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I think that China's foreign minister

Wang Yi

would make a great James Bond Villain!


https://media1.faz.net/ppmedia/aktuell/finanzen/792055984/1.5483477/format_top1_breit/chinas-aussenminister-wang-yi.jpg

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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I'm sure he has a white cat and a mono.-rail at home.

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Oh dear, a Tory minister has resigned over the Cummings debacle.

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Twitter have appended a "fact checker" icon * to one of President Trump's recent tweets, implying that he may not be telling the absolute truth.

In other developments, bears have been found to prefer wooded areas to perform toilet functions.






* please correct me if my terminology isn't accurate

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I was about to post the same thing! Why didn't Twitter do this years ago?

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Trump's reasction to Twitter's taging of his tweet is considering closing social media during the election. That man belives he can order the courts around, he calls any media critical of him "the enemy of the people" and now this. That man would clearly be happier leading a authoritarian regime.

His tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta … 1310739456

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On the Democrat side: I wonder is Kamela Harries is secretly happy for Biden's radio gaffe about black voters? Has her chances of becoming his running mate increased?

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Number24 wrote:

On the Democrat side: I wonder is Kamela Harries is secretly happy for Biden's radio gaffe about black voters? Has her chances of becoming his running mate increased?

Maybe, but her problem is she's not from a swing state and her actions as California Attorney General is problematic with some liberal voters. I've had issues with her since her days as San Francisco District Attorney where I found her not tough enough. If Biden were elected and Harris isn't the VP she'd probably be a lock for the Supreme Court.

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Westward_Drift wrote:
Number24 wrote:

On the Democrat side: I wonder is Kamela Harries is secretly happy for Biden's radio gaffe about black voters? Has her chances of becoming his running mate increased?

Maybe, but her problem is she's not from a swing state and her actions as California Attorney General is problematic with some liberal voters. I've had issues with her since her days as San Francisco District Attorney where I found her not tough enough. If Biden were elected and Harris isn't the VP she'd probably be a lock for the Supreme Court.

I can't see Harris being Joe's running mate, for many of the reasons laid out by W_D.  If naming a woman of color is paramount for him (as I suspect it is), Stacey Abrams seems more likely.

Hilly...you old devil!

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Today China adopted the new "Security Law" for Hong Kong. This law pretty much takes away the political independence and limited democracy HK was supposed to enjoy until 2047. This must be a desperate situation for young people in HK.

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Higgins wrote:

I think that China's foreign minister

Wang Yi

would make a great James Bond Villain!


https://media1.faz.net/ppmedia/aktuell/finanzen/792055984/1.5483477/format_top1_breit/chinas-aussenminister-wang-yi.jpg

Not while they're looking to corner China's movie market!

"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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The video of the killing of George Floyd in Minnesota has deeply touched me.

While I have some understanding ( I doubt that you fully understand what it‘s like living with a dark skincolor unless you are) for the anger of many, these violent actions across the country are not right.

And your enemies ( the white racists) will be using this against people of color and nothing improves in the end.

Atlanta‘s mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms showed impressively how real leadership Looks like and said the right words:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVs8JXqLPs8

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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I wonder if undertrained police officers is a contributing factor to this problem. I'm not saying the US doesn't have highly trained police officers: I'm sure there is a great number of them. But I know some states require a shockingly short training time for police, many under 1000 hours and some under 500 hours. On state (if memory serves) required only 250 hours. Barbers, cosmotologists and interior desigers must have at least 1000 hours to qualify. Lousiana requires 360 hours of training to serve as police, but a manicurist must train for 500. Did the officers involved in the deaths of those black men get instruction on how to hold a man down without strangling him, not to mention how to resolve conflicts without using violence?

Of course, looting and arson isn't acceptable regardless.

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Those officers have been partly in the job for 20 years.
I doubt that a lack of training is the reason.

Maybe some are totally losing any kind of empathy over the years.

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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What is extraordinary and dismaying is that they knew they were being filmed - but this didn't deter them in any way!

And another disturbing aspect is, well, at least it was filmed but in the days before smart phones, this stuff v simply would have been gotten away with - murder, basically. The cop narrative is, well, he threatened me so I took him out. A dead person's word against the State official.
The advent of camera phones has changed that - but only up to a point. Because they still get away with it! The cops' sacking was swift and gratifyingly so, but murder charges took days and often never at all.
So now you could argue you have the worst of both worlds. The world sees white racist cops murdering black men. The worlds sees them get away with it! The racist cops see and take notes.
It's comparable to the way the public can make Subject Access Requests to the local Council and other public bodies, where they disclose all the toxic guff they've written about you, but at the same time have rigged the Complaints process so you don't get anywhere with it.
Result? You see how you've been fitted up for once - but there's nothing you can do!

