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Topic: GoldenEye Workprint

Greetings, Bond fanbase. I am Bond007Fan, and I just registered on this site to talk to you about a certain topic.

Five years ago, in 2013, talk of a workprint of the Martin Campbell-directed GoldenEye, which was released in 1995 with heavy cuts by the MPAA and BBFC.

I heard about it in 2014 or 2015, I believe, on the MI6 Community forums, and what intrigued me the most is that this particular version of the film is the only fully uncut version, albeit in an unfinished form.

The MPAA and BBFC cuts are, as follows:

  • During the pre-credit sequence, when 006 is shot, originally one clearly saw the impact to the head, but this has now been deleted

  • The sex scene with Xenia making out with the admiral and eventually suffocating him has been much reduced.

  • Bond's rabbit punch on Xenia during a car ride was moved offscreen.

  • The Severnaya hijack sequence was also cut with numerous shots removed of the workers being gunned down by Xenia.

  • Furthermore, Xenia's death was also toned down; originally her body was seen writhing against the tree for longer, before her back breaks with a crack and she slumps dead. The slump, sans sound effect, is all that remains.

  • When Trevelyan turns over after falling from the dish, the shot showing his bloodied face and a trickle of blood running oozing from his mouth was shortened.

There were also what the Melon Farmers website calls "UK Specific Cuts" to headbutts during the Xenia/Bond confrontation and the climatic antenna fight. These cuts were eventually restored, although the rest of the cut material is yet to surface.

This is what made me want the full workprint to pop up on the internet. I was recently talking to Jeff Roman and Martin Muller on Facebook about the workprint, and the latter directed me to www.independenttalent.com where I was able to contact the agent of Martin Campbell, and I highly recommend you do too, to get some clarity on the workprint version.

Jeff Roman told me that only hardcore Bond fans are in possession of the workprint, and refer to keep it to themselves to keep it "rare". It was then that he told me his best bet was to ask the people on the Bond forums and maybe someone would bite.

And now, here we are.

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Re: GoldenEye Workprint

If it had some deleted scenes or alternate takes, or perhaps a different edit it would be more interesting to me, but those sound like only very slight changes all just revolving around some quick flashes of violence. Is that interesting?
And in the case of the shot of 006 being shot it surely raises more problems for the plot! ajb007/smile

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emtiem wrote:

If it had some deleted scenes or alternate takes, or perhaps a different edit it would be more interesting to me, but those sound like only very slight changes all just revolving around some quick flashes of violence. Is that interesting?
And in the case of the shot of 006 being shot it surely raises more problems for the plot! ajb007/smile

Believe me, it has alternate takes all over the place! And FYI, the shot of 006 being shot was a blank.

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What do you mean by 'impact to the head'?

The alternate takes thing does sound more interesting, then.

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emtiem wrote:

What do you mean by 'impact to the head'?

The alternate takes thing does sound more interesting, then.

According to various sources, the shot was originally a continuing angle, showing Ourumov firing the gun into the base of Alec's skull (presumably bloodless) after the latter's line "For England, James!", then he falls to the ground as James runs off. In the final version, we cut to a close-up shot of Ourumov firing, James putting his hands up, and Alec falling to the floor.

Now, I think the headshot should've been kept in the PG-13 cut of the film, because there was barely any blood in it. And if there ain't no blood, don't fix it.

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it would definitely be interesting to see a cut of the film with more explicit violence and sex, if it exists. What's with these hoarders keeping the really good stuff to themselves?

Alec's faked death was the subject of several pages of debate in the Little Niggles thread a while back, see posts 885 onwards. I hope Firemass and Punker are seeing this.

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caractacus potts wrote:

it would definitely be interesting to see a cut of the film with more explicit violence and sex, if it exists. What's with these hoarders keeping the really good stuff to themselves?

Alec's faked death was the subject of several pages of debate in the Little Niggles thread a while back, see posts 885 onwards. I hope Firemass and Punker are seeing this.

Was it? ajb007/smile

Jeff Roman off Facebook says they "want the   Brexit to stay rare". He then added, "if it got spread out all over the internet then it's not rare".

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Bond007Fan wrote:

to get some clarity on the workprint version

What does that mean? Did somebody give you the workprint or not at the end?

