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Topic: The unseen missions - ever wonder?

First of all I searched if this topic already existed; found nothing.

Does anyone ever wonder about Bond's missions we haven't seen?

For example, he was certainly off on other assignments between the GE PTS, and the actual start of the film 9 years later.

After a mission, Bond would either rest for a couple of days, or get back to work the next day. He wouldn't want to idly stay at home, and neither would M.

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Re: The unseen missions - ever wonder?

Bond fan from Oz wrote:

First of all I searched if this topic already existed; found nothing.

Does anyone ever wonder about Bond's missions we haven't seen?

For example, he was certainly off on other assignments between the GE PTS, and the actual start of the film 9 years later.

After a mission, Bond would either rest for a couple of days, or get back to work the next day. He wouldn't want to idly stay at home, and neither would M.

Fleming tells us that in between missions Bond is bored and restless. Filling his day and with reading and commenting on mundane intelligence reports. He 'sharpens the saw' by being "thrown around by that damned Commando chap" and the firing range. It's then that he tends to drink too much and sink into maudlin depression. I love the idea of missions we don't see and treasure the occasional references to them and would love 25 to give us a snippet in the PTS.

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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BOND 25:

(Studio intros play)
Cut to: Bond gun barrel sequence. 

The circle expands, showing a dryer on spin cycle.  We pull back to reveal:

INTERIOR - LAUNDROMAT - LATE EVENING

JAMES BOND is in sweatpants and a sweatshirt, sitting in a laundromat, reading a Reader's Digest magazine.  He checks his Omega Seamaster watch with a bored expression on his face and glances over at the dryer that we were focused on before.  With a small sigh, he goes back to reading his magazine.

Cut to THE DOOR OF THE LAUNDROMAT

Which is flung open by a YOUNGER MAN carrying a laundry basket.  He enters the laundromat with a disgusted look on his face and glances around.  He sees Bond and nods at him.  Bond nods back.

BOND'S POINT OF VIEW

As we watch the Younger Man go over to a machine and load his laundry into it.  As he bends over, a shoulder holster carrying a gun is revealed.

The Younger Man puts money into the washing machine and walks over to Bond.

                                                                    YOUNGER MAN
                                                'You too, eh?'

                                                                         BOND
                                                'Me too.  It has to get done, doesn't it?'

                                                                     YOUNGER MAN
                                                 'Indeed.  Where's Madeline?'

The Younger Man sits down next to Bond, setting his laundry basket at his feet.

                                                                         BOND
                                                                   (Disgustedly)
                                                  'She's taking a nap.  She takes a lot of those lately,
                                                   unfortunately.  She keeps getting sugar crashes.  At
                                                   least, that's what SHE calls them...'

                                                                    YOUNGER MAN
                                                                     (Confused)
                                                   'Sugar crashes?  What...?'

                                                                         BOND
                                                    'Bon bons.  Nothing but Bon bons.  All
                                                     afternoon, bon bons.  She pounds the
                                                     things like you wouldn't believe.'

Bond turns and directly faces the younger man.

                                                                          BOND (cont.)
                                                                       (Intensely)
                                                     'I'm dead serious when I say this, 004:
                                                      Don't EVER get married.  EVER.'

A loud noise starts to build outside on the street.  Bond, 004, and the other patrons start to look outside the window. 

ON BOND AND 004

As they both stand up to look outside.

BOND'S POV

As he sees a luxury sports car pull up and park in the parking lot.  The door opens to the car but cuts away before the driver is revealed.

ON BOND

As he shows a sign of recognition and sits down, a surprised and disgusted look on his face. 

004 sees this expression and sits down next to Bond.

                                                                        004
                                                    'What is it?'

                                                                       BOND
                                                     'Just...get your gun ready, ok?'

ON THE DOOR TO THE LAUNDROMAT

The door opens, revealing a huge, muscular man carrying a laundry basket.  This is HINX.


The music swells, roll CREDIT SEQUENCE.



                                                                  Daniel Craig is 007 in
                                                                    LICENSE RENEWED

Last edited by Gymkata (8th Mar 2018 15:23)

Current rankings:
OHMSS>FRWL>CR>TSWLM>YOLT>MR>TLD>SF>GE>OP>DN>FYEO>
TWINE>TND>QOS>TB>TMWTGG>GF>LALD>SP>DAF>LTK>AVTAK>DAD
Bond rankings: Lazenby>Moore>Connery>Craig>Dalton>Brosnan

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Re: The unseen missions - ever wonder?

^ that's just like the first episode of Seinfeld! except Bond already knows what is the purpose of the top button of a shirt, because Vesper taught him how to dress.


Bond's missions between missions might make for a good 6 episode miniseries.
Smaller scale stuff, more dialog, less running around.
Sorta like the 1954 Casino Royale, or the proposed tv series that got turned into FYEO.

It would only work if Craig did it. The tone would be so different, audiences would not connect the two versions if it were anybody else. Just tell him, CraigDude, if you want to take four years off between movies, then you will have to do a six-episode miniseries halfway in between.


