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Tennyson wrote:

DC’s seem to have press studs on the thigh pockets, where as Nomi’s don’t... maybe ‘his and hers’ versions

Nomi has studs on her jacket pockets.

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Yesterday was the same number of days before the NTTD release date as when Skyfall's teaser trailer was released, 159 days.   
https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/961331/#p961331

We now know Friday 25 October was the end of filming for NTTD.

In comparison, Skyfall's teaser came out on 21 May 2012, two days after filming wrapped on 19 May.
The BBFC decision for the Skyfall teaser was 10 May 2012, 11 days before the trailer release.
The film's full trailer came out 2 months later on 31 July; 87 days before the 26 October UK release date.
https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=10191

For NTTD, 87 days before its 2 April release would be 6 January 2020. So, suggestions that the first full trailer will be attached to the Star Wars movie at Christmas (20 December for USA) makes sense.

There were 72 days between the Skyfall teaser (21 May 2012) and the first full trailer (31 July 2012). Whether it is a 20 Dec. trailer or 6 January, we are now within that 72-day period, suggesting the teaser wait will be shorter for NTTD.

After a mid-June filming finish for Quantum, the teaser came out a couple of weeks later on 30 June.
The BBFC decision did not predate the teaser drop for Quantum.
The full trailer came out about four weeks after the teaser, on 28 July 2008.
https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/article … s&s=qo
https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=6403

With a wait of 4 weeks between the Quantum teaser and full trailer, a 20 December trailer would see a late November NTTD teaser. If the historical BBFC approval pattern for DC's films holds, the approval could go live up to 10 days before the NTTD teaser drops, giving us a notification date of mid-November. A while off.

The teaser for Spectre came out on 27 March, more than 3 months before filming ended on 5 July and the full trailer was out 22 July.
For the Spectre teaser, the BBFC decision was 18 March 2015, 10 days before.
https://bbfc.co.uk/releases/spectre-2015
https://mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=11789

I've just noticed that Spectre, Skyfall and Quantum all had late July full trailer releases with late October UK release dates for all three films.

Casino's trailer was out 7 September, about three weeks after filming wrapped on 15 August, 200 days after a 27 January start. Casino's teaser trailer had come out 4 May 2006 after being approved by the BBFC 7 days earlier on 28 April. https://bbfc.co.uk/releases/casino-royale-2006-1
Casino's UK release date was 14 November, 68 days (2 months) after the full trailer.
https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?i … mp;catid=2
https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/no-time-to- … um=twitter

The late July trailer releases reinforce the late December, early January timetable for the NTTD full trailer. Then again, NTTD has a much longer post-production period, so could the full trailer be earlier? I think that as the trailers so consistently come out 3 months before the release date (with the exception of Casino), that won't change. But, the teaser could be with us before the end of November and maybe as early as mid-November. With a 10-day BBFC approval notification we may know by Friday 1 November, or maybe the following Friday.

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MrZareba wrote:

Boom - first official still from the movie!

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/new … U1WEy24oVw

To me, this channels pretty strongly the feeling of OHMSS, because Bond looks like he'd just had a rough après ski.

Like people have said; it could be a mine shaft, but what if it (again) is the machinery of a gondola lift?

"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech

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Someone wrote:

The apparent photo of Bond in a mine shaft next to the elevator drums and their steel cables has made me revisit the early Spectre drafts, leaked in the Sony email hack, and posted on here by the user Marketto007.

In those early Spectre drafts, a diamond mine in Africa was part of the plot. An early Spectre draft also had Bond and Q escape a mine collapse. I think the mine is part of the third act, but Q won’t be present.

We know that the synopsis is:
Bond has left active service and is enjoying a tranquil life in Jamaica.
His peace is short-lived when his old friend Felix Leiter from the CIA turns up asking for help.
The mission to rescue a kidnapped scientist turns out to be far more treacherous than expected, leading Bond onto the trail of a mysterious villain armed with dangerous new technology.