"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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Another thing is: smart phones counter the official narrative of the State and this gives the State the heebie jeebies, because its authority is everything. Once that's exposed as nonsense, it's the thin end of the wedge.
But of course, smart phones are trackable so that's the flip side. Especially with the lockdown, they can use it to track you and suggest you've been next to an infected person, and shut you down that way.
So it's swings and roundabouts - though I readily admit that all this is a world beyond most people. You have to uncover just how corrupt things are before the State turns its gaze on you.
Once you see all this, well, you feel a tad sorry when Bond goes after Goldfinger - you feel sorry for the villain, he doesn't stand a chance! Bond gets supplied with everything to take on his foe - a gadget laden Aston Martin, a tracker device, the FBI assistance too - all GF does is cheat at golf a bit and do some smuggling!  ajb007/biggrin
Ironically, Mr White's claim that 'we have people everywhere' really does apply to State officials, who use 'shills' - confidence tricksters - to infiltrate Opposition groups, the Media and campaign groups - see the Met SpyCops scandal, and the infiltration of the IRA Republican movement too.  ajb007/amazed
Re Adult Social Care - imo the so-called regulators, the CQC and NMC are staffed by 'shills' - not what they purport to be - though that's not quite the same as being State regulators they don't exactly need to 'infiltrate' the organisation.

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"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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I think it's worrying how journalists get arrested by the police or attacked by demonstrators during the riots/demonstrations in the US. It's not becoming of a democracy.

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Trump posing with a Bible while holding it upside down. Neither the Bible nor Trump spontanously combusted, so that's a good sign  ajb007/lol


https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/c4fbaac7b829a10dcb091c60ed1489353bd66f79/0_0_4806_2884/master/4806.jpg?width=445&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=94f99496263fed64b25e784ffc756db7

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I found this thoughtful and very interesting interview on police and their relation to the community, reactions to demonstrations and the militarization of the police. Even though the interview is a few years old it's sadly highly relevant today.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont … e=emb_logo

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Dominic Cummings has more troubles ahead- https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 … sonia-khan

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And more troubles for Cummings- https://inews.co.uk/news/dominic-cummin … on-2874005

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So after the horrible killing of George Floyd, protests are happening worldwide, including Buffalo City.

During those demonstrations, 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed by a policeofficer and fell.
The policeman tried to help, but was pulled back by another one and police moved on.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52952237

Firstly, the police tried to explain the incident with that Gugino tripped, the 2 policemen where suspended after the video came out.

Now we all can say - yes, there are some foul apples among the police sqad yadya yada.

Now have a look what happened after the 2 accused policemen left the court building:


https://www.towleroad.com/2020/06/buffalo-police/

Dozens, hundreds of policemen in civil applauded them to show their support.
And many policemen may call sick tomorrow as a form of protest (blue flu).


What honorable policeofficer would act that way I ask?

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------

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Higgins wrote:

So after the horrible killing of George Floyd, protests are happening worldwide, including Buffalo City.

During those demonstrations, 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed by a policeofficer and fell.
The policeman tried to help, but was pulled back by another one and police moved on.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52952237

Firstly, the police tried to explain the incident with that Gugino tripped, the 2 policemen where suspended after the video came out.

Now we all can say - yes, there are some foul apples among the police sqad yadya yada.

Now have a look what happened after the 2 accused policemen left the court building:


https://www.towleroad.com/2020/06/buffalo-police/

Dozens, hundreds of policemen in civil applauded them to show their support.
And many policemen may call sick tomorrow as a form of protest (blue flu).


What honorable policeofficer would act that way I ask?

“Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square,” said Buffalo Police Benevolent Association President John Evans

The Nuremberg defense from the president of the Police union.

In addition all 57 members of the Buffalo Emergency Response Team resigned their positions on the Task Force, while remaining on the job. Evan claims they are all acting in solidarity with the two officers who were arrested for assault. However 2 officers say they quit because the PBA would not pay their legal bills should anything happen.

Also on film was the Buffalo police tackling a black protester who was just standing there with his arms raised while talking to the press.

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This short video shows protesters doing just that, and not plundering, burning or throwing things. A man shouts to the police about overreacting and how they should protect the streets instead. The police react by  ….. overreacting. They charge ahead and grab the man and pepperspray the people standing next to him.
A non-violent protester is arrested for using his freedom of speach. Deeply disturbing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLTi0G7 … e=emb_logo

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Iran has issued an order to arrest Donald Trump because of the killing of general Qasem Soleimani. Oh no, Trump must be crushed now that he can't visit Iran anymore  ajb007/lol