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Topic: NTTD the longest Bond ever.

It's reported that No Time To Die will have a run time of 163 minutes making it the longest Bond film, is this too long for a Bond film, I worry that it may be too heavily laden and plumped up, a film has to be majorly engaging to keep people's attention for nearly 3 hours.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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The more Bond the better!

These days I struggle to watch a film for 2 hours straight, but seeing a brand new Bond film the first few times shouldn't be too much effort. My only issue is making sure I go to the toilet at different times with each viewing.

Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.

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If it has a good enough story, the  time
Should fly by. The only downside for the
Producers, is that longer films can't  have
As many screenings  per day, so  could
Effect the final box office takings.

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That's a good point TP, especially once you add in the adverts, trailers and info films the come before the actual film.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Think that rhythm is a very relevant aspect.

"Surround yourself with human beings, they are easier to fight for than principles.”

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This is how they guarantee Bond fans will see it twice. We will want to go back to see the part we missed on the first viewing when we got up to pee.

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Thunderpussy wrote:

If it has a good enough story, the  time
Should fly by. The only downside for the
Producers, is that longer films can't  have
As many screenings  per day, so  could
Effect the final box office takings.

Before we had mutliplex theaters, long run times were an issue, but I think not as much now. I love long movies, more time away from the real world, but taxing on my bladder like that really long Avengers movie!

"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....

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Matt S wrote:

This is how they guarantee Bond fans will see it twice. We will want to go back to see the part we missed on the first viewing when we got up to pee.

Or parts.  ajb007/crap

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I think whether I like it or not will depend which kind of content is the reason for the long runtime (I've largely been avoiding spoilers so far, aside from the wardrobe department   ajb007/bond ). While Bond films inevitably need a lot of good action scenes, what I'd really like to see are some more scenes which show Bond as a person. Like his apartment in Spectre, or seemingly "unnecessary" scenes, like when he is travelling, etc. Fleming always described these things in detail, food, hotels, restaurants, his thoughts while on an airplane, conversations with contacts, etc. There needs to be a balance between those and the action. CR was quite good in this regard, I think.

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"- That is something to be afraid of."

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I don't know why intermissions went out of style.
Theatres make their profits off popcorn sales, surely they can make themselves much more money per showing if they give the audience a 15 minute break to restock at the snackstand.
Maybe enough to balance out the extra screening they can't have each evening because the movie is so long.

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I'm not so sure and extremely long Bond film is a good thing. I think the last two films could have easily lost 10 minutes or more. Although SKYFALL is popular I do feel it could have been tightened up a bit. SPECTRE seemed too long to me once we got that DEAD ARE ALIVE card after the gunbarrel.
Let's hope Cary has been able to pace the film and keep the storyline enthralling.
I miss the days when OHMSS was the longest Bond film. I liked that particular movie having the honor of holding that record.

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by the way, I finally figured out during one of the recent STAR WARS movies:
the ideal moment to take a pee-break is not after the big action sequence is over, but just when the big action sequence is starting.

There's actually nothing essential to the story that ever happens during these sequences.
But as soon as the overlong action sequence finally ends, there will be maybe maybe two minutes of character development or exposition (more likely exposition), then it's back to the explosions.
During that STAR WARS movie, just as I got to the exit, I realised two villains were actually explaining the plot to each other! (then Dark Helmet turned to the camera, and said "Got that?")

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Chriscoop wrote:

It's reported that No Time To Die will have a run time of 163 minutes making it the longest Bond film, is this too long for a Bond film, I worry that it may be too heavily laden and plumped up, a film has to be majorly engaging to keep people's attention for nearly 3 hours.

I remain of the opinion that approximately two hours is the ideal running time for a Bond film and when the films run significantly longer than that it is never a good thing. I think even excellent films like OHMSS and CR could do with being a little bit shorter, and Spectre could do with being a LOT shorter.

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Golrush007 wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:

It's reported that No Time To Die will have a run time of 163 minutes making it the longest Bond film, is this too long for a Bond film, I worry that it may be too heavily laden and plumped up, a film has to be majorly engaging to keep people's attention for nearly 3 hours.

I remain of the opinion that approximately two hours is the ideal running time for a Bond film and when the films run significantly longer than that it is never a good thing. I think even excellent films like OHMSS and CR could do with being a little bit shorter, and Spectre could do with being a LOT shorter.

Before spectre I would have been rejoicing for a longer Bond, I was dissapointed both CR and QoS ended but SP went on too long and seemed overblown and a touch contrived

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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At 163min it's only 3min longer than Spectre I believe. Not to say that isn't already too long but this isn't a massive difference we're talking about.

