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Lady Ice wrote:

I reckon Madeleine will be pregnant and then get killed. They won't make Bond a father but surely can't resist a new twist.

Bond usually gets a PG-13 rating so I can't imagine they would kill a pregnant woman, not a heavily pregnant woman in a Bond film. The evidence we have from the rocky beach photos with Nomi, Bond and maybe a child, is that Madeleine survives, certainly to almost the very end, if not the end of the film, along with Nomi and maybe a child, who might be a clone of Madeleine.

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Yeah, I would venture to guess the clone of Madeleine theory is correct.

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Someone wrote:
Lady Ice wrote:

I reckon Madeleine will be pregnant and then get killed. They won't make Bond a father but surely can't resist a new twist.

Bond usually gets a PG-13 rating so I can't imagine they would kill a pregnant woman, not a heavily pregnant woman in a Bond film. The evidence we have from the rocky beach photos with Nomi, Bond and maybe a child, is that Madeleine survives, certainly to almost the very end, if not the end of the film, along with Nomi and maybe a child, who might be a clone of Madeleine.

Definitely not heavily pregnant- maybe even trying for a baby prior to her being killed or it is discovered afterwards. It just seems like an obvious opportunity for drama, particularly with the soapy direction the films have been taking.

Wasn't License to Kill a PG-13 and Leiter's fiancee is murdered on her honeymoon (and strong implication she was raped)?

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Lady Ice wrote:
Someone wrote:
Lady Ice wrote:

I reckon Madeleine will be pregnant and then get killed. They won't make Bond a father but surely can't resist a new twist.

Bond usually gets a PG-13 rating so I can't imagine they would kill a pregnant woman, not a heavily pregnant woman in a Bond film. The evidence we have from the rocky beach photos with Nomi, Bond and maybe a child, is that Madeleine survives, certainly to almost the very end, if not the end of the film, along with Nomi and maybe a child, who might be a clone of Madeleine.

Definitely not heavily pregnant- maybe even trying for a baby prior to her being killed or it is discovered afterwards. It just seems like an obvious opportunity for drama, particularly with the soapy direction the films have been taking.

Wasn't License to Kill a PG-13 and Leiter's fiancee is murdered on her honeymoon (and strong implication she was raped)?

I think it was PG-13, but she is just lying on the bed and there is no blood from what I can remember. I think you need blood to get to NC-17 or R.

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Reflecting on the possible 2h 54min running time and the fact that the clapperboards we know about would suggest that after Bond visits Blofeld in prison there is another hour of the movie, it seems there must be more filming locations than we know of, or Pinewood has been heavily used.

The PTS was filmed in Norway, near Oslo. Matera was used from about 15 mins into the film until about 40 mins. Then the film likely has the raid on Portondown and the scientist kidnapping, both of which could be filmed at Pinewood. Next, by 54 minutes we're in Jamaica and that was filmed in Jamaica, maybe with some interior shots filmed at Pinewood. Then it is Cuba and that was filmed in Jamaica and at Pinewood.

After Cuba Bond goes to MI6 and visits Q at home and we know that is a mix of London and Pinewood. Bond's visit to Wakefield prison will also be Pinewood. Next is likely Russia or an island in Russian territory (which could have been established with filming of the Faroe islands, which saw aerial filming.) and a car chase which was filmed on Norway's Atlantic road and in Scotland. The latter part of this chase was also filmed in Swinley Forest, where we see Bond left behind by the departing helicopter. The interior of Safin's lair was no doubt Pinewood, and then Bond, Nomi and Madeleine's escape was filmed in part on the Italian coastline.

Looking at the end of the second act and the third act that will make up the story from 1h 54mins to 2h 54mins, there doesn't seem to be enough locations. Where do Bond and Madeleine go in the Vantage after London? OK, they end up in a car chase, but how much of the hour will that consume? The Spectre Austria plane/car chase lasted six minutes. Maybe it is a multiple vehicle chase, like Skyfall's PTS, which lasted about 12 minutes. Then we have Nomi finding Bond and Bond and Nomi in Safin's lair, and the rocky beach escape.

Skyfall's third act, from the end of the committe hearing attack to M's death, and excluding the epilogue, was about 30mins long, and Spectre's 3rd act was about 20 mins long, from the Tangier base explosion until Bond walks away with Madeleine. So, the Nomi, Bond Safin lair attack and escape is likely to be 20-30 minutes, long, plus a few minutes for an epilogue of somesort. So, we have about 60 minutes of movie, but we can only account for about 10 minutes of car and helicopter chase and that 30 minutes of the third act attack on Safin's lair and rocky beach escape.

