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Sizing:
I am receiving various queries on sizing.  I do need a European size from you from my chart above (not a US,UK size). The only advice I can provide is set out below, then you have to make a decision from this information on the European size you want to order.

The best way to arrive at your sizing is to measure a selection of your existing trousers, ideally chino style, across the waist lying flat, and then compare that to the actual waist measurements provided by MA in the chart. From there you can read off your most appropriate size (46, 48, 50... etc). This then is the size I need from you (ie a 46,48,50,52,54,56), not a US or UK size.

I’m afraid I have no more information than this, to help advise you, (and MA will not provide anymore help than this either). There is always some element of risk/ margin of error in both production (cutting and sewing both prone to some human margin of error) and also fit of a particular style.

Also to help with some qualitative assessment I ordered some WINCH2 Style trousers from Mr Porter website which I received today, the same style as for this order, but in a very different cloth fabric which can alter fit.

My actual measured waist is 33 inches (currently!). The measurements lying flat of Mr Porter order were in line with chart provided above.

Based on the trousers received, both 48 and 50 fit me - just a question of closeness of fit. I would need a belt with 50, none necessary for 48. I take 50 in TF suit trouser, a 48 in BC trousers and would normally wear a 32,33,34 in UK size depending on a particular manufacturers cut.

On the legs I would say fit is very similar to the Brunello SPECTRE trousers, if that helps anyone! Hard to compare with NTTD Tom Ford jeans as very different style, I was ideally a 32 straight, as the slim did not work for me at all, due to my calf size. No issue with WINCH2 with the calves though, on either 48 or 50 - though closer fitting than straight TF jeans.

Inside leg is a standard length on all sizes and most people will need to have bottoms tailored, unless you take a 34 inch inside leg or roll them!

I personally will order the 48, as prefer close fit AND I’m losing weight currently! The 50 would work equally as well, perhaps actually a bit more comfortable, and certainly for those with larger backsides, would likely work better!

Thanks. Hope this helps. I cannot offer any more advice to you than this, as our body shapes all differ, so ultimately you have to decide a size (European size please!) and there is always some risk to that!

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MikeG77 wrote:
casino_royale wrote:

What is the final price for the trousers?

In post #1 Cederic0011 mentioned "around €240" plus s/h.

€240 plus shipping - confirmed!

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For thin people:

MA will do a special size order, not in the table, of 44 (39.5cm waist measurement  lying flat), but only if we can get 3 orders...

We have 1 so far...

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1. Cederic0011
2. Cheverian
3. Tardis1711
4. Welshboy78
5. Sruzgar
6. MrEddy21
7. Vegasbond
8. walther p99
9. hthomas
10. CDP (x2 if it helps. Have bought MA before and never been disappointed)
11. SevenD
12. 007JBDCMWR
13. Tato007
14. Jared_nomak
15. Jared_nomak could take a 3rd pair if they required minimum numbers
16. THE WOWS
17. The Bond Experience- David Zaritsky
18. Casino_Royale
19. myself
20. Seven
21. Ten_hertog
22. Commandant
23. Westward_Drift (depending on certain sizing considerations)
24. BondClothing
25. MikeG77 (I'm in the same boat as Westward_Drift)
26. 00
27. James Boldman
28. Chriscollins007
29. Jar15a1
30. AugustWalker (also depending on sizing considerations)
31. Steve007
32. StiffassBrit
33. Danny Wilde
34. singhammer

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1. Cederic0011
2. Cheverian
3. Tardis1711
4. Welshboy78
5. Sruzgar
6. MrEddy21
7. Vegasbond
8. walther p99
9. hthomas
10. CDP (x2 if it helps. Have bought MA before and never been disappointed)
11. SevenD
12. 007JBDCMWR
13. Tato007
14. Jared_nomak
15. Jared_nomak could take a 3rd pair if they required minimum numbers
16. THE WOWS
17. The Bond Experience- David Zaritsky
18. Casino_Royale
19. myself
20. Seven
21. Ten_hertog
22. Commandant
23. Westward_Drift (depending on certain sizing considerations)
24. BondClothing
25. MikeG77 (I'm in the same boat as Westward_Drift)
26. 00
27. James Boldman
28. Chriscollins007
29. Jar15a1
30. AugustWalker (also depending on sizing considerations)
31. Steve007
32. StiffassBrit
33. Danny Wilde
34. singhammer
35. MrE

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cederic0011 wrote:

For thin people:

MA will do a special size order, not in the table, of 44 (39.5cm waist measurement  lying flat), but only if we can get 3 orders...

We have 1 so far...

I'd be interested in a size 44 as well.

