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Miles Messervy wrote:
The Red Kind wrote:
emtiem wrote:

It's a Pelagos: I don't know much more than that I'm afraid! Yeah the markers are little blocks which sit in there: you can actually feel that some of them aren't flush to the bezel which I was surprised at- although I guess those ones had more glue because they stayed in! ajb007/smile

Here's a pic:
https://instagram.com/p/B1Go9WiAYxv/

Turns out the warranty has just run out, but Tudor are fixing it for free I think (I hope!).

Crikey! That's not good. I didn't think they were separate pieces and always thought they just were etched (as per Submariner(?) and Seamaster bezels. Perhaps an example of over-engineering on the part of Tudor on this particular model?

Glad Tudor are (hopefully!) sorting it FOC, anyway.

Very odd and unfortunate. These anomalies happen, though, including on higher end pieces. My friend bought a new Pepsi GMT (he buys a lot of watches, so the AD sold him one from his vault) and the thing had a defective crown lock. The crown literally fell out of the watch right into the AD’s gloved hand!

Yikes. It seems crazy sometimes that you can pay all of this money and actually get something that doesn't always work as well and keep as good time as a £7 Casio, plus it needs to be expensively serviced! ajb007/smile I guess it's a bit like an Aston Martin being slightly more unreliable and needing expensive servicing, but that at least is a better and faster car than a Ford Ka!  ajb007/smile You're getting more for your money than just style unlike these watches, there's quite a bit more functionality too.

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emtiem wrote:
Miles Messervy wrote:
The Red Kind wrote:

Crikey! That's not good. I didn't think they were separate pieces and always thought they just were etched (as per Submariner(?) and Seamaster bezels. Perhaps an example of over-engineering on the part of Tudor on this particular model?

Glad Tudor are (hopefully!) sorting it FOC, anyway.

Very odd and unfortunate. These anomalies happen, though, including on higher end pieces. My friend bought a new Pepsi GMT (he buys a lot of watches, so the AD sold him one from his vault) and the thing had a defective crown lock. The crown literally fell out of the watch right into the AD’s gloved hand!

Yikes. It seems crazy sometimes that you can pay all of this money and actually get something that doesn't always work as well and keep as good time as a £7 Casio, plus it needs to be expensively serviced! ajb007/smile I guess it's a bit like an Aston Martin being slightly more unreliable and needing expensive servicing, but that at least is a better and faster car than a Ford Ka!  ajb007/smile You're getting more for your money than just style unlike these watches, there's quite a bit more functionality too.

I agree that watch prices are truly silly, and there’s really no practical justification for buying one. That being said, a Rolex, Omega, or Tudor is capable of withstanding a lot more abuse and will work under much more extreme conditions than a $7 Casio. And in the case of Rolex, it’ll hold or increase its value.

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I just returned from a vacation in which I did a lot of hiking, swimming, skin diving, sea kayaking.

Did I wear one of my Seamasters? Only to dinner.

For the rough activities I wore my indestructible Casio G-shock. It cost more like $197 than $7, but that's still just a fraction of the others watches in my collection.

It's not that brands like Omega, Rolex, Tudor are no longer making tool watches; it's that there are better tools out there now (at least for most activities and occupations).

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Cheverian wrote:

I just returned from a vacation in which I did a lot of hiking, swimming, skin diving, sea kayaking.

Did I wear one of my Seamasters? Only to dinner.

For the rough activities I wore my indestructible Casio G-shock. It cost more like $197 than $7, but that's still just a fraction of the others watches in my collection.

It's not that brands like Omega, Rolex, Tudor are no longer making tool watches; it's that there are better tools out there now (at least for most activities and occupations).