Twenty minutes can't be accounted for, although the epilogue, and Nomi finding Bond and whatever Bond, Madeleine scenes link London with the Atlantic bridge filmed car chase, you're still looking at 10-15 minutes of unaccounted for screentime. Blofeld prison escape? Safin, and Blofeld, hosting a captive Madeleine and/or Q? The unused game of cards from the leaked Spectre script?

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https://ew.com/movies/2020/01/21/daniel … die-cover/

new stuff, haven't read it yet so I postet it in the spoiler-thread but I don't know if theres really something new in it

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Noi wrote:

https://ew.com/movies/2020/01/21/daniel … die-cover/

new stuff, haven't read it yet so I postet it in the spoiler-thread but I don't know if theres really something new in it


Pretty amazed, this photoshoot is quite reminiscent of the ones from the Brosnan-era. The lighting and Craig‘s relaxed posing anyway...

The name is Walker by the way.

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Noi wrote:

https://ew.com/movies/2020/01/21/daniel … die-cover/

new stuff, haven't read it yet so I postet it in the spoiler-thread but I don't know if theres really something new in it

It confirms:
Blofeld is in contact with Spectre from his prison cell.
In Cuba, Bond is at a Havana hotel.
Bond and Paloma fight Spectre henchmen.
Phoebe Waller-Bridge rewrote scenes, not just dialogue.
David Dencik is the kidnapped scientist.

It quotes Barbara Broccoli as saying Blofeld is in Belmarsh prison but the trailer shows he is in Wakefield prison. In Skyfall, Silva is supposed to be going to Belmarsh. The article also says that Babs and Mike almost shut down production after Boyle quit.

In the video roundtable with DC, Lashana Lynch, Rami Malek and Lea Seydoux:
DC says NTTD is a continuation of the story in Casino and rounds up of everything.
DC also says that Safin is going to solve one of the world's problems, suggesting he has something that will reduce the population.

In the past DC has said of his Bond films, during the publicity, that they have created something 'special', but this time his wording is not as positive. "We did our best...It's as good as it is."

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So far I've only seen the video of the roundtable talk so far. Thanks to Noi for finding this article  ajb007/bond
The mood around the table is very good and lighthearted, I don't recall such good spirits during the interviews from Craig's earlier Bonds. We get some very good insights into Malek's and Lynch's characters. I too noticed what's said about Safin's intentions of solving one of the world's biggest problems. Overpopulation is an obvious posibility, but I think another posibility is food scarcity. Perhaps he set out producing more food, but something went wrong on a scientific and/or psycological level? Can it be Safin started out trying to produce lots of food in the oceans, but realised it woudn't be enough and decided to reduce the population instead? Maybe he wants to do it by using the tecnology designed to grow food to poison the oceans?

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Like Someone said, these two statements are very interesting:

In the movie’s trailer, Safin also appears to have facial scarring. “Let’s just say that there are some immense challenges [he] has faced in his life,” says Malek.

“Blofeld is in Belmarsh Prison,” says Broccoli. “[But] he’s actually communicating to the SPECTRE agents.”

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new production stills
https://i.postimg.cc/3dpZf0F7/1.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/fVffD4Pr/2.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/VS790qm9/3.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/MnSCKQ6K/4.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/5jm7qRb1/5.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/PCCSHfZr/6.jpg
I ask me where Bond and Swann are? it doesn't look like Matera anymore but I could be wrong

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Noi wrote:

new production stills
https://i.postimg.cc/3dpZf0F7/1.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/fVffD4Pr/2.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/VS790qm9/3.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/MnSCKQ6K/4.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/5jm7qRb1/5.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/PCCSHfZr/6.jpg
I ask me where Bond and Swann are? it doesn't look like Matera anymore but I could be wrong

Referring to the third pic, I guess. That’s most likely Bond dropping her off at the train station.

The name is Walker by the way.

IG: @thebondarchives
Check it out, you won’t be disappointed ajb007/smile

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ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol   Sooooo Moneypenny in that white shirt with orange collar and blue pants is just SCREAMING Fred from Scooby Doo...     ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

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MFisher wrote:

ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol   Sooooo Moneypenny in that white shirt with orange collar and blue pants is just SCREAMING Fred from Scooby Doo...     ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

Now I can't un-see that!

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Now I can't un-see that!