In an early version of Spectre’s script there is a Scandinavian villa and a young girl. We now know this as scene 15K. I think this is a Madeleine dream sequence after the credits, and not the PTS, and a sleeping Madeleine wakes up in the DB5 and scene 16 sees her and Bond arrive in Matera. It’s now clear from the official and unofficial clapperboard pics that Matera is where Spectre finds them both and the sequence ends with Bond putting Madeleine on a train; and there they go their separate ways.

In film structure the first 10-minutes is supposed to be when the main characters are introduced. I think the dream sequence introduces Malek’s character; we now know that Rami Malek has done some Norway filming. The PTS, I think will be a Blofeld jail break action sequence without Bond. A free Blofeld then sends his goons to get Bond and Madeleine. The PTS may end with the ‘shock’ scene of M’s meeting with 007, who is revealed as Nomi. Her mission, to find Spectre and recapture Blofeld.

After Matera, as the synopsis says, Bond is enjoying a tranquil life in Jamaica, when his old friend Felix Leiter from the CIA turns up asking for help to rescue a kidnapped scientist, who will probably be Dencik’s character, Waldo. The mission, which I think takes Bond to Cuba, turns out to be far more treacherous than expected, and this is linked to the early Spectre drafts where there is a CIA agent called Charlotte who Bond worked with and who turns out to be a villain. Instead of a Charlotte, maybe it is Billy Magnussen’s CIA agent who betrays Bond and Leiter? The Sony hack emails also said that the CIA was working with Blofeld. We know Bond encounters Nomi in Jamaica. He may not know who she is then and she may later save Bond and Leiter in Cuba.

The fallout from the rescue mission could be a plot angle described in the Sony emails that “allies," the CIA and MI6, "are being picked apart creating paranoia and suspicion". This maybe why Bond goes back to MI6 to warn them. He then teams up with Lashana Lynch’s Nomi, and visits Q at his home, as we know. I think the trail of a mysterious villain armed with dangerous new technology leads Bond to see Madeleine for help. We know from a JamesBondBrasil story that we see Madeleine’s place of work in the film.

You then have a team of Bond, Nomi and Madeleine. This would explain why we see Madeleine and Nomi in the rocky beach pictures and then a RIB that appears to have Bond, Nomi and Madeleine onboard. In Casino, Bond worked with Vesper and Mathis at the same time, so I am not discouraged by the fact that there would be three of them. Why the trail leads them to a (Norwegian or Russian?) mine shaft is anyone’s guess, but I think Nomi and Bond wearing similar trousers shows that the mine shaft pic and the rocky beach pic with Madeleine are linked, and puts the mine in the third act.

Someone, you should come with your own personal spoiler warning!

This sure sounds like a plausible plot line to me based on what we know.

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I think the picture is from the villain's rumoured algae farm

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Cheverian wrote:

Someone, you should come with your own personal spoiler warning!

This sure sounds like a plausible plot line to me based on what we know.

I expect to be very wrong but it's fun to speculate and to compare how wrong I got it with the actual film.

While the Matera photos and videos were a bit much, overall I think we have seen very little. For example, my hypothesis does not include Paloma. Where does she fit in? I have no idea.

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Someone wrote:

I expect to be very wrong but it's fun to speculate and to compare how wrong I got it with the actual film.

While the Matera photos and videos were a bit much, overall I think we have seen very little. For example, my hypothesis does not include Paloma. Where does she fit in? I have no idea.


It‘s good to have you here, always thoughtful and interesting contributions.  ajb007/martini

I‘ve read somewhere that Paloma will be a henchwoman. Since Ana de Armas isn‘t menacing, etc. at all, I believe she‘ll be a Magda, Paris Carver or Corinne Dufour.

The name is Walker by the way.

