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It seems there's smoke in them there trees... in Swinley Forest, according to Fukunaga's latest Instagram pic. Smoke from crashed, burning cars?

https://www.instagram.com/p/B05YmmDBLIF/

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Same helicopter and boat that was said to be docked in Croatia...

https://i.postimg.cc/q6TwtGvx/73-F557-F2-8-A10-4443-811-D-45-DE6-FCF37-B3.jpg

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Arbogast777 wrote:

Same helicopter and boat that was said to be docked in Croatia...

https://i.postimg.cc/q6TwtGvx/73-F557-F2-8-A10-4443-811-D-45-DE6-FCF37-B3.jpg

Not the same boat...

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ggl007 wrote:
Arbogast777 wrote:

Same helicopter and boat that was said to be docked in Croatia...

https://i.postimg.cc/q6TwtGvx/73-F557-F2-8-A10-4443-811-D-45-DE6-FCF37-B3.jpg

Not the same boat...

Definitely not the same boat. This chopper is on the main deck, the other yacht had the helicopter on the top deck.
https://twitter.com/RoyTheBoyF1/status/ … 89121?s=20

Apparently, someone at his hotel in Sorrento, Amalfi told him they are filming for James Bond. Sounds highly improbable to me. Amalfi is a long way from Matera and the other confirmed locations.
https://twitter.com/crazyitalian7/statu … 41186?s=20

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Official Gravina town announcement about Bond.
https://comune.gravina.ba.it/in-allesti … ames-bond/

With the recent focus on the construction of a set in the town of Matera, it seems work is ongoing elsewhere and according to this Gravina town statement, it reveals they have been there since the start of August and they were filming in Gravina yesterday and again today. Gravina is 17 miles north of the town of Matera.

It's also interesting to note that it says they are filming in Gravina until the end of September. That is a little bit later than previous Italian local government statements about the timetable. They are supposed to be in Matera town from mid-August until mid-September. With other locations also confirmed of the Maratea coast and the Riva Dei Ginepri BeachClub, the infro from Marketto007's source of filming going into October seems more likely.

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Bond25 producer is staying at La Locanda hotel, Maratea.
https://twitter.com/LocandaMonache/stat … 93249?s=20

This Enzo Sisti is a producer for Bond25.
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/jame … 203158215/

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Someone wrote:
ggl007 wrote:
Arbogast777 wrote:

Same helicopter and boat that was said to be docked in Croatia...

https://i.postimg.cc/q6TwtGvx/73-F557-F2-8-A10-4443-811-D-45-DE6-FCF37-B3.jpg

Not the same boat...

Definitely not the same boat. This chopper is on the main deck, the other yacht had the helicopter on the top deck.
https://twitter.com/RoyTheBoyF1/status/ … 89121?s=20

Apparently, someone at his hotel in Sorrento, Amalfi told him they are filming for James Bond. Sounds highly improbable to me. Amalfi is a long way from Matera and the other confirmed locations.
https://twitter.com/crazyitalian7/statu … 41186?s=20

Looking at the picture closely you can see this yacht has the name Planet Nine.

Just to check if it may have anything to do with Bond25, I used this marine vessel tracking website, marinetraffic.com. This morning Planet Nine weighed anchor and is heading East, towards the Tyrrhenian coast. You can track it at this website; https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/ho … 98/zoom:10

If it keeps heading down the Tyrrhenian coast towards Maratea, maybe it is? It has plenty of time to get there for a late August, early September shoot.

I screen gabbed this. Planet Nine is the ship shape surrounded by dots and at the centre of the picture.
https://i.postimg.cc/QKVkQz4C/marine.jpg

Who knew there was a Tyrrhenian sea? It's between the Italian mainland, Corsica, Sardinia and Sicily.
https://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infop … iansea.htm

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New pictures of the set construction in Matera, which is to be a hotel room.
http://www.sassilive.it/cultura-e-spett … rt-e-foto/

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Young Madeleine's Scandinavian house reappears in, Swinley Forest, England.
https://twitter.com/Station_Z/status/11 … 40512?s=20

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Someone wrote:

Young Madeleine's Scandinavian house reappears in, Swinley Forest, England.
https://twitter.com/Station_Z/status/11 … 40512?s=20

And we know that's a young Madeline how?