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caractacus potts wrote:

it would definitely be interesting to see a cut of the film with more explicit violence and sex, if it exists. What's with these hoarders keeping the really good stuff to themselves?

Alec's faked death was the subject of several pages of debate in the Little Niggles thread a while back, see posts 885 onwards. I hope Firemass and Punker are seeing this.

Woah.
Add me to the list.
Why you do this, collectors?

But I'm afraid this makes even less sense now.
Was Ourumov's gun a paint squirter or did Trevelyan use Mission Impossible style face-swapping sometime during the facility with a hired actor?
Unless it was a Octopussy style headshot like the one on the Russian guard Bond shoots as Orlov escapes the trailer.

Last edited by Dirty Punker (29th May 2018 12:13)

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Dirty Punker wrote:
caractacus potts wrote:

it would definitely be interesting to see a cut of the film with more explicit violence and sex, if it exists. What's with these hoarders keeping the really good stuff to themselves?

Alec's faked death was the subject of several pages of debate in the Little Niggles thread a while back, see posts 885 onwards. I hope Firemass and Punker are seeing this.

Woah.
Add me to the list.
Why you do this, collectors?

But I'm afraid this makes even less sense now.
Was Ourumov's gun a paint squirter or did Trevelyan use Mission Impossible style face-swapping sometime during the facility with a hired actor?
Unless it was a Octopussy style headshot like the one on the Russian guard Bond shoots as Orlov escapes the trailer.

Right now, I'm leaning toward the Octopussy-style headshot.

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Re: GoldenEye Workprint

Bond007Fan wrote:
Dirty Punker wrote:
caractacus potts wrote:

it would definitely be interesting to see a cut of the film with more explicit violence and sex, if it exists. What's with these hoarders keeping the really good stuff to themselves?

Alec's faked death was the subject of several pages of debate in the Little Niggles thread a while back, see posts 885 onwards. I hope Firemass and Punker are seeing this.

Woah.
Add me to the list.
Why you do this, collectors?

But I'm afraid this makes even less sense now.
Was Ourumov's gun a paint squirter or did Trevelyan use Mission Impossible style face-swapping sometime during the facility with a hired actor?
Unless it was a Octopussy style headshot like the one on the Russian guard Bond shoots as Orlov escapes the trailer.

Right now, I'm leaning toward the Octopussy-style headshot.

I thought you might.
ajb007/lol

a reasonable rate of return

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There's an alternate take of Bond entering the yacht in the workprint where Bond is firing his gun after he opens door instead of just pointing it because Bond was originally supposed to spot Xenia there.

Screencap of the alternate taken from the actual workprint:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/f51tv6b.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90b0jLEAUI

The reason this was changed is because originally there was a removed scene where Bond would chase Xenia on the yacht when she tries to flee it. In the released film we only get to see Bond finding the dead body of the admiral and then cutting straight to bond jumping on the speedboat to chase Xenia to the tiger helicopter omitting the earlier chase. I don't have any footage of that scene itself however there is a rare promotional still of it when they were filming that chase scene on the yacht:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1a/91/db/1a91db2fc9a81168220f40bdc13ed49a.jpg

Last edited by bigjamesbondfan (30th May 2018 16:35)

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That would actually make Bond chasing the Tiger all that more logical, but firing a pistol at such a situation without a suppressor and not being alarmed is a bit silly. But I guess it's better than firing a suppressed pistol with a regular gun shot sound effect.

GoldenEye is starting to become much, much more interesting with the workprint cut.
Why don't they just release it themselves a-la Blade Runner?
GE is unanimously loved by non-fans due to the Nintendo 64 game and it would certainly stir up the hive, guaranteeing sales.

A welcome to you as-well.

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bigjamesbondfan wrote:

There's an alternate take of Bond entering the yacht in the workprint where Bond is firing his gun after he opens door instead of just pointing it because Bond was originally supposed to spot Xenia there.