Yeah, when we were all having a swim in the sea I was wearing my Casio which is so cheap I don't care about it, and it handled being the sea far better than the £3,000 diving watch did and consequently I was happier than my mate! ajb007/smile Did I look as cool? Obviously not, and there's limited pleasure to be had from wearing a bit of black plastic on your wrist, but sometimes that's all you need to do the job.
If I've got a dinner suit on? Then yeah, I'll wear my Omega every time: although never a diving watch. I don't really see why anyone would want a diving watch unless they're diving... ajb007/wink

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Cue the watch snobs and their insistence that you get what you pay for...  ajb007/rolleyes

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clublos wrote:

Cue the watch snobs and their insistence that you get what you pay for...  ajb007/rolleyes

Well that’s not trolling at all is it  ajb007/lol

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I wear my Garmin Fenix 3 for my outdoor activities. Mainly as it records and measures everything and I'm not worried if it gets bashed about a bit. Have never worn my Planet Ocean in the sea I'm ashamed and a bit embarrassed to say ajb007/embarrassed
I can definitely see a time a few years down the line when Bond wears a smart watch like Garmin or Suunto, but only if Omega ever make one (or whichever company has the Bond gig).

"Any of the opposition around..?"

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The Red Kind wrote:

I wear my Garmin Fenix 3 for my outdoor activities. Mainly as it records and measures everything and I'm not worried if it gets bashed about a bit. Have never worn my Planet Ocean in the sea I'm ashamed and a bit embarrassed to say ajb007/embarrassed
I can definitely see a time a few years down the line when Bond wears a smart watch like Garmin or Suunto, but only if Omega ever make one (or whichever company has the Bond gig).


Well he's worn many digital watches before so why not? ajb007/smile

Bear in mind I have nothing against Bond wearing diving watches as he does tend to do a bit of scuba occasionally! ajb007/smile

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I missed out on the Spectre watch before it became obscenely expensive to buy one so I had been holding on for Bond 25 but if its a wave dial i'll pass. I gotta wear the thing too and that the wave dial is just hideous.

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Certain photos from filming in Jamaica looked like it did not have one but then again it could....I am with you on the no wave dial though....they butchered the waves when they released the new diver 300!

HarveyMushman wrote:

I missed out on the Spectre watch before it became obscenely expensive to buy one so I had been holding on for Bond 25 but if its a wave dial i'll pass. I gotta wear the thing too and that the wave dial is just hideous.

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Miles Messervy wrote:

I agree that watch prices are truly silly, and there’s really no practical justification for buying one. That being said, a Rolex, Omega, or Tudor is capable of withstanding a lot more abuse and will work under much more extreme conditions than a $7 Casio. And in the case of Rolex, it’ll hold or increase its value.

Not really, back in the day when I attended an IED course: "How to Make and Effectively Use IEDs to Cause Numerically Superior Enemy the Maximum Amount of Casualties" or as it was colloquially known "Piss Bottle Bomb -course" (I will not dwell on that, so don't try), I forgot my watch hanging from a tree branch some 4-6 meters away from 2kgs of RDX.

That watch was Casio AMW320. When I finally found it in the target area, it had flown some 20 meters, lost its bezel ring, had dings and scratches and I had to bang it a couple of times against a tree trunk to make it tick again, but it survived for 15 more years. I don't think, and I am not willing to test, that any mechanical watch of sane proportions would survive in functional order going through the same.

EDIT: Oh I just realized that you said 7$ Casio, that AMW was atleast 3* that when I bought it.  ajb007/lol

Last edited by 0073 (4th Sep 2019 07:46)

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Well I guess it ain’t called the Seamaster for nothing  ajb007/lol

They actuallly did the SMP without waves for a while, I actually thought it looked rather flat and bland.

Each to his own

Cheers  ajb007/bond

My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!

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Miles Messervy wrote:
emtiem wrote:
Miles Messervy wrote:

Very odd and unfortunate. These anomalies happen, though, including on higher end pieces. My friend bought a new Pepsi GMT (he buys a lot of watches, so the AD sold him one from his vault) and the thing had a defective crown lock. The crown literally fell out of the watch right into the AD’s gloved hand!