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Arbogast777 wrote:
Someone wrote:

Young Madeleine's Scandinavian house reappears in, Swinley Forest, England.
https://twitter.com/Station_Z/status/11 … 40512?s=20

And we know that's a young Madeline how?

I was wondering the same thing. I still think the child is a clone of Madeline.

Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope

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According to Calvin Dyson's youtube channel, a source claims that the title for Bond 25 may be "Genoma Of A Woman"

1 - Avtak, 2 - Op, 3 - Ltk, 4 - Lald, 5 - Fyeo, 6 - Ohmss, 7 - Sf, 8 - Dn, 9 - Ge, 10 - Daf, 11 - Tmwtgg, 12 - Tswlm, 13 - Mr, 14 - Tld, 15 - Yolt, 16 - Sp, 17 - Gf, 18 - Frwl, 19 - Dad, 20 - Qos, 21 - Tnd, 22 - Twine, 23 - Tb, 24 - Cr

1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby

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Arbogast777 wrote:
Someone wrote:

Young Madeleine's Scandinavian house reappears in, Swinley Forest, England.
https://twitter.com/Station_Z/status/11 … 40512?s=20

And we know that's a young Madeline how?

And you never saw this post how?
https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/940933/#p940933

At the beginning of this year, this casting call in France for a Lea Seydoux look-a-like was, eh, called.
https://figurants.com/figuration-enfant … doux_i8472

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Some more pictures of the Matera hotel room set.
https://www.lagazzettadelmezzogiorno.it … i-007.html

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Someone wrote:

At the beginning of this year, this casting call in France for a Lea Seydoux look-a-like was, eh, called.
https://figurants.com/figuration-enfant … doux_i8472

This is a perfect example of trying to force the evidence to fit the theory.

Lea Seydoux has 4 other movies coming out besides Bond 25. There is nothing to indicate that call wasn't for one of those other movies. As a matter of fact, I would say it probably was for one of those other movies because Bond 25's casting is more likely to be done out of the UK, not France.

It is also possible that a young Madeline was indeed cast for Bond 25, but she is a different character from the girl in Norway.

In short, we do NOT know who the girl in that scene is.

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Arbogast777 wrote:
Someone wrote:

At the beginning of this year, this casting call in France for a Lea Seydoux look-a-like was, eh, called.
https://figurants.com/figuration-enfant … doux_i8472

This is a perfect example of trying to force the evidence to fit the theory. Lea Seydoux has 4 other movies coming out besides Bond 25.

No it isn't, the evidence does not have to be forced.

According to IMDB, Lea Seydoux's next film coming out is Rubaix, Une lumiere and its released this month. Lea plays a young woman, and she is a neighbour of an old lady who is murdered. And there are no Lea look-a-likes in the cast.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8359840/fu … cl_sm#cast

Lea has two films coming out in 2020 and a third which is being filmed now and a fourth in pre-production.

That fourth film, Par ce demi-clair matin, stars Lea and she plays a struggling celebrity journalist. A film in pre-production now would not need a casting call in January this year.

The third film, The story of my wife, is a romance film and its cast can be seen here.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8205028/fu … cl_sm#cast
No Lea look-a-likes in the cast.

The two films Lea definitley has coming out in 2020 are, Bond25 and The French Dispatch.

The French Dispatch is a Wes Anderson WWII comedy, romance film which also stars Kate Winslet, Timothee Chalamet, Christoph Waltz, Tilda Swinton, Bill Murray and a whole host of other well know actors. Again, no young Lea look-a-likes in the cast.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8847712/fu … cl_sm#cast

Bond25 has already had scenes leaked where the young Madeleine look-a-like falls/jumps into a lake. The January casting call wanted a child actor, 10-14 years of age, and it also said: "The child will have to know how to swim and be comfortable in the water. Important role." An important role.

