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No doubt, November suddenly looks uncertain even when it's still far....maybe a sudden decline of the Virus might help, before a Vaccine is developed. Am still hopeful for November though.

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Matt S wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:

I'm starting to doubt November will still be the release date, this whole coronavirus pandemic is so uncertain with countries still only speculating what a lockdown exit looks like. If somewhere like the US still has restrictions on public gatherings would they still release the movie? I mean in the whole context of things this isn't at all on the list of important things.

I think they're going to wait until September to see if it's worth starting to market the film again. If necessary, they might decide then whether to delay it further or release it at home. It depends on how quickly they need the cash.

Agreed. I just can’t see it happening in theaters in November. Maybe they’ll use the release date to make it available to stream (if, as you say, they need the money).

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Miles Messervy wrote:
Matt S wrote:
Chriscoop wrote:

I'm starting to doubt November will still be the release date, this whole coronavirus pandemic is so uncertain with countries still only speculating what a lockdown exit looks like. If somewhere like the US still has restrictions on public gatherings would they still release the movie? I mean in the whole context of things this isn't at all on the list of important things.

I think they're going to wait until September to see if it's worth starting to market the film again. If necessary, they might decide then whether to delay it further or release it at home. It depends on how quickly they need the cash.

Agreed. I just can’t see it happening in theaters in November. Maybe they’ll use the release date to make it available to stream (if, as you say, they need the money).

I've gotten out of the prediction business, but I would imagine that an additional challenge NTTD faces is that it will have been 5 years since SP. Plus the marketing machine already ramped up once for NTTD. I can see films like The Batman and the next Fast and Furious being shelved with no damage to their eventual box office. But it seems like Craig's last hurrah could lose some of its luster the farther into the future it drifts. Lots of people were already more interested in a new Bond being cast, after all.

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Cheverian wrote:
Miles Messervy wrote:
Matt S wrote:

I think they're going to wait until September to see if it's worth starting to market the film again. If necessary, they might decide then whether to delay it further or release it at home. It depends on how quickly they need the cash.

Agreed. I just can’t see it happening in theaters in November. Maybe they’ll use the release date to make it available to stream (if, as you say, they need the money).

I've gotten out of the prediction business, but I would imagine that an additional challenge NTTD faces is that it will have been 5 years since SP. Plus the marketing machine already ramped up once for NTTD. I can see films like The Batman and the next Fast and Furious being shelved with no damage to their eventual box office. But it seems like Craig's last hurrah could lose some of its luster the farther into the future it drifts. Lots of people were already more interested in a new Bond being cast, after all.

Spectre did quite well despite countless people expecting Idris Elba to be Bond or hoping for someone else in the role. Craig has been Bond for so long that people have forgotten that there have been others in the role. No other Bond has been loved as much since Sean Connery (though I don't speak for myself here). The biggest problem is the money wasted on preparing for an April opening.

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I don't think they'll release NTTD while the cinemas are closed in most of Europe and North America. I think it'ds a long time until Africa and latin America are finished with the worst of Corona, so the quesion is if they'll wait for them. That would work a few decades ago, but now it's worse.

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It seems to me only time will tell, since the virus has affected some places harder than others. Still November is far enough along that the virus might be better contained by then.

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The problem is not only the containment of the virus in every major marketplace for the movie but also the distancing measures those markets may have to endure, there are no certainties at all, and it has been reported a few times that places like pubs, restaurants, theatres and cinemas will have to operate at a fraction of their overall capacity. Also how many people will want to go and sit in a sealed room to watch it?
The other issue the NTTD has is piracy, if they release in some countries that can show it, it will soon be copied and illegally distributed around the world eating even further into Eons takings, illegal streaming of copies is bad enough as it is, doing it on the back of half filled cinemas with some countries still unable to show the film legally will just fuel such things.
Of course we all hope everything is back to normal by then watch this space I guess.

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I have almost zero hope that the Premiere in November will happen.

Eon would be well advised issuing NTTD on a digital platform and as long as most parts of the western world is still asked to stay at home.

Holding the movie month after month will also cost them a lot of $$, not counting the losses for their sponsor partners.

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Higgins wrote:

I have almost zero hope that the Premiere in November will happen.

Eon would be well advised issuing NTTD on a digital platform and as long as most parts of the western world is still asked to stay at home.

Holding the movie month after month will also cost them a lot of $$, not counting the losses for their sponsor partners.

I doubt we'll be seeing the film in November. I think this may lead to a much longer delay for BOND 26 as well.
That said, I'd be  fine if NTTD were released digitally/ VOD.

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Drop it digitally I say.  ajb007/martini

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But Nolan seems to think he'll be able to release Tenet in July.

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Higgins wrote:

I have almost zero hope that the Premiere in November will happen.

Eon would be well advised issuing NTTD on a digital platform and as long as most parts of the western world is still asked to stay at home.

Holding the movie month after month will also cost them a lot of $$, not counting the losses for their sponsor partners.

I’ve been saying this for weeks. It’s the only option that makes any sense given the uncertainty around the virus and the amount of interest they must surely be paying as the film is held back. My guess is once one of the studios releases a big tent poll digitally, the floodgates will open and the rest start to follow suit.

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Miles Messervy wrote:
Higgins wrote:

I have almost zero hope that the Premiere in November will happen.

Eon would be well advised issuing NTTD on a digital platform and as long as most parts of the western world is still asked to stay at home.

Holding the movie month after month will also cost them a lot of $$, not counting the losses for their sponsor partners.

I’ve been saying this for weeks. It’s the only option that makes any sense given the uncertainty around the virus and the amount of interest they must surely be paying as the film is held back. My guess is once one of the studios releases a big tent poll digitally, the floodgates will open and the rest start to follow suit.