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I just want the trailer already. Someone mentioned earlier that a moment might come that postponing the trailer release any further might actually hurt the film and they're not wrong - in the end when you look at big blockbuster movies there are usually 3 trailers + endless TV spots. Bond movies usually had 2 trailers + around 15 spots and honestly I start to think we won't get 2 trailers this time. It's a really weird, silent marketing campaign.

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We will definitely get two trailers, and many many TV spots. This film doesn’t come out for another 6 months. They might even hold the first trailer all the way until December and run it with Star Wars. That would be smart. You’d get a lot of eyes on it.

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I get the feeling they were holding off until Matera was done since it’s such a key action scene. 

Now with shooting wrapped and post production in swing we will see very soon

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Miles Messervy wrote:

We will definitely get two trailers, and many many TV spots. This film doesn’t come out for another 6 months. They might even hold the first trailer all the way until December and run it with Star Wars. That would be smart. You’d get a lot of eyes on it.

Good point with that Star Wars thing  ajb007/martini  Well, we'll se

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I'll laugh my a$$ off if the trailer is nothing but action shots from Matera.

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Assuming the first full NTTD trailer is with Star Wars on 20 December (a Friday), and will likely drop on the Internet a few days before then, the teaser is likely to arrive by 15 November; a month before.

Looking back at the time between the DC films' teaser and first full trailers, Casino saw 4 months between the teaser and trailer; Quantum saw a four week gap; Skyfall a 2 month wait; and Spectre, almost 4 months. Casino and Spectre had teasers released during filming.
https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/961763/#p961763
Quantum and Skyfall had teasers in the days and weeks after filming and their trailers came out 4-10 weeks after the teaser.
Casino's teaser came out on 4 May 2006, a Thursday.
Quantum's teaser came out on 30 June 2008, Monday
Skyfall teaser came out on 21 May 2012, a Monday.
Spectre teaser came out on 27 March 2015, a Friday.
All the films had their full trailers out about 3 months before the UK release date.

With a w/c 16 December full trailer drop likely, working backwards using Quantum and Skyfall's dates (we are already beyond a Skyfall equivalent teaser drop date of 72 days before the full trailer) places the teaser drop about 18 November, a Monday. The shortest amount of time seen between teaser and trailer for a DC film is Quantum's 4 weeks. 

With a circa 16 December full trailer drop, Skyfall's 72 days would have been 5 October and the average of Skyfall and Quantum's durations between teaser and trailer would be this week. So, the teaser drop must be between now and 18 November. Of the three DC films with BBFC approval before the teaser drop, it averages 9 days between BBFC approval and the teaser going live.

Assuming tomorrow the BBFC publishes its approval, the earliest date for the teaser would be 8 November, which being a Friday also matches the days of the week when teasers have been released; at the beginning or the end of the week. But, 8 November is ten days before the likely last date for the teaser release, 18 November.

As teasers have been dropped on Mondays or a Thursday or a Friday, it would seem the week of Monday 11 November is the most likely, and the BBFC approval will have to come in the next 7-10 days for that. The 11 November is the UK's veterans day, soooo.

I'll put my chips down for Thursday 14 November or Friday 15 November for the teaser release.

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"Ford v Ferrari" and "Charlie's Angels" are released on the 15th, but I'm not sure if you think the teaser will be linked to a movie or just be released on the internet?  ajb007/confused

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I think the teaser will drop online in early December. That way it can still run with Star Wars. A second trailer probably during the Super Bowl on Feb. 2, 2020. The Super Bowl just makes too much sense. With the usual fall release it’s never in play. But given that a 30 second spot costs about $5 million, I doubt they’ll run a full trailer.

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Number24 wrote:

"Ford v Ferrari" and "Charlie's Angels" are released on the 15th, but I'm not sure if you think the teaser will be linked to a movie or just be released on the internet?  ajb007/confused

I had thought the teaser will just be an Internet drop, but.

I'd imagine either film would cover a good demographic. Those two films must cover the age ranges of 16-24 and 35-55. So, sometime during the week commencing 11 November does look good.