So, none of Lea's other films have a 10-14 age child in them whose role is important, or would obviously have to be able to swim. Bond25 we know for a fact has a child in it aged 10-14 years and they have to swim.

Arbogast007 wrote:

I would say it probably was for one of those other movies because Bond 25's casting is more likely to be done out of the UK, not France.

Really? Bond films casting is always international. Lea is a French actress. It follows they would look for a French child. As it is, the girl in Norway is British. So, you actually just proved my point.

Arbgast007 wrote:

It is also possible that a young Madeline was indeed cast for Bond 25, but she is a different character from the girl in Norway. In short, we do NOT know who the girl in that scene is.

The evidence points to one conclusion. So much so that over at M6Community they have been talking about the girl being a clone of Madeleine.

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Someone wrote:

According to IMDB, Lea Seydoux's next film coming out is Rubaix, Une lumiere and its released this month. Lea plays a young woman, and she is a neighbour of an old lady who is murdered. And there are no Lea look-a-likes in the cast.

"Oh, Mercy," the English title of "Rubaix, Une Lumiere," was filmed in France. The auditions "to interpret Léa Seydoux child" took place in France.

Here is a plot synopsis:

"One of the crimes that Louis investigates involves arson in a house in a very modest street, where Claude (Lea Seydoux) and her girlfriend, Marie (Sara Forestier), are two of the neighbors that are questioned as witnesses. Their case will eventually balloon into a much more complex murder case that takes over the narrative’s entire second half, as the women become suspects. Worried about their future and Claude’s child, they are initially interrogated separately, where they deliver quite different versions of what happened."

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Someone wrote:

The evidence points to one conclusion. So much so that over at M6Community they have been talking about the girl being a clone of Madeleine.

I may not be remembering this correctly. But my sense is that the casting announcement for the girl didn't suggest they were looking for an accomplished child actor. One would think Madeleine's clone would be a part requiring a kid who does more than just resemble Lea.

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Arbogast777 wrote:

Here is a plot synopsis:
"One of the crimes that Louis investigates involves arson in a house in a very modest street, where Claude (Lea Seydoux) and her girlfriend, Marie (Sara Forestier), are two of the neighbors that are questioned as witnesses. Their case will eventually balloon into a much more complex murder case that takes over the narrative’s entire second half, as the women become suspects. Worried about their future and Claude’s child, they are initially interrogated separately, where they deliver quite different versions of what happened."

It's actually a plot description from this Hollywood Reporter story;
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/revie … ew-1212750

To paraphrase Cheverian

Cheverian wrote:

One would think [Claude's child] would be a part requiring a kid who does more than just resemble Lea.

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Someone wrote:

It's actually a plot description from this Hollywood Reporter story;
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/revie … ew-1212750

To paraphrase Cheverian

Cheverian wrote:

One would think [Claude's child] would be a part requiring a kid who does more than just resemble Lea.

Yes I know the description came from the review in the Hollywood Reporter. I posted it just yesterday and I can certainly remember that far back to where I got it.

You're telling me that I have shown you that Lea Seydoux shot a movie in France earlier this year, that the casting call for someone to play her child took place in France earlier this year, and now someone who has seen the movie confirms that she does in fact have a child in this movie - but you're still saying the casting call can't possibly be for anything but Bond 25!?

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Jarvio wrote:

According to Calvin Dyson's youtube channel, a source claims that the title for Bond 25 may be "Genoma Of A Woman"

That is going to make quite an interesting title song, if they think about incorporating the name of the movie to the lyrics...  ajb007/rolleyes

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Aahhh doppio...

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Arbogast777 wrote:

Yes I know the description came from the review in the Hollywood Reporter. I posted it just yesterday and I can certainly remember that far back to where I got it.

