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Topic: Do you believe that the Illuminati still exists?

We know that the Illuminati was a real organisation or series of organisations in the past, but do you believe that it still exists today and still exerts influence? Or is that just what Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code (2003) and other novels would have us think? Is it all just fanciful fiction or a hidden grimmer reality?

Is the Illuminati really pulling the strings with world leaders and whole populations as puppets in their nefarious schemes for world subjugation and world domination?

Or is this all one big conspiracy theory that authors of fiction and later people who sit in their dank and dark bedrooms typing away at their PCs have thought up on a misinterpretation of the available evidence?

This is the thread in which to discuss all aspects of the Illuminati and the various theories surrounding it, as my popular 'Do you believe...' series continues.  ajb007/martini

Hopefully this will be an interesting (and most importantly respectful) debate.  ajb007/smile

Last edited by Silhouette Man (27th Mar 2018 18:19)

"The tough man of the world. The secret agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).

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Fnord.

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Last year 80% of the world's wealth went to
1% of the world's population  ..... so there is
Definitely  an elite  for sure  ajb007/wink

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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Thunderpussy wrote:

Last year 80% of the world's wealth went to
1% of the world's population  ..... so there is
Definitely  an elite  for sure  ajb007/wink

Yes, true, and the poor will always be with us.  ajb007/crap

"The tough man of the world. The secret agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).

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What exactly is the bilderberg meeting all about?

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Opening a can of worms, SM.

There is plenty of stuff about this on the Internet, but it is not v edifying.

My own take? Well, having had my tussle with adult social care and mother in a nursing home where it appears the Liverpool Pathway is alive and well - murder via a covert policy of dehydration, carried out by the care home, instigated by the primary care trust or local NHS CCG and enforced by the local Council, which has powers to bar from the care home any families who have rumbled what is going on... And then when you make a Complaint, taking it all the way to the Ombudsman, nobody is held responsible whatsoever, well, all these organisations are very good at covering for each other. Frankly, you don't need to be, say, a freemason when you work for the Council, because you have a complete lack of accountability, job for life and you can harass the public with impunity... I fail to see what being a freemason would add to that save some aprons and funny handshakes.

Watch the Stephen Lawrence docs this week and see how the police harassed the innocent Lawrence family by spying on them, I mean I doubt the police are part of the farty arty I mean illuminati but there are some nasty victim-blaming trends going on, for sure.

I doubt however that those of us messing about on a James Bond website will have any credible knowledge about whether anything more sinister is going on...   ajb007/biggrin

"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

Roger Moore 1927-2017

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I find it difficult to believe that there is an organization of powerful individuals like the Illuminati who actually sit down in the shadows and plot world domination. However, there is indeed a group of powerful individuals, who, whether they ever actually meet or even communicate with each other, certainly plot world domination and to a large extent succeed. While that group may have all been older men in suits, today a lot of them are considerably younger people who control much of the world's habits and influence thoughts through certain social media and other online tools. Different people, different media, same idea.

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Here's an old Instagram message I only found recently after not having signed into my blog account there for ages. It's from a certain user called 'johnilluminati1' (account now seemingly defunct). I wonder why...?:

February 5, 2019 3:45 am

Welcome to The illuminati New World Order.

Bringing the poor, the needy and the talented to limelight of fame and
riches. Get money, fame, powers, security, get recognised in your business,
political race, rise to the top in whatever you do, be protected spiritually and physically!

Once you are initiated to the ILLUMINATI BROTHERHOOD, you will have numerous benefits.

To apply for membership message me now to Join Our Global Unity +1 (513) 480-3507(text allowed)

"The tough man of the world. The secret agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).

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I'm going to guess its a scam or a joke.

Whatever it is, the real Illuminati would not message you on instagram, and you certainly don't apply for membership like a club.

My Movie IQ Tests ajb007/wink
James Bond  |  Jason Bourne

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While I don't know if they are called "the Illuminati", there are for sure powerful organizations that can affect politics on a global scale.

Just from a purely business angle, the top few US tech companies combined are worth TRILLIONS, that's more than the net wealth of many countries, and also with profits larger than the GDP of some smaller countries. They've got to be making plays that affect any policy - domestic or foreign.

If you'd like, I think there are many various "Illuminatis". BTW, I have not seen the Da Vinci Code, so I might be misunderstanding.

My Movie IQ Tests ajb007/wink
James Bond  |  Jason Bourne

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Kovert Potato wrote:

I'm going to guess its a scam or a joke.

Whatever it is, the real Illuminati would not message you on instagram, and you certainly don't apply for membership like a club.

Of course it is. Most likely a scam, knowing the dodgy and unsolicited messages one sometimes receives on Instagram. Thankfully I don't use it much anyway. It's maybe just as well.

Plus, the Illuminati doesn't exist though powerful elites of course do of course exist in our world.

"The tough man of the world. The secret agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).

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No, I don't belive the Illuminati exists.

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I've been  told by the Illuminati
To say they don't  exist  ajb007/wink

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"

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Someone arrest that man!  ajb007/amazed

Oh btw, I don't know if Illuminati is the same as this, but a lot of the mind control stuff you see in movies is apparently real (or at least they tried to).

And I'm saying real because if its on Wikipedia, it means its real  ajb007/lol but the references does seem to include many official government sources.

Interesting read if you have the time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

My Movie IQ Tests ajb007/wink
James Bond  |  Jason Bourne

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Kovert Potato wrote:

I'm going to guess its a scam or a joke.

Whatever it is, the real Illuminati would not message you on instagram, and you certainly don't apply for membership like a club.

We’re not a country club!

Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

I've been  told by the Illuminati
To say they don't  exist  ajb007/wink

Funny you should mention that, TP:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zu8fdFFrSY

"The tough man of the world. The secret agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).

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Speaking to a lady yesterday She told me that we're all getting free power from Tesla soon.
..... Which is Nice  ajb007/smile  I bet the Illuminati will put a stop to that.

“God has given you one face, and you make yourself another"