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MikeG77 wrote:
007JBDCMWR wrote:

Never seen so many of one watch on chrono24
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/omega/ref-21 … 1.htm#gref

Looks like the boutiques or AD's are dumping stock to the grey market seeing as only 6 of them are being sold by private sellers. So much for Omega and their artificial scarcity ajb007/rolleyes

Wow.  Looks like it'll be a buyer's market for a while then.

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Chriscoop wrote:
Paperbill wrote:

It's being replicated now so be careful.  Here is a pic of a Chinese Knock off
https://i.postimg.cc/7fy58S3Y/90154978-1842780022522696-9113447653198266368-o.jpg

Bloody hell that's quick! How the hell do they get tooled up to knock these out so damn fast? Bracelet looks semi decent on that photo too! Though it will no doubt fall to bits after a couple of wears.

I imagine its pretty easy seeing as the case dimensions are just like the SS version of the Seamaster. The bracelet is probably more difficult and more than likely not the same design as the original.

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MikeG77 wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:
Paperbill wrote:

It's being replicated now so be careful.  Here is a pic of a Chinese Knock off
https://i.postimg.cc/7fy58S3Y/90154978-1842780022522696-9113447653198266368-o.jpg

Bloody hell that's quick! How the hell do they get tooled up to knock these out so damn fast? Bracelet looks semi decent on that photo too! Though it will no doubt fall to bits after a couple of wears.

I imagine its pretty easy seeing as the case dimensions are just like the SS version of the Seamaster. The bracelet is probably more difficult and more than likely not the same design as the original.

The bracelet is a milenese mesh, which has been about for years so I guess they could have been making them with a friction catch for years, but the case is 42mm and also its thinner, the colours are unique. I guess the copies will just be a re-jigged 44mm smp? Available from a looky looky man near you.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Chriscoop wrote:
Paperbill wrote:

It's being replicated now so be careful.  Here is a pic of a Chinese Knock off
https://i.postimg.cc/7fy58S3Y/90154978-1842780022522696-9113447653198266368-o.jpg

Bloody hell that's quick! How the hell do they get tooled up to knock these out so damn fast? Bracelet looks semi decent on that photo too! Though it will no doubt fall to bits after a couple of wears.


The watch was just selling in Omega stores a well-known replica website already had it....and it looks great  ajb007/crap

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Looks great??

The replica in the pic is made of steel (and looks crap imo) I doubt that there are Ti replica out there.

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Higgins wrote:

Looks great??

The replica in the pic is made of steel (and looks crap imo) I doubt that there are Ti replica out there.

They're actually a lot closer than you think.

People will probably hate me for this, and I'm sorry, but I recently entered the world of replica/fake watches. Yes, a lot of the industry is deplorable, but I was looking for a NTTD watch to add to my Bond display and I didn't want to leave my pricey Omega out in the open—it's not for the purpose of wearing it and aiming to deceive people that it's the real deal. So, I bought one and here is it next to my genuine NTTD.

https://i.postimg.cc/PvXkvvqy/IMG-1656-copy.jpg

Case is titanium, weighs only 5 grams more than the gen case and overall looks pretty decent. Apparently there's a new version that makes the bezel numbers a little more accurate and apparently a titanium mesh bracelet (tapered, deployant clasp) to replace the steel one is a few months away.

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JTM wrote:
Higgins wrote:

Looks great??

The replica in the pic is made of steel (and looks crap imo) I doubt that there are Ti replica out there.

They're actually a lot closer than you think.

People will probably hate me for this, and I'm sorry, but I recently entered the world of replica/fake watches. Yes, a lot of the industry is deplorable, but I was looking for a NTTD watch to add to my Bond display and I didn't want to leave my pricey Omega out in the open—it's not for the purpose of wearing it and aiming to deceive people that it's the real deal. So, I bought one and here is it next to my genuine NTTD.

https://i.postimg.cc/PvXkvvqy/IMG-1656-copy.jpg

Case is titanium, weighs only 5 grams more than the gen case and overall looks pretty decent. Apparently there's a new version that makes the bezel numbers a little more accurate and apparently a titanium mesh bracelet (tapered, deployant clasp) to replace the steel one is a few months away.

Not that I have any knowledge of fake watches   but the fake in this picture looks to be a 44mm case, which is what I assumed from the earlier post as to how the copies have got to market so quickly.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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JTM wrote:
Higgins wrote:

Looks great??