You said it was a synopsis. It's not an official synopsis. Its a journalist's description.

Arbogast777 wrote:

You're telling me that I have shown you that Lea Seydoux shot a movie in France earlier this year, that the casting call for someone to play her child took place in France earlier this year, and now someone who has seen the movie confirms that she does in fact have a child in this movie - but you're still saying the casting call can't possibly be for anything but Bond 25!?

Yes. Four reasons why;

1. We don't know how old Claude's child is. There is no tween/teenager on the IMDb cast list. The child in the casting call is 10-14 years of age. My guess is, 34-year old Lea is playing a younger 20-something character and the child will be under 10 years old.

2. The casting call said the role was important, yet, there is no child on the IMDb cast list.

3. The casting call said swimming was important, yet there is no evidence of any swimming from the Hollywood Reporter report.

4. We know, FOR A FACT, that Bond25 has a girl in it, who is 14 years old or younger, she is blonde, like the Madeleine character, and her scene(s) involves a LAKE. And it's becoming increasingly likely that this girl who we see right at the start of the film, after the PTS, is important, as the casting call said. So, the obvious conclusion is that the casting call was for Bond25. Obvs.

BTW Just to cover another topic. I don't believe this Genoma of a woman title rhubarb. I don't understand why anyone would give that 5sec of consideration.

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Someone wrote:

1. We don't know how old Claude's child is. There is no tween/teenager on the IMDb cast list. The child in the casting call is 10-14 years of age. My guess is, 34-year old Lea is playing a younger 20-something character and the child will be under 10 years old.

Someone, just for the sake of clarity Claude tells the police investigator her daughter is six years old. The film was shown at Cannes in May but the trailer is available for viewing.

You may recall from my early interventions that my interest is in seeing Lea, as she said in the IV launch, get to know more about Madeleine.

I won't rehearse all the points of context about the Norwegian Cabin but suffice to say Baz Bamigboye indicated in early March the following.:-

"Filmmaker Cary Joji Fukunaga and a small crew are heading to Norway to shoot a frozen lake before it thaws. The footage will be incorporated into the pre-credit scenes for Bond 25, starring Daniel Craig."

Naturally he is only a journalist but everything that has followed (CB, stunt doubles, movement coaches, Rami's confirmation of filming in Norway, BB on a pre existing link with the villain) certainly doesn't dissuade me from his early March statement that it is part of the PTS and (My view) that the PTS is "Craig style" and sets up what comes later including the relationship between the two on the Ice which the audience is made aware of.   

Oh and the Ombre Puffa Jacket is a riff on 90's stylings.

Enjoy the rest of your analysis I am now at the point I do not wish to know more but I am very excited by the unorthodoxy of the structure. (Long PTS, Bond retired, London end of Act 2 etc and I like the contrasting locations.)

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Michelle Johnston wrote:

Someone, just for the sake of clarity Claude tells the police investigator her daughter is six years old. The film was shown at Cannes in May but the trailer is available for viewing.

Thanks Michelle. Nice input. I think this must make it certain that the casting call was for Bond25.

Here is a subtitled clip from the film and in it, at 1min 24sec, Claude says she has a 6-year old daughter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS-2B8Vl_fA

Michelle Johnston wrote:

I won't rehearse all the points of context about the Norwegian Cabin but suffice to say Baz Bamigboye indicated in early March the following.:- "Filmmaker Cary Joji Fukunaga and a small crew are heading to Norway to shoot a frozen lake before it thaws. The footage will be incorporated into the pre-credit scenes for Bond 25, starring Daniel Craig."

What we know now is that it is not part of the pre-credit scenes, as we have seen the scene 15K clapperboard for the Norway scenes and 15K will be after the credits.

Michelle Johnston wrote:

Oh and the Ombre Puffa Jacket is a riff on 90's stylings.

Yes this is another reason why people though it is a flashback.