1. Cederic0011
2. Cheverian
3. Tardis1711
4. Welshboy78
5. Sruzgar
6. MrEddy21
7. Vegasbond
8. walther p99
9. hthomas
10. CDP (x2 if it helps. Have bought MA before and never been disappointed)
11. SevenD
12. 007JBDCMWR
13. Tato007
14. Jared_nomak
15. Jared_nomak could take a 3rd pair if they required minimum numbers
16. THE WOWS
17. The Bond Experience- David Zaritsky
18. Casino_Royale
19. myself
20. Seven
21. Ten_hertog
22. Commandant
23. Westward_Drift (depending on certain sizing considerations)
24. BondClothing
25. MikeG77 (I'm in the same boat as Westward_Drift)
26. 00
27. James Boldman
28. Chriscollins007
29. Jar15a1
30. AugustWalker (also depending on sizing considerations)
31. Steve007
32. StiffassBrit
33. Danny Wilde
34. singhammer
35. MrE
36. JD_007

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Please PM your details to me as set out below / in post 45 by end of this Sunday night(October 6th). (please see post 45 for size chart)

1. AJB name
2. Full Name
3. Email address
4. Phone Number (with international dialling code)
5. Full Postal Address (inc country)
6. Number of pairs to be ordered
7. Size to be ordered

I had indicated the list would close last Friday night. You can still add yourself onto the long list across this weekend, but only please only do so, if you immediately PM with the requested details above. If I do not receive these details you will not be added to the order. No further orders will be taken, after Sunday night.

MA want to proceed with the order on Monday and its important for smoothness of this relationship that we achieve that.Thanks for your help on this!

Last edited by cederic0011 (5th Oct 2019 12:21)

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1. Cederic0011
2. Cheverian
3. Tardis1711
4. Welshboy78
5. Sruzgar
6. MrEddy21
7. Vegasbond
8. walther p99
9. hthomas
10. CDP (x2 if it helps. Have bought MA before and never been disappointed)
11. SevenD
12. 007JBDCMWR
13. Tato007
14. Jared_nomak
15. Jared_nomak could take a 3rd pair if they required minimum numbers
16. THE WOWS
17. The Bond Experience- David Zaritsky
18. Casino_Royale
19. myself
20. Seven
21. Ten_hertog
22. Commandant
23. Westward_Drift (depending on certain sizing considerations)
24. BondClothing
25. MikeG77 (I'm in the same boat as Westward_Drift)
26. 00
27. James Boldman
28. Chriscollins007
29. Jar15a1
30. AugustWalker (also depending on sizing considerations)
31. Steve007
32. StiffassBrit
33. Danny Wilde
34. singhammer
35. MrE
36. JD_007
37. Ferinstal

Thank you Cederic - PM on its way!

Yes. Considerably.

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cederic0011 wrote:

For thin people:

MA will do a special size order, not in the table, of 44 (39.5cm waist measurement  lying flat), but only if we can get 3 orders...

We have 1 so far...

I’d be interested in a 44 as well

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Thank you for arranging this, cederic0011.

I've been going over the sizing of my slim fit trousers, but without more sizing information related to the rise and hips of the MA cords I will have to reluctantly drop out.

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I too have to drop out. Thanks to cederic0011 for this effort but I just know that my buttocks will splt anything slim fit... ajb007/tongue

The name is Walker by the way.

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MA want details tomorrow from us. Thank you everyone who has already responded.

Understand its still early in the day in the US, but getting later here, so  list of people I am still awaiting info from is below (no problem in cancelling, but just PM me to let me know):

3. Tardis1711
5. Sruzgar
7. Vegasbond
10. CDP
14. Jared_nomak
15. Jared_nomak could take a 3rd pair if they required minimum numbers
22. Commandant
24. BondClothing
26. 00
31. Steve007
32. StiffassBrit
33. Danny Wilde
34. singhammer
35. MrE
36. JD_007

Thanks.

If you are not on this list then I have your details!

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1. Cederic0011
2. Cheverian
3. Tardis1711
4. Welshboy78
5. Sruzgar
6. MrEddy21
7. Vegasbond
8. walther p99
9. hthomas
10. CDP (x2 if it helps. Have bought MA before and never been disappointed)
11. SevenD
12. 007JBDCMWR
13. Tato007
14. Jared_nomak
15. Jared_nomak could take a 3rd pair if they required minimum numbers
16. THE WOWS
17. The Bond Experience- David Zaritsky
18. Casino_Royale
19. myself
20. Seven
21. Ten_hertog
22. Commandant
23. Westward_Drift (depending on certain sizing considerations)
24. BondClothing
25. MikeG77 (I'm in the same boat as Westward_Drift)
26. 00
27. James Boldman
28. Chriscollins007
29. Jar15a1
30. AugustWalker (also depending on sizing considerations)
31. Steve007
32. StiffassBrit
33. Danny Wilde
34. singhammer
35. MrE
36. JD_007
37. Ferinstal
38. gakgonen

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cederic0011 wrote:

MA want details tomorrow from us. Thank you everyone who has already responded.