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Visceral007 wrote:

At 163min it's only 3min longer than Spectre I believe. Not to say that isn't already too long but this isn't a massive difference we're talking about.

SPECTRE's run time was 2h 28min, or 148 minutes.

NTTD is 163 minutes, or 2h 43min.

That is a 15 minute difference.

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I've always felt the ending to Spectre
Was a little rushed. The extra 15 minutes
Would have helped.

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Matt S wrote:

We will want to go back to see the part we missed on the first viewing when we got up to pee.

Unless you have a dodgy prostate it should be ok  ajb007/lol  .... eat lots of salty snacks and don't drink anything at least an hour before hand, it'll all be good  ajb007/crap   ajb007/lol

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Thunderpussy wrote:

I've always felt the ending to Spectre
Was a little rushed. The extra 15 minutes
Would have helped.

I don't know TP? I think Spectre could have ended in the desert better, and made more of Blofelds lair and the hugely expensive biggest ever cinematic explosion ever. With the job done Bond and Swann could have hopped into Blofelds rolls Royce with Bond saying something like "I know a great restaurant in Tangiers, we could just make dinner"
The London scenes just seemed lumped on and a tad superfluous to me.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Personally speaking, if the run time is longer because NTTD is filled with sweeping scene setting scenic shots and some lingering personal Bond moments I'll be happy, but if we get a 10 minute dialogue heavy Blofield scene explaining why his life's work and all Bonds adventure are because of his childhood jealousy i will be majorly dissapointed.

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Chriscoop wrote:

Personally speaking, if the run time is longer because NTTD is filled with sweeping scene setting scenic shots and some lingering personal Bond moments I'll be happy, but if we get a 10 minute dialogue heavy Blofield scene explaining why his life's work and all Bonds adventure are because of his childhood jealousy i will be majorly dissapointed.

I just hope a minute of that long run time is Blofeld saying “Ohh and Jimmy, you know that whole brother thing? Yeah I was just kidding about that. Like you or anyone else even believed that crazy story right? No hard feelings.”

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JTM wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:

Personally speaking, if the run time is longer because NTTD is filled with sweeping scene setting scenic shots and some lingering personal Bond moments I'll be happy, but if we get a 10 minute dialogue heavy Blofield scene explaining why his life's work and all Bonds adventure are because of his childhood jealousy i will be majorly dissapointed.

I just hope a minute of that long run time is Blofeld saying “Ohh and Jimmy, you know that whole brother thing? Yeah I was just kidding about that. Like you or anyone else even believed that crazy story right? No hard feelings.”

Realistically, how could dialogue correct things? Bond saw him and recognised him as Oberhauser, a boy he grew up with. This isn't Blofeld just telling Bond that he's his brother.

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JTM wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:

Personally speaking, if the run time is longer because NTTD is filled with sweeping scene setting scenic shots and some lingering personal Bond moments I'll be happy, but if we get a 10 minute dialogue heavy Blofield scene explaining why his life's work and all Bonds adventure are because of his childhood jealousy i will be majorly dissapointed.

I just hope a minute of that long run time is Blofeld saying “Ohh and Jimmy, you know that whole brother thing? Yeah I was just kidding about that. Like you or anyone else even believed that crazy story right? No hard feelings.”

ajb007/lol  ajb007/lol  ajb007/martini

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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Matt S wrote:
JTM wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:

Personally speaking, if the run time is longer because NTTD is filled with sweeping scene setting scenic shots and some lingering personal Bond moments I'll be happy, but if we get a 10 minute dialogue heavy Blofield scene explaining why his life's work and all Bonds adventure are because of his childhood jealousy i will be majorly dissapointed.

I just hope a minute of that long run time is Blofeld saying “Ohh and Jimmy, you know that whole brother thing? Yeah I was just kidding about that. Like you or anyone else even believed that crazy story right? No hard feelings.”

Realistically, how could dialogue correct things? Bond saw him and recognised him as Oberhauser, a boy he grew up with. This isn't Blofeld just telling Bond that he's his brother.

Well that part can't be unsaid, or undone, but Blofield could goad Bond by confessing that he in reality had nothing to do with Vesper or Ms death or Silva and it was just a minf game and "It worked James, you believed every word, that's how easily I get in your head"
To which Bond replies
"perhaps once, but you will die looking at these bars and I won't give you a second thought when I go and lay flowers on your mother and fathers grave! Goodbye Ernst, I wont be seeing you around"

It was either that.....or the priesthood

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In my opinion everyone should pretend Brothergate never happened and never talk about it, and that includes the characters in the films.