The replica in the pic is made of steel (and looks crap imo) I doubt that there are Ti replica out there.

They're actually a lot closer than you think.

People will probably hate me for this, and I'm sorry, but I recently entered the world of replica/fake watches. Yes, a lot of the industry is deplorable, but I was looking for a NTTD watch to add to my Bond display and I didn't want to leave my pricey Omega out in the open—it's not for the purpose of wearing it and aiming to deceive people that it's the real deal. So, I bought one and here is it next to my genuine NTTD.

https://i.postimg.cc/PvXkvvqy/IMG-1656-copy.jpg

Case is titanium, weighs only 5 grams more than the gen case and overall looks pretty decent. Apparently there's a new version that makes the bezel numbers a little more accurate and apparently a titanium mesh bracelet (tapered, deployant clasp) to replace the steel one is a few months away.

Blimey. The indices look a little rougher, as does the strap, but otherwise it's hardly night and day is it? I'm surprised at the colour matches: so close.

The 007 logo even looks a bit better on the fake! ajb007/smile

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Chriscoop wrote:
JTM wrote:
Higgins wrote:

Looks great??

The replica in the pic is made of steel (and looks crap imo) I doubt that there are Ti replica out there.

They're actually a lot closer than you think.

People will probably hate me for this, and I'm sorry, but I recently entered the world of replica/fake watches. Yes, a lot of the industry is deplorable, but I was looking for a NTTD watch to add to my Bond display and I didn't want to leave my pricey Omega out in the open—it's not for the purpose of wearing it and aiming to deceive people that it's the real deal. So, I bought one and here is it next to my genuine NTTD.

https://i.postimg.cc/PvXkvvqy/IMG-1656-copy.jpg

Case is titanium, weighs only 5 grams more than the gen case and overall looks pretty decent. Apparently there's a new version that makes the bezel numbers a little more accurate and apparently a titanium mesh bracelet (tapered, deployant clasp) to replace the steel one is a few months away.

Not that I have any knowledge of fake watches   but the fake in this picture looks to be a 44mm case, which is what I assumed from the earlier post as to how the copies have got to market so quickly.

I don’t know about its thickness as I don’t own any callipers, but its case width is the same as the genuine one, 42mm. The photo is just a little deceptive—it’s certainly not 44mm.

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I really don‘t like the discussion of fakes here for various reasons.

First of all they are annoying to me.

Then there is always someone cheating others and pass them as the real deal*
Then these fakers are organized crime and I really don‘t want to support them in any kind of way.
And thirdly, EON is reading here and probably Omega, too.
AJB was shut down before because of copyright issues and I don‘t want to see this happening again.

There are tons of fake watch fora out there, there is no need to carry this topic to AJB.

Having said this, can you imagine Bond ( cinematic or novel) wearing/buying a fake watch and what would be his position about them?

* we have many new members for every new movie.
Many of them are starting cheap and those fake watches will end up then for sale - here or somewhere else - disclosed as fakes or not!
On eBay for example, you are not allowed selling fakes, so people will have to find other channels.

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FIRST TO DISCOVER substantial evidence that Chew Mee is in fact not totally nude in the TMWTGG pool scenes!

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Totally understood—end of discussion on my part then. My apologises for chiming in ajb007/smile

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I think it’s fine to talk about them, we’re not even discussing where to find them. Pretending they don’t exist is a little silly.

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Well nobody is pretending anything.

This thread is about the NTTD movie watch which is hardly a fake.

And the business of fake watches is highly criminal.
Producing and distributing those in China is illegal by law!

If emtiem feels the need to discuss fake watches on AJB, open a new thread and see if it‘s accepted by a mod.

President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
-------Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!------
FIRST TO DISCOVER substantial evidence that Chew Mee is in fact not totally nude in the TMWTGG pool scenes!

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If people weren't allowed to talk about things that were illegal then those true crime podcasts wouldn't be doing too well! ajb007/biggrin
I don't want one of those fakes, I know where the money is likely to be going and I know you can't even necessarily trust it not to fall to pieces or actually hurt you in some way, regardless I think it's interesting just how close a match they can get so quickly.

If Higgins doesn't want to talk about something he can just... not talk about it.

