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Le Chiffre's real name - Jean Duran?

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is your real name Denis?  ajb007/lol

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Re: Le Chiffre's real name - Jean Duran?

An Albanian with a name more suited for a Frenchman?

What's next, Blofeld is Bond's brother?

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Sorry, what? Who's Denis? 

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is your real name Denis?  ajb007/lol

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Re: Le Chiffre's real name - Jean Duran?

Wikipedia: "Le Chiffre is the main villain of the official 2006 James Bond film, Casino Royale, portrayed by Danish actor Mads Mikkelsen. Believed by MI6 to be Albanian and officially stateless, Le Chiffre is a financier of international terrorism. M implies that Le Chiffre conspired with al-Qaeda in orchestrating 9/11, or at least deliberately profiteering from the attacks by short selling large quantities of airline stocks beforehand. In the video game version of Quantum of Solace, it is said that his birth name is "Jean Duran", in the MI6 mission briefings."

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An Albanian with a name more suited for a Frenchman?

What's next, Blofeld is Bond's brother?

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I heard his real name was Duran Duran but he later changed it by deed poll to Le Chiffre, for obvious enough reasons.  ajb007/biggrin

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JB007fan wrote:

Sorry, what? Who's Denis? 

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is your real name Denis?  ajb007/lol

He was Margaret Thatcher's husband. You may have seen him briefly at the end of FYEO (1981).

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richmenstoys wrote:

is your real name Denis?  ajb007/lol

I thought the same thing ajb007/lol

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Re: Le Chiffre's real name - Jean Duran?

ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/martini

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richmenstoys wrote:

is your real name Denis?  ajb007/lol

I thought the same thing ajb007/lol

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Re: Le Chiffre's real name - Jean Duran?

Some here do accept the video games as canonical.
I just go by the books, and in the beginning M reads a dossier which states

...Monsieur Le Chiffre (alias 'The Number', 'Herr Nummer', 'Herr Ziffer', etc.)...

Maybe Le is short for something, like Leonard or Lester. or Lesley. He probably got teased for having a girl's name, so he shortened it to Le as an affectation, to make it sound more hip-hop, like "whussup Le Chiffre bro, where's them brothel moneys youse owes us?"

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Re: Le Chiffre's real name - Jean Duran?

ajb007/insane  ajb007/confused  ajb007/crap 

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ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/martini

walther p99 wrote:
richmenstoys wrote:

is your real name Denis?  ajb007/lol

I thought the same thing ajb007/lol

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caractacus potts wrote:

Maybe Le is short for something, like Leonard or Lester. or Lesley. He probably got teased for having a girl's name, so he shortened it to Le as an affectation, to make it sound more hip-hop, like "whussup Le Chiffre bro, where's them brothel moneys youse owes us?"

My french is rusty, but "Le" means "The" and "Chiffre" means "Number" in french, so I doubt that the "Le" in the name is an abbrevation like you guess  ajb007/wink

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Higgins wrote:
caractacus potts wrote:

Maybe Le is short for something, like Leonard or Lester. or Lesley. He probably got teased for having a girl's name, so he shortened it to Le as an affectation, to make it sound more hip-hop, like "whussup Le Chiffre bro, where's them brothel moneys youse owes us?"

My french is rusty, but "Le" means "The" and "Chiffre" means "Number" in french, so I doubt that the "Le" in the name is an abbrevation like you guess  ajb007/wink

Exactly, Higgins, and your French is fine my friend. If the OP really wants to know the origins of Le Chiffre as a name might I politely suggest that he look to the 1953 source novel, upon which the 2006 film version was based, which contains a Dossier for the destruction of M. Le Chiffre.

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Re: Le Chiffre's real name - Jean Duran?

Silhouette Man wrote:
Higgins wrote:
caractacus potts wrote:

Maybe Le is short for something, like Leonard or Lester. or Lesley. He probably got teased for having a girl's name, so he shortened it to Le as an affectation, to make it sound more hip-hop, like "whussup Le Chiffre bro, where's them brothel moneys youse owes us?"

My french is rusty, but "Le" means "The" and "Chiffre" means "Number" in french, so I doubt that the "Le" in the name is an abbrevation like you guess  ajb007/wink

Exactly, Higgins, and your French is fine my friend. If the OP really wants to know the origins of Le Chiffre as a name might I politely suggest that he look to the 1953 source novel, upon which the 2006 film version was based, which contains a Dossier for the destruction of M. Le Chiffre.

And... in brief (if I remember correctly), he's just a cypher, a number on a passport.
Name never revealed.

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Dirty Punker wrote:
Silhouette Man wrote:
Higgins wrote:

My french is rusty, but "Le" means "The" and "Chiffre" means "Number" in french, so I doubt that the "Le" in the name is an abbrevation like you guess  ajb007/wink

Exactly, Higgins, and your French is fine my friend. If the OP really wants to know the origins of Le Chiffre as a name might I politely suggest that he look to the 1953 source novel, upon which the 2006 film version was based, which contains a Dossier for the destruction of M. Le Chiffre.

And... in brief (if I remember correctly), he's just a cypher, a number on a passport.
Name never revealed.

Correct, he was a displaced person after WWII and claiming that he had amnesia, couldn't remember his name but took on the name Le Chiffre as he was only a number on a passport.

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