Yikes. It seems crazy sometimes that you can pay all of this money and actually get something that doesn't always work as well and keep as good time as a £7 Casio, plus it needs to be expensively serviced! ajb007/smile I guess it's a bit like an Aston Martin being slightly more unreliable and needing expensive servicing, but that at least is a better and faster car than a Ford Ka!  ajb007/smile You're getting more for your money than just style unlike these watches, there's quite a bit more functionality too.

I agree that watch prices are truly silly, and there’s really no practical justification for buying one. That being said, a Rolex, Omega, or Tudor is capable of withstanding a lot more abuse and will work under much more extreme conditions than a $7 Casio. And in the case of Rolex, it’ll hold or increase its value.

But did you see the photo of my mate’s Tudor which fell apart on some gentle dips in the sea? That’s supposed to be 300m waterproof! ajb007/smile Add to that when he first got it the bezel didn’t sit straight and I’m a bit suspicious of Tudor’s build quality, beautiful watch though it is.

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I’ve known a GMT Master survive a house fire.  After cleaning the carbon off, apart from a popped crystal and the indices turning brown it was still working. After a service it looked like new.  Indices have since lightened too

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Asp9mm wrote:

I’ve known a GMT Master survive a house fire.  After cleaning the carbon off, apart from a popped crystal and the indices turning brown it was still working. After a service it looked like new.  Indices have since lightened too

Heh! That’s great ajb007/smile

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Asp9mm wrote:

I’ve known a GMT Master survive a house fire.  After cleaning the carbon off, apart from a popped crystal and the indices turning brown it was still working. After a service it looked like new.  Indices have since lightened too

Must have looked a bit like Jack the Bulldog - SP version ajb007/biggrin

"Any of the opposition around..?"

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My original 2500 planet ocean took a fall from iirc a fifth floor balcony and landed at the base of a palm tree, when I went down to retrieve what I thought would be the numerous bits of watch I found it in one piece, still ticking with only a few flattened knurls on the bezel. That watch was a daily beater and had been regularly up to 5 meters down while diving and continued in service until the spring went, that I havent repaired yet. I also dived with the sm300 coax limited edition a couple of times. I also bought an incredibly poor condition smp that cosmetically looked like it had been run through a gearbox! Still kept perfect time and a thorough clean and new crystal, bezel and indices had it looking fab.
Saying all that though I have had a PO 8500 fall off my wrist from maybe 4 feet and immediately heard one of the springs let go..

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Bond44 wrote:

They actuallly did the SMP without waves for a while, I actually thought it looked rather flat and bland.
Each to his own

I thought the same.

It's funny because in that case they removed an element that worked. In general, I believe that the designers at Omega could benefit by rediscovering restraint. With most of the new designs there is (at least) one element that strikes me as too much. It's a kind of "can't leave well enough alone" mentality.

Of course, some of the most brilliant watches in horological history have been outlandish to say the least.

But, sorry to break it to you, Swatch Group, the Seamaster Aqua Terra Ultra Light is not brilliant.

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Cheverian wrote:

But, sorry to break it to you, Swatch Group, the Seamaster Aqua Terra Ultra Light is not brilliant.


Is that this one? https://www.esquire.com/uk/style/a28890 … tra-light/

I guess the 80s are coming back, but I'm not sure they should...
I'd love to have one though. I could sell it and buy a lovely sportscar! ajb007/smile

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Chriscoop wrote:

My original 2500 planet ocean took a fall from iirc a fifth floor balcony and landed at the base of a palm tree, when I went down to retrieve what I thought would be the numerous bits of watch I found it in one piece, still ticking with only a few flattened knurls on the bezel. That watch was a daily beater and had been regularly up to 5 meters down while diving and continued in service until the spring went, that I havent repaired yet. I also dived with the sm300 coax limited edition a couple of times. I also bought an incredibly poor condition smp that cosmetically looked like it had been run through a gearbox! Still kept perfect time and a thorough clean and new crystal, bezel and indices had it looking fab.
Saying all that though I have had a PO 8500 fall off my wrist from maybe 4 feet and immediately heard one of the springs let go..