You both may well be proven right. Those floodgates you refer to is exactly the reason that the theater chains are starting to take a stand (ie AMC and now some other chains basically saying they will boycott playing any Universal product once they reopen).
There's much at play here and obviously when the theaters can actually reopen is really the wildcard in all this. As far as the film's finances are concerned, yes they have taken a sharp financial hit with the promotion of the film, but we don't know what re-negotiations have or have not occurred since this pandemic with the film's creditors and/or other financial interests such as insurers, etc. From a purely personal standpoint, I so strongly prefer to see NTTD in proper theater, that I would rather wait until April 2021  than settle for seeing it digitally at home....but that's just me.

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The theaters will be so crippled by the time they are open that they will have no leverage to "refuse" a studio's product.

As states lift the stay-at-home order, studios must either open or be classified as voluntary closings, which exempts them from things like rent relief and other financial protections.

So they are opening, because they're essentially being forced to, and they're enacting TSA-like screening measures (https://www.indiewire.com/2020/05/texas … 202228918/), taking people's temperatures, refusing admission to anyone with a fever, and implementing a 25% occupancy cap. And why? So they can screen movies like The Goonies and American Sniper for $5 - a ticket price that is essentially a third of what they were charging two months ago.

Once they're on the other side of that experiment, any and all of these theaters - the ones that are left - will be BEGGING Universal to show the new Bond or Fast & Furious movie.

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HalfMonk HalfHitman wrote:

The theaters will be so crippled by the time they are open that they will have no leverage to "refuse" a studio's product.

As states lift the stay-at-home order, studios must either open or be classified as voluntary closings, which exempts them from things like rent relief and other financial protections.

Yes..but if people can watch the film at home then the theatres will be closed anyway ajb007/insane and THAT will have a knock on effect on bars and restaurants  ajb007/amazed

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I don't think theaters are going away. I just think that theaters in November (or in 2021) will be in no position to tell a studio that they aren't running their films. Universal isn't about to drop NTTD on VOD if theaters are an option; I do think theaters are ultimately looking at (and trying to push back against) shorter exclusivity windows.

Someone said "theater is the new vinyl" and there will probably, ultimately be some truth to that. Big, special events for folks who will pay a premium for the experience. Ticket prices will go up, and the only folks willing to spend that money will demand a premium experience in return. Another reason for these big box hovels to get their houses in order.

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I suppose we won’t know until we know, but I’d say we’ll have a very good sense by July as to whether the film can be released in theaters in November. If there’s a big spike once strict social distancing is relaxed, and there’s still no effective therapeutic treatment, I see no chance of a November theatrical release. At that point, EON and Universal will have a tough decision to make. And they may live to regret not making the bold choice to release the film digitally while most of the world was trapped at home. I think they could’ve made a killing with an April release.

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Reportedly, theatres are to remain closed in London until 2021.

Wonder if this is the start of more news to come that means NTTD will be delayed until next year/released digitally.

https://www.timeout.com/london/news/the … 1588674779

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CRC007 wrote:

Reportedly, theatres are to remain closed in London until 2021.

Wonder if this is the start of more news to come that means NTTD will be delayed until next year/released digitally.

https://www.timeout.com/london/news/the … 1588674779

He was referring to live theater not movie theaters. Live theater will need more time to rehearse, stage, etc while there are plenty of finished films just waiting for release. That all being said, NTTD could certainly still be delayed beyond 11/20.

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CRC007 wrote:

Reportedly, theatres are to remain closed in London until 2021.

Wonder if this is the start of more news to come that means NTTD will be delayed until next year/released digitally.

https://www.timeout.com/london/news/the … 1588674779

Theatres show plays, cinemas show films. That doesn't mean that cinemas won't stay closed a very long time.

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Yes they aren't quite the same industry. It's just the start of a trend within the entertainment industry as a whole. If they don't intend to open until next year I was wondering if cinema will go the same way

Much more difficult to show live theatre so probably more hope for showing films.

Either way I think we are due yet another delay unfortunately

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Theatre is used to barely making profit; movie studios don't quite operate on the same model...

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Cinemas in China are opening again. I don't think NTTD will get a premiere until also north American and European cinemas also open.

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Number24 wrote:

Cinemas in China are opening again. I don't think NTTD will get a premiere until also north American and European cinemas also open.

Agreed.

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The studio is in a real pickle.  They took a long time, too long, to make this one -- who knows what the real costs were against how they financed the film.  They were counting on selling this as the last Craig film, and as such, bringing in a wide audience of ticket buyers.  But, of course, C19 shelved that.

Postponing to November interrupted the marketing push.  While it's possible the anticipation will build even more over the following nine months -- resulting in even greater ticket sales -- it's also highly likely there will be another C19 outbreak right around the time the film is set to be released.  The world may go into lockdown again.

The studio could try selling the film directly to audiences at home, but their fear -- and I think it's a very real one -- is that this won't translate into the same revenue.  Even if they charge $20 to rent it, there could be eight people watching the same viewing, or $80 in ticket sales forfeited and $60 lost (whatever their take of that might be), not including the inevitable piracy. 

If they hadn't piddled around and taken so long to make this one, it could have been out last year or earlier, already recouped its costs, and be a hit all over again for home viewers renting it out of boredom.  They could have really cashed in.  But then this group has never seen being expeditious as important to their bottom line.  So here we are.

It does make me wonder, though, if they might convince Craig to make one more if this one doesn't do as well.  They'll need to recoup lost profits somehow, and coaxing Craig back for one more bigger and no-punches-pulled outing might be the way to do it.  If they find a new Bond, they'll need that film to do the same, but that's riskier with an unknown property.  Either way, their fumbling could be fans' benefit.