BTW, Mission Impossible II came out Friday 5 May 2006, Hancock came out Wednesday 2 July 2008, Men in Black III Friday 25 May 2012 and Furious 7 came out Friday 3 April 2015.

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Anybody pick up the EMPIRE magazine with NTTD‘s exclusive content?

The name is Walker by the way.

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Someone wrote:
Number24 wrote:

"Ford v Ferrari" and "Charlie's Angels" are released on the 15th, but I'm not sure if you think the teaser will be linked to a movie or just be released on the internet?  ajb007/confused

I had thought the teaser will just be an Internet drop, but.

I'd imagine either film would cover a good demographic. Those two films must cover the age ranges of 16-24 and 35-55. So, sometime during the week commencing 11 November does look good.

BTW, Mission Impossible II came out Friday 5 May 2006, Hancock came out Wednesday 2 July 2008, Men in Black III Friday 25 May 2012 and Furious 7 came out Friday 3 April 2015.

With 7-11 days between BBFC approval and most of DC's teaser trailer drops, the BBFC approval will have to come in the next few days or a trailer next week would be highly unlikely.

If the German Bond fan site is right and it's a full trailer in early December then we can forget about a teaser. My problem with the early December full international trailer theory is that there are no obvious films for it to be attached to, while Ford vs Ferrari and Charlie's Angels are perfect.

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AugustWalker wrote:

Anybody pick up the EMPIRE magazine with NTTD‘s exclusive content?

I had a quick browse in Smiths, and all I saw inside the magazine were a few paragraphs of information that we already know. I couldn’t see anything else .

If you scroll down on here

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/new … age-story/

That is the piece.

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Scott Z. Burns teases NTTD 'You'll love what happens next'
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment … tt-z-burns

Speaking exclusively to Express.co.uk , Burns said: “I think Daniel [Craig] has been an incredible custodian of that character and I think for the people who like the direction he has taken it, they are going to really love what happens next.”

He added: “It’s fun for me because a few years ago I got to write a Jason Bourne movie and they’re definitely opposite sides of the same coin.

“So I’m thrilled to have had a chance to contribute to the other side of the coin.”

Burns, while not revealing any plot points, said director Fukunaga had a “clear vision” for the Bond 25 movie, and instilled in both Burns and Phoebe Waller-Bridge, who was brought on in April 2019 to edit the script, a sense of what direction they were to move in.

Asked what state the script was in when he arrived on it, Burns said: “It was in a completely reasonable state.

“Cary [Jojo Fukunaga, the director] had a very clear vision of what he wanted to do and I think what he encouraged me to do and then after I left, Phoebe, was to continue to push us towards something that both continued the time honoured traditions of Bond, but also continued to ground it in a world which we live in.

“That was what was exciting to me about going to work on it. Cary and Daniel and Barbara [Broccoli, one of the producers of Bond] all recognised that that was where they wanted to take this episode.”

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Recently watched some Fleabag episodes and wondered if Bond will similarly turn to the camera and address the audience...
;-)
Best regards
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/a … -film.html


https://i.postimg.cc/8j7TXLQP/EEEA8-BB9-A6-F4-434-B-AC34-F079-F4325812.jpg

Ffs, I can‘t believe that this kind of BS is even brought to the table by an actress.
If Lynch really proposed that, she should be kept away from the franchise because it shows she‘s only pushing a personal agenda.
So rather than thinking of interest plot points, she‘d rather have senseless and subject-unrelated sh!t like this...

Damn, that really gets me going... ajb007/mad

The name is Walker by the way.

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I wonder if she rolls her own ?

Last edited by Thunderpussy (10th Nov 2019 21:58)

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ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol      Yeah...   the tampon schtick is such typical Hollywood train wreck bull$hit..    but..  that’s where we are these days..  The age of “woke” pandering to hysterical fools..   I’m holding out hope the franchise hasn’t caved.. but I’m losing faith..