Funny Chris I feel the same took my PO on tour as my beater in a very hot sandy place and had no issues. Sent for a service and it was like new. Both my PO 8500’s have never been on tour or treated as harshly but both needed parts replaced due to internal failures while the old PO 2500’s still soldiers on regardless even though welll over due for a service.

Hence why the 2500 I feel is the better watch by far. A strange dynamic as the prices went up robustness went down.

Cheers  ajb007/bond

My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!

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emtiem wrote:
Cheverian wrote:

But, sorry to break it to you, Swatch Group, the Seamaster Aqua Terra Ultra Light is not brilliant.


Is that this one? https://www.esquire.com/uk/style/a28890 … tra-light/

I guess the 80s are coming back, but I'm not sure they should...
I'd love to have one though. I could sell it and buy a lovely sportscar! ajb007/smile

You just know those who buy it, will because they can, and those in the know, will know how much that overpaid for it. Still a talking point none the less and I am sure one will come up on eBay for half the RRP after all its only worth what someone else is willing to pay.

Pure status symbol if you ask me and not even on a proper strap or bracelet

Would rather put those funds to half a Aston Martin DBS  ajb007/biggrin

Cheers  ajb007/bond

P.S God help us all if Bond ends up wearing one we will have to start crowd funding so one of us could get one and pass it around each month!

My name is Bond, Basildon Bond - I have letters after my name!

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Bond44 wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:

My original 2500 planet ocean took a fall from iirc a fifth floor balcony and landed at the base of a palm tree, when I went down to retrieve what I thought would be the numerous bits of watch I found it in one piece, still ticking with only a few flattened knurls on the bezel. That watch was a daily beater and had been regularly up to 5 meters down while diving and continued in service until the spring went, that I havent repaired yet. I also dived with the sm300 coax limited edition a couple of times. I also bought an incredibly poor condition smp that cosmetically looked like it had been run through a gearbox! Still kept perfect time and a thorough clean and new crystal, bezel and indices had it looking fab.
Saying all that though I have had a PO 8500 fall off my wrist from maybe 4 feet and immediately heard one of the springs let go..

Funny Chris I feel the same took my PO on tour as my beater in a very hot sandy place and had no issues. Sent for a service and it was like new. Both my PO 8500’s have never been on tour or treated as harshly but both needed parts replaced due to internal failures while the old PO 2500’s still soldiers on regardless even though welll over due for a service.

Hence why the 2500 I feel is the better watch by far. A strange dynamic as the prices went up robustness went down.

Cheers  ajb007/bond

Let me guess did they replace the hairspring on the 8500? 2500 sits nicer on the wrist too, the 8500 as much as I love them just sit a bit too high sometimes and are easily caught on things. Talk about robustness we've both got vintage sm300 with the 552 calibre, beautiful brass movement, reliable and easy to get serviced.... Tough as too!  Omega 2500 and the 1120 (eta) it's based on is a great robust and reliable movement, if you did find you needed a handwind watch for golf or something more interesting I'd leave the £50k omega at at the AD and get something with the excellent eta unitas 6497 again its solid, reliable and looks pretty too.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Craig wearing (I think) a Speedmaster on a Connery NATO/RAF/nylon strap at the KNIVES OUT premiere tonight. Not the NTTD watch, obviously, but fun to see.



https://i.postimg.cc/5XV9X7h4/knives-out-LH2-9353-rgb.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/SJ8NNFt1/knives-out-LH2-9353-rgb-1.jpg

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HalfMonk HalfHitman wrote:

Craig wearing (I think) a Speedmaster on a Connery NATO/RAF/nylon strap at the KNIVES OUT premiere tonight. Not the NTTD watch, obviously, but fun to see.



https://i.postimg.cc/5XV9X7h4/knives-out-LH2-9353-rgb.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/SJ8NNFt1/knives-out-LH2-9353-rgb-1.jpg

Love the combo for the watch.   His standing pic however makes him look like a model for H&M.   Not a fan of the suit and sneakers trend.

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I hate the suit and sneakers look, too, especially on Craig. He has a habit of dressing in his personal life in a way that makes him look shorter than he is.