Understand its still early in the day in the US, but getting later here, so  list of people I am still awaiting info from is below (no problem in cancelling, but just PM me to let me know):

3. Tardis1711
5. Sruzgar
7. Vegasbond
10. CDP
14. Jared_nomak
15. Jared_nomak could take a 3rd pair if they required minimum numbers
22. Commandant
24. BondClothing
26. 00
31. Steve007
32. StiffassBrit
33. Danny Wilde
34. singhammer
35. MrE
36. JD_007

Thanks.

If you are not on this list then I have your details!

PM sent cederic0011.

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cederic0011 wrote:

MA want details tomorrow from us. Thank you everyone who has already responded.

Understand its still early in the day in the US, but getting later here, so  list of people I am still awaiting info from is below (no problem in cancelling, but just PM me to let me know):

3. Tardis1711
5. Sruzgar
7. Vegasbond
10. CDP
14. Jared_nomak
15. Jared_nomak could take a 3rd pair if they required minimum numbers
22. Commandant
24. BondClothing
26. 00
31. Steve007
32. StiffassBrit
33. Danny Wilde
34. singhammer
35. MrE
36. JD_007

Thanks.

If you are not on this list then I have your details!

PM sent cederic0011.

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The list has now been circulated to MA.

An update on pricing, cost will be €240 for EU including shipping.

Pricing for USA  however, including shipping and all import duties paid is however $385. I appreciate this is beyond expectations in the US. Apologies for this emerging late in the day! The option to cancel still remains when order details are emailed to you (or alternatively find someone on forum in EU to bring them across to you).

I am still awaiting confirmation from the following on whether they want to still order which needs to occur fairly quickly now:

Tardis1711
Vegasbond
Jared_nomak
Commandant
Steve007

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cederic0011 wrote:

The list has now been circulated to MA.

An update on pricing, cost will be €240 for EU including shipping.

Pricing for USA  however, including shipping and all import duties paid is however $385. I appreciate this is beyond expectations in the US. Apologies for this emerging late in the day! The option to cancel still remains when order details are emailed to you (or alternatively find someone on forum in EU to bring them across to you).

I am still awaiting confirmation from the following on whether they want to still order which needs to occur fairly quickly now:

Tardis1711
Vegasbond
Jared_nomak
Commandant
Steve007

I was figuring $300 per pair with s/h but $385 seems a little high especially if the price includes vat/duties to the US which it shouldn't. I've emailed MA for clarification on this and once I have an update I'll post it here.

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I was also just emailed with the $385 price. A bit surprising so I also replied for price clarification. I was thinking the same price as you Mikeg77. Unfortunately, if that ends up being the true final price, I will have to bow out. Hoping for positive news though.

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MikeG77 wrote:
cederic0011 wrote:

The list has now been circulated to MA.

An update on pricing, cost will be €240 for EU including shipping.

Pricing for USA  however, including shipping and all import duties paid is however $385. I appreciate this is beyond expectations in the US. Apologies for this emerging late in the day! The option to cancel still remains when order details are emailed to you (or alternatively find someone on forum in EU to bring them across to you).

I am still awaiting confirmation from the following on whether they want to still order which needs to occur fairly quickly now:

Tardis1711
Vegasbond
Jared_nomak
Commandant
Steve007

I was figuring $300 per pair with s/h but $385 seems a little high especially if the price includes vat/duties to the US which it shouldn't. I've emailed MA for clarification on this and once I have an update I'll post it here.

Also, in the boat with those on the price difference waiting on clarification.

Buona fortuna, donna Lucia

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A little off topic (but not that far off) has Connolly said whether or not they will be reissuing the blue cotton/linen jacket?
I read somewhere that they only made 15 in total  ajb007/confused

Shouldn't be that hard to get 15 interested in a small run, just saying

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MrE wrote:

A little off topic (but not that far off) has Connolly said whether or not they will be reissuing the blue cotton/linen jacket?
I read somewhere that they only made 15 in total  ajb007/confused

Shouldn't be that hard to get 15 interested in a small run, just saying

If they reissuing this Jacket i’m in!

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Tato007 wrote:
MrE wrote:

A little off topic (but not that far off) has Connolly said whether or not they will be reissuing the blue cotton/linen jacket?
I read somewhere that they only made 15 in total  ajb007/confused

Shouldn't be that hard to get 15 interested in a small run, just saying

If they reissuing this Jacket i’m in!

I believe I read in the NTTD Wardrobe thread a while back that it was confirmed that Connolly will be bringing it back early next year.

Here we are: https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/959608/#p959608

Last edited by JTM (8th Oct 2019 08:11)

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Just received an update from MA and the $385 price with s/h, duties/taxes in fact correct for US customers and is only for 1 pair of pants ajb007/crap

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I've got one word for US customers: Skypax

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yikes....

MikeG77 wrote:

Just received an update from MA and the $385 price with s/h, duties/taxes in fact correct for US customers and is only for 1 pair of pants ajb007/crap

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