I bet you MooreBond did spend all that time between missions doing his reading, like a good boy. How else does he fill braincells with trivia about rare plants on the Tiperare? If he was in my class at high school everybody would have hated him. CraigBond on the other hand does not read. We saw how he productively uses his leisure time at the beginning of Skyfall.

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I have often wondered about the inbetween missions,  like the one handed to Bond at the end of Skyfall or the mission he was on when he was "killed" in yolt.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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If that were true back in the 60s Bond could've gone to Tokyo on '62-'63 and expanded on his interesting experience with M.

"...I have the oddest feeling we will be meeting again sometime..."
-Roger Moore's James Bond. RIP.
I have a YouTube channel on all things Bond (amongst other things, coming soon™).
The name's Bond and Beyond. It's currently on hold, though.

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Roll gunbarrel sequence.

The circle opens up to:

Bond is in the Central Perk Cafe in New York. He's ordered a coffee, which Gunther serves him. Also present are Sandy Frinck, Tyler Endicott, Tommy and Sharon Rowland, and Jackie Childs.

Seated nearby at a table, having lunch, are an attractive young couple, whose names are Jack Dawson and Rose Dewitt Bukater. They are talking about this upcoming cruise they are about to take soon, on a luxury liner headed for Southampton.

Seated at another table are another couple named Pumpkin and Honey Bunny. They are talking about starting a family, since they went straight.

Gunther has made some new Friends.

Suddenly, in burst C.W. Moss' grandson, Thomas Gabriel's illegitimate daughter, Poppy Adams' twin sister, Penny, and Debbie Ocean. They all pull out guns and are determined to rob the place. Debbie yells at the top of her voice,
"DON'T ANYBODY MOVE, IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIVES!!!"

HOWEVER

In burst Frank Regan, Luke Hobbs, J.T. Lancer, Marge Gunderson, Judy Hicks and Jack Travern. It turns out they had them under surveillance for some time, and were waiting for them to make their move. Bond JUST HAPPENS TO BE their inside contact.

The authorities enter and arrest the would-be perpetrators. Bond walks up to his fellow law enforcers. Frank says, "Good work, James."

They are about to be led away, when Debbie says, without skipping a beat,

"What if we could give you Cipher??"

The law enforcement officials are VERY INTERESTED indeed.

ROLL OPENING CREDITS

Last edited by Bond fan from Oz (9th Mar 2018 05:21)

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Confused would be an understatement  ajb007/insane

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If you're confused, you have the Internet. Use it.

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now, now, Oz, I did Google all the names in your first line, and all I came up with was Cosmo Kramer's lawyer.

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Pumpkin and Honey Bunny = PULP FICTION
Tyler Endicott = POINT BREAK
Jack Dawson and Rose = TITANIC
Marge Gunderson = FARGO
Luke Hobbs = FAST 5 - FATE OF THE FURIOUS
Jack Travern = SPEED
Cipher = THE MATRIX

Those are the only ones that I recognize.  Surprised Johnny Utah, Bodhi, and Frank Drebin aren't in there.

Current rankings:
OHMSS>FRWL>CR>TSWLM>YOLT>MR>TLD>SF>GE>OP>DN>FYEO>
TWINE>TND>QOS>TB>TMWTGG>GF>LALD>SP>DAF>LTK>AVTAK>DAD
Bond rankings: Lazenby>Moore>Connery>Craig>Dalton>Brosnan

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ah, now I get it. very clever.
You know it would be cool if Pumpkin and HoneyBunny were in the background of more diner sequences in more films.

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Gymkata wrote:

Pumpkin and Honey Bunny = PULP FICTION
Tyler Endicott = POINT BREAK
Jack Dawson and Rose = TITANIC
Marge Gunderson = FARGO
Luke Hobbs = FAST 5 - FATE OF THE FURIOUS
Jack Travern = SPEED
Cipher = THE MATRIX

Those are the only ones that I recognize.  Surprised Johnny Utah, Bodhi, and Frank Drebin aren't in there.

Recognised the same list right off the bat.
Caractacus, I know you know movies but do you know moviesajb007/biggrin

"...I have the oddest feeling we will be meeting again sometime..."
-Roger Moore's James Bond. RIP.
I have a YouTube channel on all things Bond (amongst other things, coming soon™).
The name's Bond and Beyond. It's currently on hold, though.

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well I should have got Fargo, especially since Frances McDormand just gave that Oscar speech, I've seen her photo a lot these last couple of days.
Titanic I do know, but against my will, same with The Matrix actually. Did not retain their characters' names over the long run.
I'm quite sure I have no idea what The Fate of the Furious is

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caractacus potts wrote:

I'm quite sure I have no idea what The Fate of the Furious is

Trust me, you don't want to.
Everything after Tokyo Drift sucks.

"...I have the oddest feeling we will be meeting again sometime..."
-Roger Moore's James Bond. RIP.
I have a YouTube channel on all things Bond (amongst other things, coming soon™).
The name's Bond and Beyond. It's currently on hold, though.