  Thank you..  Thank you...  I will be performing here all month !  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol

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Noi wrote:

new production stills
https://i.postimg.cc/MnSCKQ6K/4.jpg

Safin in the forest? I would imagine this is before we see Bond run after the helicopter? Has Bond given up Madeleine and Q to Safin because Safin has the technology to save a dying Q?

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Someone wrote:
Noi wrote:

new production stills
https://i.postimg.cc/MnSCKQ6K/4.jpg

Safin in the forest? I would imagine this is before we see Bond run after the helicopter? Has Bond given up Madeleine and Q to Safin because Safin has the technology to save a dying Q?

Could it be the Garden of Death?

Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope

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https://i.postimg.cc/3dpZf0F7/1.jpg

Is it my imagination or is the left middle screen behind lovely Naomi Harris in Q's office a map of the Japan, Russia, Kuril islands area? Can anyone enhance a larger version of that pic?

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Mr Martini wrote:
Someone wrote:
Noi wrote:

new production stills
https://i.postimg.cc/MnSCKQ6K/4.jpg

Safin in the forest? I would imagine this is before we see Bond run after the helicopter? Has Bond given up Madeleine and Q to Safin because Safin has the technology to save a dying Q?

Could it be the Garden of Death?

I really doubt it. Pine forrests have next to no poisonous plants, insects or snakes. The climate is wrong. I they ever film the Garden of Death (I hope so!) they will prbably place it in a greenhouse or in a tropical climate.

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Someone wrote:

https://i.postimg.cc/3dpZf0F7/1.jpg

Is it my imagination or is the left middle screen behind lovely Naomi Harris in Q's office a map of the Japan, Russia, Kuril islands area? Can anyone enhance a larger version of that pic?

you mean the coastline we can only partially see behind her shoulder?
Hard to tell, if we assume black is land and grey is water, it looks a bit like the coast around Korea but if you compare in Google maps is  actually quite different in detail ...

The other map we can see quite clearly of Europe is black sea and grey land, and if we assume both maps would use the same colours (as they oughta) the bits of coastline behind Moneypenny's shoulder actually look almost the same as the shapes of the UK Scandinavia and Spain we can see in the other map. Maybe a slightly larger scale, but I think they're both maps of Europe.

If only that beautiful woman would step out of the way we could see the probably irrelevant map in the background more clearly!

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caractacus potts wrote:
Someone wrote:

https://i.postimg.cc/3dpZf0F7/1.jpg

Is it my imagination or is the left middle screen behind lovely Naomi Harris in Q's office a map of the Japan, Russia, Kuril islands area? Can anyone enhance a larger version of that pic?

you mean the coastline we can only partially see behind her shoulder?
Hard to tell, if we assume black is land and grey is water, it looks a bit like the coast around Korea but if you compare in Google maps is  actually quite different in detail ...

The other map we can see quite clearly of Europe is black sea and grey land, and if we assume both maps would use the same colours (as they oughta) the bits of coastline behind Moneypenny's shoulder actually look almost the same as the shapes of the UK Scandinavia and Spain we can see in the other map. Maybe a slightly larger scale, but I think they're both maps of Europe.

If only that beautiful woman would step out of the way we could see the probably irrelevant map in the background more clearly!

Nice analysis there, I think you're right. I wonder if it is Scandinavia and maybe Norway does get to be Norway in NTTD and not various other countries.

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Cary posted a story of Hans Zimmer working on the score on his Instagram:
https://twitter.com/NO_TIME_TO_DIE/stat … 5357260801

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Red_Snow wrote:

Cary posted a story of Hans Zimmer working on the score on his Instagram:
https://twitter.com/NO_TIME_TO_DIE/stat … 5357260801

The shot on screen kind of looks like Bond knocked back after the cemetery explosion and the sound effect they're going over is a ringing in the ears type thing. That's my take on it anyway.

@deanwdunlevy

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"and Spectre's 3rd act was about 20 mins long, from the Tangier base explosion until Bond walks away with Madeleine."

Only 20 minutes? Really? It seemed to drag on forever.

Also supports my theory that Bond died in the dentist's chair and the rest was just the fleeting dreams of a dying man.

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walther p99 wrote:
Red_Snow wrote:

Cary posted a story of Hans Zimmer working on the score on his Instagram:
https://twitter.com/NO_TIME_TO_DIE/stat … 5357260801

The shot on screen kind of looks like Bond knocked back after the cemetery explosion and the sound effect they're going over is a ringing in the ears type thing. That's my take on it anyway.

It looks to me like Fukunaga is filming Zimmer through the bottom of a glass. That sort of behaviour is a sure sign the meeting has been going on for too long and they should take a break  ajb007/lol