Screencap of the alternate taken from the actual workprint:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/f51tv6b.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90b0jLEAUI

The reason this was changed is because originally there was a removed scene where Bond would chase Xenia on the yacht when she tries to flee it. In the released film we only get to see Bond finding the dead body of the admiral and then cutting straight to bond jumping on the speedboat to chase Xenia to the tiger helicopter omitting the earlier chase. I don't have any footage of that scene itself however there is a rare promotional still of it when they were filming that chase scene on the yacht:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1a/91/db/1a91db2fc9a81168220f40bdc13ed49a.jpg

Thanks for sharing, mate. Did you know that video was uploaded by my good friend Robert Bolton? ajb007/smile

Now I just hope the footage for the uncut 006 headshot will show up soon~

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I love the idea of Bond chasing Xenia through the yacht! I really wish they would have kept it in.

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Not incredibly relevant, but amusing:

https://s15.postimg.cc/5eggg76uv/AA_OLD_MAN_3.jpg

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Interesting stuff: I've certainly never seen that photo before.

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http://i.imgur.com/pIG2SCM.png
Apparently, Robert has a Imgur account known as Gunbarrels007 (at least, I think it's him), and he was nice enough to upload this rarity from the film.

This is a screencap from the uncut version of the Admiral/Xenia sex scene, with extra footage of the pair's shadows on the wall. I have no idea the source of this pic other than, but it's good to see one of the long lost uncut scenes has finally been unearthed.

Now, if only we can get this version of the scene in video form...

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Yes there is a compilation of clips from the workprint on youtube with all sorts things that are different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJZc0uFif7M

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bigjamesbondfan wrote:

Yes there is a compilation of clips from the workprint on youtube with all sorts things that are different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJZc0uFif7M

Oh, God! I remember that vid!

As soon as it got to the bit where Alec is taken hostage, I was expecting the headshot to be in it, but my expectations were sadly dashed. :/

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Re: GoldenEye Workprint

Bond007Fan wrote:
bigjamesbondfan wrote:

There's an alternate take of Bond entering the yacht in the workprint where Bond is firing his gun after he opens door instead of just pointing it because Bond was originally supposed to spot Xenia there.

Screencap of the alternate taken from the actual workprint:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/f51tv6b.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90b0jLEAUI

The reason this was changed is because originally there was a removed scene where Bond would chase Xenia on the yacht when she tries to flee it. In the released film we only get to see Bond finding the dead body of the admiral and then cutting straight to bond jumping on the speedboat to chase Xenia to the tiger helicopter omitting the earlier chase. I don't have any footage of that scene itself however there is a rare promotional still of it when they were filming that chase scene on the yacht:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1a/91/db/1a91db2fc9a81168220f40bdc13ed49a.jpg

Thanks for sharing, mate. Did you know that video was uploaded by my good friend Robert Bolton? ajb007/smile

Now I just hope the footage for the uncut 006 headshot will show up soon~

Those clothes look perfect. Hope to see Craig in something like that.

Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.

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Just saw the vid.
Did all Bond work-prints use placeholder music and sound-effects?
The casino music does sound like an extended version of "We Share The Same Passions"

This isn't exactly legal but I would be very interested to see the full movie in its work-print form.
Can't it be uploaded to MEGA or something and have the link pm'd to interested parties?

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Dirty Punker wrote:

Just saw the vid.
Did all Bond work-prints use placeholder music and sound-effects?
The casino music does sound like an extended version of "We Share The Same Passions"

This isn't exactly legal but I would be very interested to see the full movie in its work-print form.
Can't it be uploaded to MEGA or something and have the link pm'd to interested parties?

I dunno, but it is a possibility.

That MEGA thing sounds like a brilliant idea to share the workprint so we can put this to rest.

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bigjamesbondfan wrote:

Yes there is a compilation of clips from the workprint on youtube with all sorts things that are different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJZc0uFif7M

How come the music plays without a cut when the scene jumps from the Aston arriving at the casino to Bond talking to Xenia? If that’s the tune on the work print the music should jump too, unless the uploader was making weird edits of his own.

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emtiem wrote:
bigjamesbondfan wrote:

Yes there is a compilation of clips from the workprint on youtube with all sorts things that are different:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJZc0uFif7M

How come the music plays without a cut when the scene jumps from the Aston arriving at the casino to Bond talking to Xenia? If that’s the tune on the work print the music should jump too, unless the uploader was making weird edits of his own.

My guess is the uploader added the music artificially in place of the footage without music.