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I love the F&F movies. Sheer over the top escapism
filled with fun and laughs.  ajb007/martini  they don't  make a lot
Of sense, but they are crazy  ajb007/biggrin

“I didn’t lose a friend, I just realised I never had one.”

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FAST FIVE is a particularly strong entry in that franchise in terms of story, characterization, and action.  It gets that balance exactly right.  They gradually turn into cartoons after that one.

The best driving, however, is in the third one (TOKYO DRIFT).

Current rankings:
OHMSS>FRWL>CR>TSWLM>YOLT>MR>TLD>SF>GE>OP>DN>FYEO>
TWINE>TND>QOS>TB>TMWTGG>GF>LALD>SP>DAF>LTK>AVTAK>DAD
Bond rankings: Lazenby>Moore>Connery>Craig>Dalton>Brosnan

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Re: The unseen missions - ever wonder?

Getting back on topic I do think the unseen missions offer a lot for the imagination to ponder. Particularly in the years between Quantum and Skyfall where Bond went from the new naïve 00 agent to the grizzled "old dog" between films. I like to think that's where all of Craig Bond's standalone missions happened since in Spectre nothing is brought up of his life or missions between Quantum and Skyfall. So to me those are where all of his Spectre free missions took place.

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My biggest disappointment is the Craig era.  The films were so sporadically released, they squandered the first truly magnetic actor to take the role since the 1960s and ended up with what is essentially one story stretched over four movies.

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Gassy Man wrote:

ended up with what is essentially one story stretched over four movies.

Yeah, but except it isn't even. A well planned-out epic story of how Bond tracks down and defeats Quantum (or if they want, call it Spectre) over several movies, and develops his character, gets over Vesper, etc etc., COULD have been great. But instead we got something completely different (Skyfall) forced within what turned out to be a retroactive trilogy, and the Austin Powers half-brother bullshit in Spectre, which retroactively takes away the whole "more serious" approach set up before it.

Edit: And yet I still love the Craig era. But in my view they threw away so much potential...

"I'm afraid I'm a complicated woman. "
"- That is something to be afraid of."

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Gassy Man wrote:

they squandered the first truly magnetic actor to take the role since the 1960s and ended up with what is essentially one story stretched over four movies

Ornithologist wrote:

  they threw away so much potential...

I'm afraid they're some complicated producers.

"...I have the oddest feeling we will be meeting again sometime..."
-Roger Moore's James Bond. RIP.
I have a YouTube channel on all things Bond (amongst other things, coming soon™).
The name's Bond and Beyond. It's currently on hold, though.

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I feel tempted to quote my own signature  ajb007/lol

"I'm afraid I'm a complicated woman. "
"- That is something to be afraid of."

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Ornithologist wrote:
Gassy Man wrote:

ended up with what is essentially one story stretched over four movies.

Yeah, but except it isn't even. A well planned-out epic story of how Bond tracks down and defeats Quantum (or if they want, call it Spectre) over several movies, and develops his character, gets over Vesper, etc etc., COULD have been great. But instead we got something completely different (Skyfall) forced within what turned out to be a retroactive trilogy, and the Austin Powers half-brother bullshit in Spectre, which retroactively takes away the whole "more serious" approach set up before it.

Edit: And yet I still love the Craig era. But in my view they threw away so much potential...

I think you are right in as much as It would/could have been good instead of a clumsy half arsed Retcon. I choose to ignore it and not let it tarnish the preceeding 3.

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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As per the books it seems Bond spends most of his time in boring office routine. Comes to the office after 9:00 and then reviews documents for professional knowledge. Signs off and into the outbox. Eats lunch in the canteen or goes out with Tanner. He also has scheduled activities like medical checkups, marksmanship, perhaps some sort of martial arts. He may also test some new equipment or prepare equipment for his mission like zeroing a rifle and getting familiar with it. He has also spent time developing a fieldcraft manual for the 00 section. Maybe a meeting with M. Then end of day, off to change for the evening in preparation for a night of dinner and gambling. Two or three times a year he is sent on a mission...and wonders how many of these he will complete before he is killed. Will he make it to retirement age of 45 for field agents?

Bond: "But who would want to kill me, sir?"
M: "Jealous husbands, outraged chefs, humiliated tailors . . . the list is endless."

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We have had mention of various unseen missions:

DN - Bond's Baretta jammed during his last mission so the change to the Walther.  In the novels the Baretta jams in FRWL and Bond gets the Walther PPK at the start of DN but as the books are filmed out of sequence we can only guess at the previous mission.

LALD - the Rome assignment where he acquired Miss Caruso

TSWLM - what was he doing in Berngarten

MR - returning from Lagos were presumably he was on a mission

GE - as already pointed out must have had a few missions in the 9 years before encountering 006 again

TND - his time in Zurich when he met Paris

CR/QOS to SF - when he went from rookie 00 to hard bitten almost burned out veteran