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Speaking of disrespectful and disgusting attitude of politicians...this is what happened today here in Germany after the election of a bew chief minister.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VfYdO6L366U

The name is Walker by the way.

IG: @thebondarchives
Check it out, you won’t be disappointed ajb007/smile

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"bew chief minister." Is that a misspelling? I'm not 100% sure of the context, but:

Yes, that's disrespectful. To use a senator McCain quote out of context: "it's not about who they are - it's about who you are".

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I think he meant New. As the B and N are next to each other on the keyboard.
Yeah, that was pretty rude of her.

“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming

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I think Pelosi has just handed Trump a second term

“I remember the last thing my Nan said to me before she died.
‘What are you doing here with that hammer?’”..... Lee Mack.

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I think the failed impeacements helped Trump more. That's a good philosofical question: Should one let a president do anything if an impeacment will help him get re-elected?

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It definitely doesn't put the democrats in a good light

“The scent and smoke and sweat of a casino are nauseating at three in the morning. "
-Casino Royale, Ian Fleming

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And if Trump had done the same thing (he's the president so techically he couldn't do the same thing, but ...) no'oe would take much notice of it. He really lowered the bar for himself.

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AugustWalker wrote:

Speaking of disrespectful and disgusting attitude of politicians...this is what happened today here in Germany after the election of a bew chief minister.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VfYdO6L366U

Well, there is a story behind that „disgusting attitude“

The new (comparable to a US) Governor has been the first leader who has been elected with the votes of the rightwing populists from the AfD, which is known to be particularly very Nazi in Thueringen.

This man should have never accepted the vote and the reaction was a response to the historic questions internationally, what the germans have done to protest the uprise of the Nazis in the Weimar Republic.

So I personally applaud her for making a statement against Nazis and probably would have done the same!

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Higgins wrote:
AugustWalker wrote:

Speaking of disrespectful and disgusting attitude of politicians...this is what happened today here in Germany after the election of a bew chief minister.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VfYdO6L366U

Well, there is a story behind that „disgusting attitude“

The new (comparable to a US) Governor has been the first leader who has been elected with the votes of the rightwing populists from the AfD, which is known to be particularly very Nazi in Thueringen.

This man should have never accepted the vote and the reaction was a response to the historic questions internationally, what the germans have done to protest the uprise of the Nazis in the Weimar Republic.

So I personally applaud her for making a statement against Nazis and probably would have done the same!

This is the backstory. Still it’s a demeanor I don’t want to see of any politician. There are other ways „to show them“ than getting down to this childish low-level.

The name is Walker by the way.

IG: @thebondarchives
Check it out, you won’t be disappointed ajb007/smile

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I second that. The same goes for Nancy Pelosi. She could have made a well-worded statement to the press afterwards would have been more classy and even adult.

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Well, if she‘d have smiled and handed over the flowers with a handshake, she would have been the ‚sneaky, hiding fake‘ politician like they are often criticized on social media who think one thing and act directly contrary to their beliefs.

No matter what she‘d have done, people would have jumped on her.
In doubt, I‘d have chosen the straightforward path and obviously she did, too.

Additionally we are speaking about new Nazis here, not sure if a measured response ( like many politicians in the Weimar Republic chose) is a too weak statement.

If you are dealing with evil and mean people, sometimes one has to make a statement, otherwise they run you over. In the other hand, you are not winning against evil and mean people when you are meeting them on their playing field.

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Genuine question: Is she in some way obligated to pass on a bouquet of flowers?

The name is Walker by the way.

IG: @thebondarchives
Check it out, you won’t be disappointed ajb007/smile

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Genuine reply: I don't know.

But the point is, how do you deal with extreme right votes. Do you restrain yourself always and keep the stiff upper lip and only throw cottonballs, or is that not enough.

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Pelosi's act was sophomoric, but (a) it's a blip compared to the crap the Republicans pull every day, and (b) it will have zero effect on any election anywhere in the US.  People here care about decorum in politics only to the extent that it applies to the "other side", and it poses no obstacle to their voting preferences.  Especially the current American right.

Hilly...you old devil!

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From the Marriam-Webster Dictionary:

sophomoric (adjective)


soph·o·mor·ic | \ ˌsäf-ˈmȯr-ik

   
Definition of sophomoric
1: conceited and overconfident of knowledge but poorly informed and immature
a sophomoric argument

2: lacking in maturity, taste, or judgment
sophomoric humor


ajb007/biggrin

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Sir Hillary Bray wrote:

Pelosi's act was sophomoric, but (a) it's a blip compared to the crap the Republicans pull every day, and (b) it will have zero effect on any election anywhere in the US.  People here care about decorum in politics only to the extent that it applies to the "other side", and it poses no obstacle to their voting preferences.  Especially the current American right.

I agree.
I‘ve recently read about „outragement waves“ in social media, which are created and echoed by the worst offenders.
An example may be the reporting on Fox News about the Pelosi incident.

I observe them in particular when it goes against mainstream media like the public tv in Germany or against the BBC for example. The intention is clear and we should all be very worried about it.

And let me add that it was shocking what we‘ve heard at the traditional breakfast prayer.
That‘s what the outrage should be about by the evangelical right and not about a ripped script.

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A couple of years ago I discovered the man who started the Breakfast Prayers came from a small village not far from here. I actually went to school there for a year. And yes, it's funny how Fox News are outraged by this one act by Peolsi, but absolutely everything Trump does is great.  ajb007/lol

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Trump has tweeted his opinion on the on the length of Roger Stone's sentence. Isn't that kind of theing normal, you ask? Yes, in dictatorships leaders of states influence the courts' decisions all the time. In democracies it's unconstitutional, because independent courts is a cornerstone of a free democracy.

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Yes, the President has tweeted that the thinks the Executive branch has the right to intervene in court decisions by the Judicial branch. This is in direct contradiction of the constitution. This is a real test for all those people in the gun lobby who says the constitution is so important to them.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-15/ … s/11968634



Donald J. Trump

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Well, people from the far right will tell you that this is all part of ‚draining the swamp‘ and fighting against the corrupt elite.

Interesting how much Trump stands up for someone, who according to himself - he barely does know (Roger Stone).

Also interesting what happened to proud republicans who where outraged about the perceived lack of law, morale and conduct under democratic presidents and candidates.

Also interesting that „law abiding citizens“ ( we hear this often from NRA members when it helps them) are very silent in the last 3 years.

I‘ve read recently an article, if the outrage (on both sides) about the impeachment will be a deciding factor in the upcoming elections.

The author said no, because the outrage is only, when the other political camp does something to be outraged about. So, it‘s a reinforcing factor but does not let people move to the other camp.

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The Daily Mail cartoonist has a Bondian take on the Johnson reshuffle.

https://i.postimg.cc/YG9wXc3C/Kremlin-Spectre-Sunak-Reshuffle-Mail150220.jpg

Oddly, it's similar to a gag I made on my political Twitter feed - which comes with plenty of Bond images - @GraylingLegacy. Have a gander if you're in the mood.

"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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Horrible news with the shooting in Germany. These groups, both extreme muslims and anti-muslims, feed off each other and makes life unsafe for the non-violent majority.