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I can easily understand that not everybody can or want to spend some money on several real watches like Omega or Rolex on this forum, so I can understand that a true Bond collector who wants to display the most related items from a 007 movie is encline to buy such a replica watch......it doesn't hurt me if it's only for display purposes......

But don't hijack the thread to the original one....

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Fakes are dodgy territory best avoided.  Has to be said that for the cost of some of the fake watches out there, you can get a legitimate and horologically significant piece from another brand.  Omega make some lovely watches, but so do many other more affordable brands.  I can understand the homage watches existence, especially as you can look at a tried and trusted design and tweak it to your own taste and have a flavour of the original with a different overall perspective.

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CharlesRobinson wrote:

Fakes are dodgy territory best avoided.  Has to be said that for the cost of some of the fake watches out there, you can get a legitimate and horologically significant piece from another brand.  Omega make some lovely watches, but so do many other more affordable brands.  I can understand the homage watches existence, especially as you can look at a tried and trusted design and tweak it to your own taste and have a flavour of the original with a different overall perspective.

Yeah homages are fine generally although some of them certainly step over into 'fake with a different name on' territory (although I haven't seen many of even those that get as close as JTM's watch), but you can get, as we saw on that Aqua Terra thread at the moment, decent brands who make something with the same flavour but not identical design.
I wonder if there have been any brands making homages with an eye towards the NTTD model? I haven't been looking and I guess it's a little early.

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emtiem wrote:

I wonder if there have been any brands making homages with an eye towards the NTTD model? I haven't been looking and I guess it's a little early.

You have to figure that the delay in the release of NTTD has given the legitimate homage makers (I'm thinking of Steinhart and others) a pretty big design and production window. It wouldn't surprise me if we see "inspired by" watches in the late fall.

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I’ve contacted a couple of my local’ish boutiques recently (Sydney and Melbourne) and have been told that they have the Ti Milanese bracelets on order, but they don’t have an eta on delivery. Price will be around $2000AUD. So if anyone’s considering picking one up at some point, they’ll definitely be available, just no idea when that will be. I haven’t asked about the nato being available separately.

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CharlesRobinson wrote:

Fakes are dodgy territory best avoided.

I quite agree. Fakes are treading (well, stamping all over really) on a company’s (protected) trademark.

Fakes are bad enough without the added possibility of someone then trying to pass it off as the real thing ajb007/crap

I do understand how someone might want one for display purposes - but it’s STILL illegal...surely it’s better to create your own ‘prop’ watch - I’m sure that’s what the films do.

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Sir Miles wrote:
CharlesRobinson wrote:

Fakes are dodgy territory best avoided.

I quite agree. Fakes are treading (well, stamping all over really) on a company’s (protected) trademark.

Fakes are bad enough without the added possibility of someone then trying to pass it off as the real thing ajb007/crap

I do understand how someone might want one for display purposes - but it’s STILL illegal...surely it’s better to create your own ‘prop’ watch - I’m sure that’s what the films do.

Yeah was it on this thread or another forum where someone had made his own display version just by having a printout for a dial, including hands? It actually looked pretty impressive! ajb007/biggrin

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emtiem Thank you, yes that was an unbranded seamaster that I added a printed dial with hands, new bezel insert and mesh strap.

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Quentin Quigley wrote:

emtiem Thank you, yes that was an unbranded seamaster that I added a printed dial with hands, new bezel insert and mesh strap.

Yeah that was great! ajb007/smile

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I brought up the fake as a warning only.  Be careful out there as the fakes are getting good.  I would never buy one!

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Sir Miles wrote:

Fakes are bad enough without the added possibility of someone then trying to pass it off as the real thing

Fakes are becoming an interesting grey area in Bond fandom. In common parlance, fakes are also referred to as reps / replicas. And, for all intents and purposes, what the likes of NPeal are producing in their homage collections are replicas (discounting their screen accurate, in house pieces that we see in the likes of NTTD of course). They're not the genuine item but approximate copies - thus replicas or even licensed fakes.

The same can be said of many of the replicas we all buy in to and are alerted to via sites like AJB - the only major difference are the labels. A piece from Magnoli isn't labelled Tom Ford, an Omega fake certainly is. But I do feel there's a danger that in bringing licensed replicas of clothing to market, Eon is encouraging people to be comfortable with fakes and replicas.